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PhazonLink posted:Ah so Donnie wants to gently caress a female himself. Hey, the Narcissus from which Narcissistic Personality Disorder takes its name is the myth of a dude so incredibly vain that he falls desperately in love with his own reflection to the point of wasting away to nothing, so, welp. If the shoe fits. (Yes, I know I should have put Leonardo in front of Da Vinci, I was being lazy because it's obvious who I'm referring to.) edit: 
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Krispy Kareem posted:Your favorite child is usually the one who looks most like your spouse because they have qualities that attracted to you to them, even if it's only subconsciously and not sexual in nature. I mean that's not really surprising. It's been well established that Trump is a narcissist. So obviously, his second favorite person would be his closest match.
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Steve King's opponent, Kim Weaver, dropped out of the race (primarily because of death threats apparently); he'll be running unopposed until she gets replaced.
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skylined! posted:the of vinci code There are many phenomenally dumb things in those books.
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poo poo, the London incident's a terrorist attack. And apparently more are popping up as we speak, 3 reported incidents according to CNN.
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mynnna posted:...I'm going to be uncharacteristically fair here and point out that a lot of people don't even have a loving clue how the economy works in a basic sense, so it is that much easier for them to believe "spending bad!" Sit someone down and walk them through the basic cycle & how demand is the driving factor and it helps. Government spending can boost the economy, but if they're doing it through increased debt then it can crowd out private borrowing. The system has been broken recently with really low interest rates and lots of overseas money running to Treasury bonds. If that changes then deficit spending will strangle non-public expansion. So government stimulus is good until it's not.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Businesses don't spend when they're uncertain about the future. The clusterfuck that was 2007 scared a lot of companies into more of the Japanese model (save, save, save) and away from the US model of being so leveraged you can't even make payroll if someone hiccups. But at some point all that extra money becomes ridiculous and needs to go somewhere. Also the Japanese model sucks if taken too far. http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/26/what-happened-the-last-time-companies-got-a-break-on-overseas-profits.html quote:Contrary to the intent, the benefits skewed toward a select few companies in a select few industries. Rather than use the money for hiring and capital purchases, companies plowed the cash into share buybacks and dividends, and many of the biggest beneficiaries actually cut American jobs in the years after the repatriation. and https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970203633104576623771022129888 quote:The 15 companies that benefited the most from a 2004 tax break for the return of their overseas profits cut more than 20,000 net jobs and decreased the pace of their research spending, according to report from the Democratic staff of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations released Monday night. So no, a tax holiday is not going to keep the economy "humming along", it's not going to increase research funding, and the only argument you could make is that it makes Wall Street happy which is an incredibly poor indicator for the overall health of the economy. What you're talking about has been tried, and it failed. Zombie conservative economic theories aren't going to save us. Aves Maria! fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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skylined! posted:the of vinci code When I was in college there was an error with the school-provided basic tv service where for an entire weekend one of the channels played a loop of pay-per-view ads from whatever cable company subcontracted our tv service, and the one I still remember was a porn parody entitled 'Da Vagina Code.
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I wish I haven't read up on this park on intraweb wikipedia posted:Donald Trump, for whom the park was named, purchased the property for $2 million in the 1990s, and donated it in 2006.[1][2] Trump donated the land after he was unable to gain town approvals to develop a private golf course on the property.[3] At the time of its donation, Trump claimed the parcel was worth $100 million, and he used the donation as a tax write-off.[4] Motherfucker can we burn the Trump tower?
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Krispy Kareem posted:Government spending can boost the economy, but if they're doing it through increased debt then it can crowd out private borrowing. Sure, but if you're trying to dig someone out of their ignorance, start with the basics. If you can get them to come around, then you can elaborate. Heck, they might just ask you to elaborate, since if they're not completely braindead or stubbornly dug-in on their thinking they might just ask you the "okay but what if demand is healthy?" question.
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Aves Maria! posted:http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/26/what-happened-the-last-time-companies-got-a-break-on-overseas-profits.html Stock buybacks would keep the economic expansion going. It's not necessarily a great way to do it, but it would have a short-term positive effect. It's difficult to predict because the Great Recession and the government's response to it has kind of broken how some of this stuff is supposed to work. If you look at domestic companies like Comcast and AT&T, they've been very active in spending their money and expansion. It makes sense for multinationals to do the same once extra capital is freed up. But people who say otherwise make sense too.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Stock buybacks would keep the economic expansion going. It's not necessarily a great way to do it, but it would have a short-term positive effect. I mean, you can believe what you want but I have yet to see a credible report that says that a tax holiday would result in anything other than lost government revenue and a negligible net effect on economic growth. We'd be better off doing literally anything else that isn't just a supply-side abstraction. And those things could possibly create a buffer for an economic downturn while a tax holiday would not.
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Captain Invictus posted:poo poo, the London incident's a terrorist attack. And apparently more are popping up as we speak, 3 reported incidents according to CNN. Oh man, can't wait to find out these people were tied to the Manchester attacker and they decided to speed up their schedules when that info got leaked to the press.
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whatever7 posted:I wish I haven't read up on this park on intraweb Seriously. Was there any development done on the plot? Did he get lucky and have a plot somewhere where there was development? I mean -$100 million on your income sounds pretty sweet, you'd get at least like $10 million from taxes you wouldn't have to pay right? Unless I don't understand it. Edit: apparently the property is filled with crumbling buildings and some have asbestos problems (which stopped development of a dog park). quote:An attempt to convert a portion of the park's French Hill section for use as a dog park in 2010 revealed that at least one of the park's abandoned buildings contained asbestos.[7] By 2012, the planned dog park remained on hold due to difficulties raising funds for fences and asbestos abatement.[8] Eeyo fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:most of the votes were in before that happened and the race was way closer than it had any right to be. Close losses to the GOP are really going to turn into a huge amount of political capital.
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Bitch rear end made a tweet. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871143765473406976 It's a bitch rear end tweet.
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Ice Phisherman posted:The base is already galvanized. They'll have a hard time galvanizing it any more. With total control of the government comes total responsibility. Their arguments will sound incredibly hollow when they can just pass whatever the hell they want. You clearly do not understand the depth of the right wing delusion. Their current arguments are hollow, they still make them, and he still has basically full republican approval.
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Office Pig posted:Bitch rear end made a tweet. https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/871144729760722944
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Eeyo posted:Seriously. Was there any development done on the plot? Did he get lucky and have a plot somewhere where there was development? There's a big loophole in the tax system where you can allege the value of a property based on what you could develop there; without having to actually develop it. The $100 million figure was probably based on some exaggerated vision of a casino / golf course / hotel empire that hypothetically could have been built. It's tax fraud but the government doesn't fight back very hard about it. The real estate industry is filled with huckster poo poo like this.
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I really wish NBC news used the #fakenews hashtag when not quoting the President.
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Triskelli posted:I hope he does blame the Republican Congress for not being able to pass a bloated reconciliation bill with 51% of the vote. That's not even economics, it's Civics 102. Then the optics shift to the RINOs. Republican support will never falter. It is beyond delusion.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Stock buybacks would keep the economic expansion going. It's not necessarily a great way to do it, but it would have a short-term positive effect. Stock buybacks do nothing for the economy. All they do is artificially increase stock price by restricting supply. That is why they were illegal for a long time.
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Chilichimp posted:Then the optics shift to the RINOs. Republican support will never falter. It is beyond delusion. As a friend of mine in Texas once said, Dems are only winning back Texas one grave at a time. To be clear, implying the Olds dying off is the only hope for Texas ever freeing itself from the disease.
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Covok posted:As a friend of mine in Texas once said, Dems are only winning back Texas one grave at a time. To be clear, implying the Olds dying off is the only hope for Texas ever freeing itself from the disease. There's plenty of young Republicans in Texas. It's such a culturally Republican place that voting for another party is nearly unthinkable.
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:Big Business would be a good rapper name. We have a Biz Markie and a Notorious B.I.G.
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Covok posted:As a friend of mine in Texas once said, Dems are only winning back Texas one grave at a time. To be clear, implying the Olds dying off is the only hope for Texas ever freeing itself from the disease. People itt keep posting all this gotcha poo poo, "if republicans do this, then they are failures and lose big in the midterm", never once realizing that right wing voters are not rational actors.
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Kaal posted:There's a big loophole in the tax system where you can allege the value of a property based on what you could develop there; without having to actually develop it. The $100 million figure was probably based on some exaggerated vision of a casino / golf course / hotel empire that hypothetically could have been built. It's tax fraud but the government doesn't fight back very hard about it. The real estate industry is filled with huckster poo poo like this. Yep. The new hot thing is to encumber your property with restrictions that would apply to anyone who might buy it if you close shop and leave and then fight to have you property declared essentially worthless for property tax purposes because nobody would be interested in building anything there under those terms. It is called the "dark store" strategy as it is especially popular with big box retailers. Shifty Pony fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Office Pig posted:Bitch rear end made a tweet. Will he care when the killers are discovered to be born citizens of the U.K.? Or is he compromising an active investigation by using intelligence info to confirm that they are immigrants?
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BarbarianElephant posted:There's plenty of young Republicans in Texas. It's such a culturally Republican place that voting for another party is nearly unthinkable. Texas has (mostly) always been a single-party state as well, just flipping to Republican when the GOP became the party of white, Southern land-owning millionaires. (Who the non-land-owning, non-millionaire whites aspire to be.) BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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business hammocks posted:Will he care when the killers are discovered to be born citizens of the U.K.? Or is he compromising an active investigation by using intelligence info to confirm that they are immigrants? He retweeted loving Drudge.
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The only hope concerning right wing voters is they get depressed and stay home. Or die of natural causes and Republican policies. You don't fix the problem of 30-40% of the voters being human garbage. They just are. You can flip the millions of pure idiots who voted Obama in 2008 or 2012 but chose Trump in 2016. And you can turn out everyone else.
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Office Pig posted:Bitch rear end made a tweet. Wasting no time trying to exploit a tragedy for political gain, I see.
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Xae posted:Stock buybacks do nothing for the economy. Right now all we're talking about is how long the expansion will go on. It's already like the 2nd or 3rd longest. Increasing share prices gives the perception of a stronger economy and can gloss over other problems. Perception counts for a lot. Enough that people may someday refer to Trump's term in the same way they talk about the Clinton years. There's even a remote chance Trump leaves office in 2021 and the economy goes into recession 6 months later under a Democrat.
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How do I explain to people that "but the stock market is up!!!" actually doesn't mean poo poo when they use it as a rebuttal to every possible economic concern.
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Chilichimp posted:You clearly do not understand the depth of the right wing delusion. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-base-is-shrinking/ Not really. His base is shrinking. They're still republicans, but they're not buying everything he or the republican party are selling. The metrics you see are on a three point scale. They haven't been moving much. 1. Approve. 2. Neither approve nor disapprove. 3. Disapprove. The metrics you see on a five point scale reveal more data. 1. Strongly approve. 2. Approve. 3. Neither approve nor disapprove. 4. Disapprove. 5. Strongly disapprove. Trump's numbers for strongly approve have been shrinking. As of the article it went from around 30% to 21-22%. It also doesn't steadily decline, but sharply declines as the result of policy decisions he's made that displease his base. Most notably the terrible health care laws that they tried to pass. This shows a downwards trend that you otherwise miss on a three point scale. Republican voters are also responding to real events that effect them. In short he's going to have to please his base somehow and that means delivering on his promises. However he has a tough time of doing that. Also his first crisis is going to roast him whether it's economic, military, social or environmental. His administration is amazingly unprepared to respond to crises because they're dealing with self-inflicted wounds, can't attract talent and have little interest in staffing critical positions. The image of a strongman candidate only works so long as they never look weak. His first crisis is going to show Americans whether he's prepared to deal with them or not and if not, and that is likely, he's going to suffer for it.
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Calaveron posted:A whole lot of terrorist attacks under the tories huh There's no way to win against terrorism, but people will never accept this, much less politicians.
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Kaal posted:There's a big loophole in the tax system where you can allege the value of a property based on what you could develop there; without having to actually develop it. The $100 million figure was probably based on some exaggerated vision of a casino / golf course / hotel empire that hypothetically could have been built. It's tax fraud but the government doesn't fight back very hard about it. The real estate industry is filled with huckster poo poo like this. The drawback to this strategy is that if your local government has their poo poo together, they'll point out that if your land was worth that much thanks to its "highest and best use," you should have been paying property taxes on that amount, and in almost no case does anyone do this. Unfortunately, most local governments are either so eager to fellate the wealthy and big businesses that they just let it happen, or are so underfunded and lacking in the proper legal expertise that it would be an uphill battle. Land use and local government law is actually a really fascinating area where a lawyer can do a lot of good if they're willing to work for less than hilarious millions and be picky about their clients.
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