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Mugaaz posted:I haven't been keeping up with GW. What's the verdict on 40k 8th edition, standard garbage moneygrab or actually good? Possibly good. Big marines are the money grab, along with the insanely priced limited edition rule book that nobody needs but 2000 hams will inevitably buy.
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Pendent posted:8th looks really good from everything we've seen so far. Not perfect, but a massive improvement over what we had. The battle reports I watched so far are really promising. The rules are actually a lot simpler even though it might not seem that way at first. You pretty much don't need to go back and reference the core rulebook, just your own sheets until you know your auras and stats.
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Heh thats a Cool thing. You can buy getting started sets that come with the proper Index.
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General Olloth posted:The battle reports I watched so far are really promising. The rules are actually a lot simpler even though it might not seem that way at first. You pretty much don't need to go back and reference the core rulebook, just your own sheets until you know your auras and stats. I can confirm this--things are much, much simpler. I just played a 2k game today that basically required zero rulebook references and only lost time to rules because we didn't have everything printed out and there were a lot of new stats we don't have down yet.
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TheChirurgeon posted:I can confirm this--things are much, much simpler. I just played a 2k game today that basically required zero rulebook references and only lost time to rules because we didn't have everything printed out and there were a lot of new stats we don't have down yet. Did you record it like you were considering or do we have to wait for the report.
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Mugaaz posted:I haven't been keeping up with GW. What's the verdict on 40k 8th edition, standard garbage moneygrab or actually good? why can't it be both?
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MonsterEnvy posted:Did you record it like you were considering or do we have to wait for the report. have to wait for the report in a few hours. I'm recording the 2v2 we're playing tomorrow, but had a bit of a hiccup during today's game. My son was running a fever so we had to run him to the doctor's office. Turned out to just be a regular thing that happens when they're teething.
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Master Twig posted:Running the spearhead detachment, you can run a list with Old One Eye, and 18 carnifexes. It is battle forged and totally legal. Old one eye is sooo good if you can get him in combat. Though there is never a need to use his tail weapon.
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TKIY posted:We have a GW but our new local FLGS did 15% off preorders so the tournament guys here in town did a group buy. The funny thing is that if GW got their heads of out their asses that could easily have been their sale. I will never understand why GW sells poo poo at full price at what is essentially an outlet store. Probably because idiots like me will buy them under the auspices of supporting a local store.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:25
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GW corporate probably doesn't care but they put quotas on the managers of the stores which sucks balls.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:The funny thing is that if GW got their heads of out their asses that could easily have been their sale. I will never understand why GW sells poo poo at full price at what is essentially an outlet store. It has to do with nor devaluing the product for most companies. I mean, the margins on what they sell to the distributors isn't great and back when my store carried GW stuff we couldn't really do sales because our margins were so low anyway. This was in what was basically pre Internet times so it was a little different obviously.
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Mugaaz posted:I haven't been keeping up with GW. What's the verdict on 40k 8th edition, standard garbage moneygrab or actually good? Mostly very good, with a couple bad decisions that will probably get fixed over time with FAQs and codex releases. Can't be all good  MonsterEnvy posted:Heh thats a Cool thing. But question is are they actually a bundle deal or is it just a package "buy these two things at the same time!" like GW usually does?
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Any UK goons interested in the Death Guard from the new boxset? Drop me a pm 
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Yeast posted:pre-ordered the rulebook from my local GW, got asked why I wasn't buying the box, why I wasn't buying Index's, or objectives. Yeah gently caress that. I would honestly cancel that pre-order and go somewhere else, and when asked why tell them that very story. Lord_Hambrose posted:It has to do with nor devaluing the product for most companies. I mean, the margins on what they sell to the distributors isn't great and back when my store carried GW stuff we couldn't really do sales because our margins were so low anyway. This was in what was basically pre Internet times so it was a little different obviously. I get that, it just seems like GW stores are in this weird place where they simultaneously have to represent the Games Workshop brand and yet also act as a local game store. I've had multiple conversations with multiple managers over the years, and every one of them has the same line; GW stores are priced the way they are because the ancillary support stuff (tables, painting lessons, etc) are all free. And while I understand that argument, GW seems to go out of their way to screw their own stores. They force them to wait when other stores can sell pre-orders early, they don't carry product that people want (like Forge World), they can't put anything on sale, and they don't get any credit if someone makes a purchase online and has it delivered to the local store. And on top of that the quality of the actual services is reduced considerably from what it used to be, with less gaming space and customer interaction. I couldn't get a demo game in today because the single guy running the store was swamped with dealing with pre-orders. That's fine but it's a lovely model that doesn't make me want to be there. The Bowie guy is super professional and very easy to get along, so I don't mind spending the money to support the store, but a big part of that is due to the lack of options elsewhere. Most of my friends are closer to Bowie than LGS in Southern MD (High Tide Games) and I mostly play 40K anyway so the other options at the LGS aren't that compelling. If I was closer to a place like Games & Stuff in Glen Burnie (probably the best gaming store in MD) I would be far less likely to visit GW, but it's an hour in any direction so screw it.
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Did dreadnaughts lose droppods or will that possibly resurface in the FW book?
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moths posted:Did dreadnaughts lose droppods or will that possibly resurface in the FW book? It's def in the FW book--the Lucious Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod is in the TOC for the new FW Index
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Lord_Hambrose posted:The GW stores are honestly more like an advertisement than a real retail store. Not being allowed to discount stuff that doesn't sell to make room for more products that do has to be pretty rough when what you are required to stock is set by corporate rather than the purchasing habits of your regulars. Exactly. It's the worst of both worlds. You expect your managers to treat their stores like independent entities who develop their own communities, and yet you also treat them like extensions of the brand. Hell the GW store didn't even take my pre-order; they did it through the website and then I purchased it. It's idiotic that I couldn't do that from my own home and then pay when the order is in.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:17
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When a new title is settled on. My contribution: Games > Traditional Games > Warhammer 40k 8e: Bigly Marines
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Autism Sneaks posted:When a new title is settled on. My contribution: Games > Traditional Games > Warhammer 40k 8e: Bigly Marines Make lists sober, play drunk was a strong contender a bit back.
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What do people think of scout sentinels now? 52 points for heavy flamer sentinels seem like a thing. Fast enough to get in turn 1 heavy flamer range with their scout move and advance, and can definitely take some hits now.
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I'm definitely gonna pick some up but I was thinking I'd give them autocannons.
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The Kingfish posted:I'm definitely gonna pick some up but I was thinking I'd give them autocannons. I definitely appreciated my autocannon sentinels the other day. The two damage stat along strength 7 is fantastic. They are fast, hit hard, have decent range, and were surprisingly durable. Pretty cheap too. I think they are going to be great this edition. Armored Sentinels were also cool with Plasma Cannons.
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Autism Sneaks posted:When a new title is settled on. My contribution: Games > Traditional Games > Warhammer 40k 8e: Bigly Marines Warhammer 40k 8E: God-Emperor Trump and the Age of Bigmar
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Crazy Ferret posted:I definitely appreciated my autocannon sentinels the other day. The two damage stat along strength 7 is fantastic. I just realized Deffguns were two damage as well. Looks like I'm building Lootas!
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panascope posted:Warhammer 40k 8E: God-Emperor Trump and the Age of Bigmar Do not sully the thread with an everpresent mention of Trump.
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Yeast posted:pre-ordered the rulebook from my local GW, got asked why I wasn't buying the box, why I wasn't buying Index's, or objectives. "Cool, cancel my order then, I'll just not spend money with you."
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Master Twig posted:Look again. It's on an asterix that is only next to Stranglethorns and Heavy Venom cannons. You can't double up on those, but you can on Devourers and Deathspitters. Thank god, although I really don't know if double devourers or even slimers are worth it now.
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TheChirurgeon posted:It's def in the FW book--the Lucious Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod is in the TOC for the new FW Index Awesome, thanks! ...I just bought a regular drop pod for my dread. I don't think anyone will care though.
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BuffaloChicken posted:Formatted a bunch of propaganda posters to print and glue all over my new Shadow War terrain. All of the designs were blatantly stolen after googling except the one below: Propaganda on urban terrain should be mandatory. Reminds me of a billboard I made out of sticks and ms-paint for a street scene like ten years ago and never finished because I got stoned and glued the paper signs on before painting it. 
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Crazy Ferret posted:I definitely appreciated my autocannon sentinels the other day. The two damage stat along strength 7 is fantastic. I'm glad I gave my only armored sentinel a plasma canon last edition because they're the only reason to get one now. It looks like armored sentinels got nerfed hard.
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Warhammer 40K 8th Edition: Age of Bigmar Warhammer 40K 8th Edition: Taking the first step on the road to disappointment.
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Zaphod42 posted:The SW:A campaign rules are a complete joke compared to Necromunda, is the point. Those don't count. No, I never played it.
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Having a defined end condition makes SWA amazing. I love me some Mordheim but is basically just goof around until one gang gets out of hand and the game just disintegrates.
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Traditional Games > Warhammer 40K: Spend 2 CP to have fun. Wait poo poo that's way too similar to the Specialist Games thread. 
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B-B-B-BATTLE REPORT! BATTLE THEME: BATTLE OF IRON BATTLE IRON WARRIORS BATTLE NECRONS FOR SUPREME BATTLE SUPREMACY 2,000 BATTLE POINTS IRON WARRIORS BATTLE FORCE OF BATTLING - Chaos Lord in Terminator Armor - Warpsmith - Chaos Space Marines w/M. Launcher + Plasma gun - Chaos Space Marines w/Heavy Bolter + Meltagun - Cultists - Heldrake w/Baleflamer - Land Raider - Defiler - Vindicator - Terminators NECRONS STUPID BITCHMADE BATTLE FORCE OF rear end BATTLING - Anrakyr - Orikan - 2 squads of warriors - 1 squad of Immortals - 1 squad of Praetorians - 1 Triarch Stalker - 1 squad of Tomb Blades - 1 Ghost Ark - 1 Nightbringer BATTLE DETAILS OF THE BATTLE - Mission: Eternal War - No Mercy (VPs for units destroyed, FB, StW, LB) - Iron Warriors deep strike terminators, put warpsmith + squad in Rhino, go first - whiff on fuckin every single shot on turn 1 what the gently caress  - Drill down on the Ghost Arc, that gives buffs to dudes around it - Wipe that poo poo off the table, score FIRST BLOOD  - Watch Helbrute rush forward, end up with nothing to charge, get BATTLECLOWNED by Nightbringer - Drop Heldrake behind enemy lines along with Terminators, blow holes in rear of army  - Lose Terminators to some bullshit shooting, Anrakyr's assault - Fail every single CP reroll - Use the Defiler and Land Raider to take out the C'Tan - Make huge mistake of charging Tomb Blades with Defiler, Heldrake, CSMs, spend rest of game stuck in poo poo fight where nothing dies  - Kill Orikan, lose Heldrake to lots of shooting - Get real mad at the number of shots Tesla weapons put out when their bullshit activates on 5s - lose Cultists to shooting from Necron Warriors - Game ends on 5-5 tie after 5th turn. Heldrake going down cost me linebreaker and the win BATTLE THOUGHTS ON THE BATTLE - Overall a fun game. The new rules are definitely more streamlined--we spent much less time looking poo poo up, and consulted the main rules maybe once, compared to 2-3 times in every game of 7th edition. - The battlefield role on Battlecannons and Demolisher cannons has just changed significantly. Even getting D6 shots from a standstill wasn't strong enough to make it worth shooting Necron infantry. They were much more useful for taking down big targets - Speaking of which, Necrons are fuckin brutal with that Reanimation protocol poo poo. You basically have to pour all your fire into a unit until it's dead, so as to avoid watching half of the fuckers stand back up the following turn. It's almost not worth shooting a unit if you aren't going to wipe them out. It's especially bad on Tomb Blades, which are 2W models now and can pop right back up like some bullshit - Land Raiders are a loving house. That thing put in work for the first time ever. Killed the Ghost Arc, the C'Tan, and the Triarch Stalker - Defiler was also good in the game, though waaaaay less effective in close combat than I expected. Only having 3 attacks with a 4+ to hit is just too lovely to drop major damage, especially if you aren't fighting a bigger target where having D6 damage is good - Quantum Shielding is some buuuullllllshit now - Maybe it was because I was up against Necrons, but combat didn't *feel* any more deadly this time around. I got some good damage in with pistols by combattants--this is easy to forget to do, btw), and managed to pop off Orkian that way. - Game was smoother, faster, still felt like there were a lot of rolls being made with not enough payoff - I suspect Necrons are about to become a horde army, where 3-squad-of-20-warriors-and-3-cryptek lists will be the major jam. Run blobs big enough to get some longevity with Crypteks to boost them. Dealing with these guys is gonna require a lot of heavy bolters and autocannons. e: Heldrakes are rad as gently caress with Baleflamers. They keep hitting poo poo as their BS deteriorates, and the ability to just peace out of a fight and shoot something else is great. They get hit a lot more now, though TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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