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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Cerv posted:

At the Lycee Français waiting for the bf to vote. Never seen armed cops guarding a school before

Reckon they'll ever cancel their state of emergency?

1985: Greenland is withdrawn from the European Economic Community.

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

freebooter posted:

You don't even need to look at Scandinavia or whatever always gets cited. Just look at the UK in the 70s.
Women formally got paid less, there was a 3 day week even without strikes, and racism was really out there, but what halcyon days.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

quote:

She (Theresa May) said internet companies must not allow extremism a place to exist, but that there was also a need to tackle “safe spaces in the real world”, which would require “difficult” conversations.

So uh, what exactly does this mean? Police raiding mosques?

JOHNSON COCKSLAP
Apr 2, 2017

by Lowtax
If you can't understand why people are more scared of the deliberate, indiscriminate acts of others rather than accidents you are either 12 or autistic.

c0burn
Sep 2, 2003

The KKKing

Pochoclo posted:

So uh, what exactly does this mean? Police raiding mosques?

The Mosques that dobbed the Manchester bomber in!

Also, lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

coffeetable posted:

And for 20-34 yo men (which I assume most of this thread fits into), that possibility is somewhere on par with 'victim of falling off things'



http://visual.ons.gov.uk/what-are-the-top-causes-of-death-by-age-and-gender/

I didn't think accidental poisoning would be such an issue. What's the cause of that, substance abuse? Not cooking your meat properly?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

drat, I should stop drinking

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Boris Johnson posted:

Today we collectively resolve to beat the terrorists and their nihilistic creed.

To those who sympathise or encourage or harbour or aid or abet these killers - in any way - we say enough is enough.

Your time is up. The wells of tolerance are running empty.

That's not disturbing at all.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

^^^That's still no scarier than David Camerons views on society:



Pochoclo posted:

So uh, what exactly does this mean? Police raiding mosques?

May sides with the alt-right and wants to end all non-government moderation on websites. But yeah, also clearly she wants more powers to enter and close places as she sees fit.

JOHNSON COCKSLAP posted:

If you can't understand why people are more scared of the deliberate, indiscriminate acts of others rather than accidents you are either 12 or autistic.

The idea of someone out there planning to hurt you is scary but being more scared of that than the multitude of random stuff that is more likely to actually hurt you isn't rational, if you're just scared of being hurt.

namesake fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Jun 4, 2017

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Pochoclo posted:

So uh, what exactly does this mean? Police raiding mosques?

She's trying to protect herself by stoking Islamophobia. Coming as close to saying "We need to talk about the pakis" without saying it.

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871328428963901440

:fuckoff:

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Angepain posted:

I didn't think accidental poisoning would be such an issue. What's the cause of that, substance abuse? Not cooking your meat properly?

Drug overdose mostly. American numbers have it as 96% of accidental poisonings. I'd imagine the distinction between that and suicide is pretty blurry though.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


JOHNSON COCKSLAP posted:

If you can't understand why people are more scared of the deliberate, indiscriminate acts of others rather than accidents you are either 12 or autistic.

I can understand it but that doesn't make it rational. And considering the reaction to that fear is usually grossly disproportionate & often discriminatory I certainly don't think we should indulge it. But sure, use autism like it's a slur you bellend.

JOHNSON COCKSLAP
Apr 2, 2017

by Lowtax
either 12 or autistic.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

jabby posted:

Mays speech is littered with dogwhistle Islamophobia to boot.

"British values are superior" :argh:
What even are British values?

The only ones that spring to mind are the legal contrasts with the continent such as Blackstone's formulation of "it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" compared with Bismarck (and later Wolfgang Schäuble) stating the inverse, and a preference for analytic philosophy over structuralist and post-structuralist philosophy, but it's clear that May herself isn't a true believer in either.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

jabby posted:

That's not disturbing at all.

Mayhaps it is time to climb another mountain of conflict?

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

jabby posted:

That's not disturbing at all.

Gordon Brown spent all the tolerance

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD
Trump is literally using this as an opportunity to bash Sadiq

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871328428963901440

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Yeah Theresa May was explicitly pushing Conservative manifesto pledges like her Orwellian internet plans in that speech (whrn we don't even know if that had anything to do with the attack). It's disgusting and I hope she's called out for it.

Search your heart. You know it won't.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Angepain posted:

Gordon Brown spent all the tolerance

Diane Abbott -

I'm afraid there is no tolerance.

- Amber Rudd.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Pochoclo posted:

drat, I should stop drinking

This week might not be the best time to be considering it.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





If most terrorists are young men why don't we just ban young men?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/rubberbanddoll/status/871306044730900480

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY
Police state Britain, chilling stuff.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
If Paradox games have taught me anything, the player just got annoyed by these random events and is going to change government civics to Authoritarian / Xenophobe / Militarist. Pop happiness goes down 20% as the army blobbing starts.

Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Jun 4, 2017

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

jabby posted:

Diane Abbott -

I'm afraid there is no tolerance.

- Amber Rudd.

are we supposed to believe that there is some kind of Magic Tolerance Tree

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

cheesetriangles posted:

If most terrorists are young men why don't we just ban young men?

I think this is an argument sometimes unironically forwarded in the context of locations frequented by troubled teens

also refugees

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Ewan posted:

Trump is literally using this as an opportunity to bash Sadiq

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871328428963901440

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871331574649901056

Good ally the uk has in trump

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

I'm sure if guns were easy to procure in the UK, everyone would have had a gun and the van and the terrorists would have been shot dead before they did any damage and everyone would have clapped.

Instead of, you know, the terrorists having guns and the casualty list being 10 times worse

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


I've never understood the "time to pull the gloves off/stop tolerating this" rhetoric may is now using but also leaks into the thread after these attacks from whichever racist subforum those posters come from.

We already wage war around the world against them, we already spy on basically every mosque, we already require teachers to dob in Muslim infants if they draw a gun and if someone looks like they're gonna do a terror we arrest/shoot them and all their mates.

The only thing left is camps or genocide realistically speaking and as much as it's tempting to go "hurr that's what they want" I think the people saying that are just ignorant rather than that lovely enough to want that.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Indeed we are not having a gun debate! because there is no debate that this attack would be much worse if crazy people in britain were able to get access to guns. good point mister trump

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Ora Tzo posted:

Police state Britain, chilling stuff.
Everything will be recorded but there will be no police officers around to actually act on anything they gather

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
"british values" talk is not the most obnoxious way the multiculturalism debate could have evolved, really. remember the multiculturalism debate? that used to be a thing, y'know.

rather than sneering it would be an opportune time to make sure that something of postwar socialism - of which Britain has been enormously influential in across the world, especially in its numerous Fabian-influenced post-colonial governments - is reflected in it

ronya fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Jun 4, 2017

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Pochoclo posted:

So uh, what exactly does this mean? Police raiding mosques?

And anyone else May deems a threat.

Guavanaut posted:

What even are British values?

The only ones that spring to mind are the legal contrasts with the continent such as Blackstone's formulation of "it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" compared with Bismarck (and later Wolfgang Schäuble) stating the inverse, and a preference for analytic philosophy over structuralist and post-structuralist philosophy, but it's clear that May herself isn't a true believer in either.

Rum, sodomy and the lash? It's in the subset at least :v:

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

^^^Don't kinkshame me thanks.

Pochoclo posted:

I'm sure if guns were easy to procure in the UK, everyone would have had a gun and the van and the terrorists would have been shot dead before they did any damage and everyone would have clapped.

Instead of, you know, the terrorists having guns and the casualty list being 10 times worse

The closer the average person is armed like a FPS protagonist the more the world becomes like an FPS dontchano? Health packs, extra lives, no civilians around, etc.

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

BoneMonkey posted:

So a friend of mine has been talking to me about his political beliefs, and I have questioned him down from a Tory to a libdem.

But while he's starting to see all the problems with capitalism, he's asked the dreaded question, what does a socialist society look like?

The problem being is that I don't know.
Anyone got any good YouTube videos or links to what a good socialist or Communist society looks like?

I basically went something something worker coops something mondragon, I'll get back to you....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ove_aHOO3Tc

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

ronya posted:

"british values" talk is not the most obnoxious way the multiculturalism debate could have evolved, really. remember the multiculturalism debate? that used to be a thing, y'know.

rather than sneering it would be opportune to make sure that something of postwar socialism - of which Britain has been enormously influential in across the world, especially in its numerous Fabian-influenced post-colonial governments - is reflected in it

but the conservatives don't have any of those values. It's a whistle from one pack of dogs to another.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

namesake posted:

The closer the average person is armed like a FPS protagonist the more the world becomes like an FPS dontchano? Health packs, extra lives, no civilians around, etc.

can't have civilian casualties
[guy tapping his head]
if you enlist everyone in the army

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Guavanaut posted:

What even are British values?
We'll have the most overrated, coke-sniffing, glib terrorists in the world by jingo.

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Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Fight terrism with fish & chips and tea, throw scones and jam at the bastards, see how they like that

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