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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

JOHNSON COCKSLAP posted:

either 12 or autistic.

I don't think those things are like each other. I'm doubting your medical credentials.

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ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Spangly A posted:

but the conservatives don't have any of those values. It's a whistle from one pack of dogs to another.

the actually-existing four point educational template seems to be

quote:

- democracy
- the rule of law
- individual liberty
- mutual respect and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs

which is something! it's not nothing. there are many places that openly rejected or reject one or more of these, even (or rather especially) today. but it comes off as if nothing in Britain has happened since 1911.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Pochoclo posted:

Fight terrism with fish & chips and tea, throw scones and jam at the bastards, see how they like that

honestly inviting Muslims over for regular awkward tea parties would probably be a better strategy for social integration than deporting people's parents at least

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
How is democracy a British value when we have centuries of that not being the case. I think it's more like:

- ripping the piss out of the religious
- drunkenness at work
- fake insincerity

orange sky
May 7, 2007

So where the gently caress does the UK and US think billions and billions of arms sold to SA go? Do they just give missile launchers to every family?

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

ronya posted:

the actually-existing four point educational template seems to be


which is something! it's not nothing. there are many places that openly rejected or reject one or more of these, even (or rather especially) today. but it comes off as if nothing in Britain has happened since 1911.

I'd say the problem is that while some places might not even accept all of these points, they are also so broad that depending on your interpretation they can be contradictory (I'm mostly thinking of the first three points here). It's meaningless as abstract principle and moving any of them to how Britain actually does any of them opens them up to complete legitimate criticisms about how badly it does them and so it should be acceptable to reject them.

Yeah see this is closer to the mark:

jBrereton posted:

How is democracy a British value when we have centuries of that not being the case. I think it's more like:

- ripping the piss out of the religious
- drunkenness at work
- fake insincerity

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

jBrereton posted:

How is democracy a British value when we have centuries of that not being the case. I think it's more like:

- ripping the piss out of the religious
- drunkenness at work
- fake insincerity

Queues.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
Good point, queuing.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

ronya posted:

the actually-existing four point educational template seems to be


which is something! it's not nothing. there are many places that openly rejected or reject one or more of these, even (or rather especially) today. but it comes off as if nothing in Britain has happened since 1911.

I'll agree it's something. I'd say it rather comes across as more a deliberate denial of history than quaint ignorance, but then I've seen Michael Gove talk about these things so I'm biased.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


orange sky posted:

So where the gently caress does the UK and US think billions and billions of arms sold to SA go? Do they just give missile launchers to every family?

They're selling weapons to Lowtax?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

mehall posted:

They're selling weapons to Lowtax?

the Pleasant Hill Hijackers

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

orange sky posted:

So where the gently caress does the UK and US think billions and billions of arms sold to Saudi Arabia​ go? Do they just give missile launchers to every family?
Saudi Arabia has spent the past two years bombing Yemen into rubble, they need all the arms they can get. They also need weapons in case their own population gets uppity.

Edit: to not imply Lowtax is a war criminal, please forgive me father.

Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Jun 4, 2017

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

jBrereton posted:

Good point, queuing.

Far and away the weirdest thing about being in france was everyone just barging to the front of stuff all the time.

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.
So the police in London called out May as a liar on sky news.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Gobbeldygook posted:

SA has spent the past two years bombing Yemen into rubble, they need all the arms they can get. They also need weapons in case their own population gets uppity.
Please use "KSA" to avoid implicating lowtax in war crimes tia

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

I've been very impressed with Emily Thornberry over the past couple of weeks. Is there a compelling reason why she couldn't/shouldn't be the next leader of the Labour party if Corbyn goes after the election?

Would Pissflaps approve?

(White Van Flag Thing doesn't count).

Owlkill
Jul 1, 2009

Verizian posted:

So the police in London called out May as a liar on sky news.

Ooh what was the context?

c0burn
Sep 2, 2003

The KKKing

Verizian posted:

So the police in London called out May as a liar on sky news.

More info needed!

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

Angepain posted:

I didn't think accidental poisoning would be such an issue. What's the cause of that, substance abuse? Not cooking your meat properly?
guessing it's mostly alcohol poisoning

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Verizian posted:

So the police in London called out May as a liar on sky news.
What did he say?

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
Lodged an official complaint with the BBC over the interviewer asking Corbyn if last night's events 'were a positive or a negative regarding the polls?' for him. Doubt anything will be done but asked for a written reply :shrug:

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.
Trying to find a youtube link, it's being shared around facebook a lot but they said she was lying with claims that this is the most police we've had on the streets and that if it happened anywhere else in the country the response delay would have lead to disaster as the cuts have stretched forces too thin.

found it herehttps://www.facebook.com/EalingLabour4Corbyn



Thanks for the twitter link. I suck at using facebook.

Verizian fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Jun 4, 2017

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
I assume you are talking about this:
https://twitter.com/EL4JC/status/871334312221736960

On a similar theme there was this interview on LBC yesterday: http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ian-payne/striking-interview-with-former-police-inspector/

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
wheres the magic tolerance tree?

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Gobbeldygook posted:

SA has spent the past two years bombing Yemen into rubble, they need all the arms they can get. They also need weapons in case their own population gets uppity.

Also IS.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...t-a7766381.html

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
i might get banned for this but i think lowtax should spend the money he gets on improving the forums rather than involving us in conflict in Yemen

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
I assume all you people who understand social media are reposting that police interview as far and wide as you can.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

quote:

The inquiry commissioned by David Cameron, was launched as part of a deal with the Liberal Democrats in December 2015

the joke never ends

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Who is the guy being interviewed above, please?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Who is that guy - just a spokesman, or a senior officer?

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction

Thanks Ants posted:

Who is the guy being interviewed above, please?

Peter Kirkham former Senior Officer

MikeTheCoolOne
Jul 18, 2006

Drinking heavily the night before.

A former Met Detective Chief Inspector apparently

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/ex-policing-minister-quotes-theresa-may-fwit-tweet-live-on-the-daily-politics-9417533.html

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Just checked, and that's Peter Kirkham, an ex-Met Chief Inspector/Senior Investigating Kfficer who called Theresa Nay a 'fuckwit' three years ago.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

blunt posted:

I've been very impressed with Emily Thornberry over the past couple of weeks. Is there a compelling reason why she couldn't/shouldn't be the next leader of the Labour party if Corbyn goes after the election?

Would Pissflaps approve?

(White Van Flag Thing doesn't count).

well - to guess. female is a plus. young enough political career to not have much baggage is a plus - she even managed to skip the main iraq votes. london is a minus. lawyer is a minus (see also: starmer, umunna, etc). she's not very charismatic in person, but coaching might fix that.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
what's wrong with barry gardiner

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

jBrereton posted:

what's wrong with barry gardiner

Been a bit greedy with his expenses, and had some shady financial connections with China that may have affected his stance towards the country.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/st...%3D2194%23pti13

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Darth Walrus posted:

Been a bit greedy with his expenses, and had some shady financial connections with China that may have affected his stance towards the country.
I don't think the opposition's front bench is going to have very much to say about shady financial connections or expenses, to be honest.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Just to clarify, yes, this is a dark little dig at America's awful healthcare system.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

jBrereton posted:

I don't think the opposition's front bench is going to have very much to say about shady financial connections or expenses, to be honest.

When has a bit of naked hypocrisy ever stopped them before? Plus, if he is actually compromised, then that could be a real problem rather than just 'bad optics'.

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