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ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Siivola posted:

I can't honestly tell if you're really mad or just really gleeful.

Gleeful because I love playing modern and this situation has amped its popularity up by a lot. It's also really funny how modern has everything that Wizards deems "unfun" yet people love it while standard is only now recovering from having FNMs not fire despite being the most focus-tested-for-fun format they could make.

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myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice
It's almost like making cards is more of an art than... a science?? :wth: MtG needs more mad scientist or artist types working on it

YggdrasilTM
Nov 7, 2011

ThePeavstenator posted:

modern has everything that Wizards deems "unfun"

Nah, there are no good control decks in Modern.

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

YggdrasilTM posted:

Nah, there are no good control decks in Modern.

UWx Control decks are a thing that exist and actually are very good right now. Grixis Control was also legit for a while but basically just morphed into Grixis Death's Shadow which is now far and away the best deck in modern.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

ThePeavstenator posted:

UWx Control decks are a thing that exist

sure

quote:

and actually are very good right now.

nah

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

myDad posted:

It's almost like making cards is more of an art than... a science?? :wth: MtG needs more mad scientist or artist types working on it

Like honestly WotC should just print some crazy poo poo and also answers for the crazy poo poo.

I don't think Aetherworks Marvel would be so stupidly out of control if Stony Silence was in the format.

Granted that would probably also kill Vehicles; a key mechanic of Kaladesh. But then that didn't stop them from banning Emrakul, premier key card of Eldritch Moon.

Marketing New Brain
Apr 26, 2008

TheKingofSprings posted:

It's the second one

Honestly, standard would be so much better if loving Duress was a card. Having the discard spells be 2 cmc slows your development too much. It feels like the most important safety valve cards were taken and as a result people just can't build decks to interact properly with what they've printed.

Smashing Link
Jul 8, 2003

I'll keep chucking bombs at you til you fall off that ledge!
Grimey Drawer

Marketing New Brain posted:

Honestly, standard would be so much better if loving Duress was a card. Having the discard spells be 2 cmc slows your development too much. It feels like the most important safety valve cards were taken and as a result people just can't build decks to interact properly with what they've printed.

This but also Counterspell, Lightning Bolt, and Path to Exile.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!
lol they haven't posted the top eight for GP Omaha. I wonder why.

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice

Smashing Link posted:

This but also Counterspell, Lightning Bolt, and Path to Exile.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

Count Bleck posted:

Like honestly WotC should just print some crazy poo poo and also answers for the crazy poo poo.

I don't think Aetherworks Marvel would be so stupidly out of control if Stony Silence was in the format.

Granted that would probably also kill Vehicles; a key mechanic of Kaladesh. But then that didn't stop them from banning Emrakul, premier key card of Eldritch Moon.

Reprint stifle and ensnaring bridge.

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice
Props to WotC for the fun 1GX creatures they've printed, but we need some fun spells to play with them

e: Got banned from magic Twitch for the playful nickname Brad "60 Tug" Nelson :sigh:

myDad fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jun 4, 2017

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:
Hey look a garbage win with Marvel!

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer
This final blows so much compared to the last one.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

DangerDongs posted:

This final blows so much compared to the last one.

Pardee actually pulled that out... jesus.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
lmao Brad hit Ulamog twice and lost to some plant tokens

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice
They're playing two different games

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110

Count Bleck posted:

Like honestly WotC should just print some crazy poo poo and also answers for the crazy poo poo.

I don't think Aetherworks Marvel would be so stupidly out of control if Stony Silence was in the format.

Granted that would probably also kill Vehicles; a key mechanic of Kaladesh. But then that didn't stop them from banning Emrakul, premier key card of Eldritch Moon.

If stony silence made vehicles worse there would be room in the format for a pretty strong vehicle, maybe stronger than the ones that are currently legal... Makes u think...

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



DoctorOozy posted:

https://twitter.com/magicprotour/status/871365307851567104

Only 1 Marvel deck in the top 8. Will the complaining stop?

It was 16 of the top 32

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Errant Gin Monks posted:

Reprint stifle and ensnaring bridge.

Make Masterpieces Standard-legal while the sets that they come from are legal, but you can only play with the Masterpiece version and they don't become Modern-legal.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:
loving boo.

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice
As hated as Marvel is that last game was tight. Some real RUG poo poo!

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Also reprint Guardian Beast because that card has no right being $150-200.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!

Aaron Forsythe can go gently caress himself.

myDad posted:

As hated as Marvel is that last game was tight. Some real RUG poo poo!

That third game was fine because it didn't involve a blind flip of Ulamog.

Star Man fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jun 4, 2017

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

myDad posted:

As hated as Marvel is that last game was tight. Some real RUG poo poo!

Temur energy is a good and fun deck. Without marvel this would be an amazing standard.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Angry Grimace posted:

I don't know why people think that's a conspiracy. He's in it for money, yes. It's not actually a problem that Seth profits off his own decks (which we don't even know that he does)

Does a person working for a card store have an ulterior motive in driving up prices of random-rear end cards? We need a crack team of journalists for this one!

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

They won't ban Marvel, they will just wait until Ulamog leaves.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!

GoutPatrol posted:

They won't ban Marvel, they will just wait until Ulamog leaves.

And then whatever big rear end motherfucker card will be the next thing that Aetherworks Marvel gets will still make the card a problem.

Marketing New Brain
Apr 26, 2008

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Does a person working for a card store have an ulterior motive in driving up prices of random-rear end cards? We need a crack team of journalists for this one!

This also makes random rear end janky cards in people's collection spike in value. Ulterior motive sounds sinister, isn't this just a mutually beneficial arrangement for everyone involved?

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Star Man posted:

And then whatever big rear end motherfucker card will be the next thing that Aetherworks Marvel gets will still make the card a problem.

T4 Worldbreaker is almost as obnoxious. Marvel is just awful card design.

Tainen
Jan 23, 2004
It seems like making cards that drained or slowed energy gain would help a bit. Maybe even an effect that would make spent energy damage the player so missed spins would have a more of a downside.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

ThePeavstenator posted:

Not really, it lets you hit really expensive instants and sorceries as well, and ignoring that "cast" at least makes it so you can't miss.

well, you could hit 6 lands

Dennis McClaren
Mar 28, 2007

"Hey, don't put capture a guy!"
...Well I've got to put something!
If you were going to do some block drafts, or rotchester draft format (I'm undecided yet)...

Which 2 of these blocks would you choose to draft with?

Lorwyn-Shadowmoor
Time Spiral
Ravnica
Kamigawa

Smashing Link
Jul 8, 2003

I'll keep chucking bombs at you til you fall off that ledge!
Grimey Drawer

Subways Jared posted:

If you were going to do some block drafts, or rotchester draft format (I'm undecided yet)...

Which 2 of these blocks would you choose to draft with?

Lorwyn-Shadowmoor
Time Spiral
Ravnica
Kamigawa

TS Rav

Pontius Pilate
Jul 25, 2006

Crucify, Whale, Crucify

This.

InterrupterJones
Nov 10, 2012

Me and the boys on the way to kill another demon god
So the top 8's for each GP look something like this to me:

Manila: we've got three pretty different variants on Vehicles, with a UW flash deck of all things taking home the trophy

Amsterdam: we focus more on BG strategies with delirium winning out right, but we like our control as well as Esper vehicles

Omaha: MARVEL! MARVEL MARVEL MARVEL MARVEL MARVEL! (also some other stuff)

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Magic: The Gathering: IT'S MAHVEL, BAYBEE

myDad
Jan 20, 2010

ce n'est pas ma mère
College Slice

TheKingofSprings posted:

Magic: The Gathering: IT'S MAHVEL, BAYBEE

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Ulamog-fuckin'-neeto

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YeehawMcKickass
Jan 2, 2003

WE WELCOME THE OPPRESSORS

TheKingofSprings posted:

Magic: The Gathering: IS MAHVEL, BAYBEE

Let's at least get the reference right here.

East coast baybee Thraben were u at?

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