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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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I rather suspect north east Derbyshire is safe for Labour now. It was in real danger, and then people went "poo poo. She's just like Maggie" and labour signs went up in windows.
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ronya posted:there's polls that are free for public consumption, and then there's polls which are paid for by party hq or other NGOs weren't a lot of city types confident about Brexit cos their fancy private polls were showing a much stronger lead for remain than the public polls showing it much closer?
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Jun 5, 2017 10:22
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Pissflaps posted:What did he do to destroy it? The largest demonstration and activist movement in british history being completely ignored probably made people a lot more cynical.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:23
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learnincurve posted:I know I'm late to this discussion but I was waiting for the ghouls to sod off before reading the thread.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:23
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Vitamin P posted:The largest demonstration and activist movement in british history being completely ignored probably made people a lot more cynical. Well, he also introduced tuition fees, a policy which seems to have form for pissing off students.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:26
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ronya posted:there's polls that are free for public consumption, and then there's polls which are paid for by party hq or other NGOs Idk how other parties do it but Labour's numbers come from volunteer canvassers. It's looking like the Tories have got no chance round here, but I'm getting really worried by this "gently caress Off" party I keep hearing about.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:27
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Pissflaps posted:What did he do to destroy it? Same thing Hillary did. Sent them to die in neverending pointless wars while loftily pronouncing that both parties wisely agree on this undeniably rational course of action, and don't bother voting if you don't want to die pointlessly for a stupid cause because no one will listen to you.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:29
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Borrovan posted:Idk how other parties do it but Labour's numbers come from volunteer canvassers. It's looking like the Tories have got no chance round here, but I'm getting really worried by this "gently caress Off" party I keep hearing about. They've been in decline since their Froggy leader stepped down to be replaced by racist humpty dumpty.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:29
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Ewan posted:I know this is a bit late - but I think it's pretty standard for police, soldiers etc to have it drilled in to them: you never ever ever fire your weapon unless you are shooting someone to kill them. There are no such things as "warning shots" or shooting someone to incapacitate but not kill them. Shooting people in the legs etc to incapacitate has too many risks of missing etc (and has huge death risk anyway as easy to hit an artery). That's not how the Israeli army is trained, anyway, and they do a lot of "security exports". I don't have first hand knowledge of the British army or police so I can't comment on that, but shooting strictly to kill isn't as common as everybody thinks.
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Ewan posted:I know this is a bit late - but I think it's pretty standard for police, soldiers etc to have it drilled in to them: you never ever ever fire your weapon unless you are shooting someone to kill them. There are no such things as "warning shots" or shooting someone to incapacitate but not kill them. Shooting people in the legs etc to incapacitate has too many risks of missing etc (and has huge death risk anyway as easy to hit an artery). No, real life works just like movies. Police should have shot the knives out of their hands imo.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:31
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learnincurve posted:I rather suspect north east Derbyshire is safe for Labour now. It was in real danger, and then people went "poo poo. She's just like Maggie" and labour signs went up in windows. It's probably different in a marginal, but anecdotally I've seen plenty of Labour signs and posters, and nothing from any other party, yet it's pretty much a certainty the Tories will win comfortably. Put it this way, if they don't, then hand Jezza the keys to Number 10.
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Miftan posted:That's not how the Israeli army is trained
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jBrereton posted:Luckily the IDF don't patrol our streets. Luckier than you know. I'm just saying 'pointing a gun at someone means you want him dead' isn't the be all end all of firearms training.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:39
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Oberleutnant posted:Nazis are just the worst. Ober, I hate to tell you off, but the Nazis were right. They did things, we noticed and forced them back. Oh, and they are cunts. Doesn't stop the lovely little tykes trying to recruit, mind In case I was being enigmatic, all fascist 8s terrible (there is no word for the horror that was day to day for lunatics) Trickjaw fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Jun 5, 2017 10:40
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Kurtofan posted:rip britain, done in by bad election system Poor British democracy, thought of proportional representation and died Owlkill fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Jun 5, 2017 10:45
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learnincurve posted:I rather suspect north east Derbyshire is safe for Labour now. It was in real danger, and then people went "poo poo. She's just like Maggie" and labour signs went up in windows. Same in Bolsover, although I think Dennis saying he's standing again probably swung it more than anything.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:48
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Vitamin P posted:The largest demonstration and activist movement in british history being completely ignored probably made people a lot more cynical. That was in 2003. The people out protesting Iraq are in their early to mid 30s now. Youth voters from today will have been somewhere between 4 and 10 at the time, and probably not paying that much attention to politics. Tuition fees might have been a bigger one. Lib-Dems betrayal on tuition fees would have hit when current young voters were around 13-17, and that was a real "Politicians can't be trusted, even on the things that they have explicitly promised to do" moment.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:52
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I think the youth vote dipped under the last labour government because young people were content and therefore unmotivated to pay an interest in politics.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:56
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Undead Hippo posted:That was in 2003. The people out protesting Iraq are in their early to mid 30s now. Youth voters from today will have been somewhere between 4 and 10 at the time, and probably not paying that much attention to politics. In the run-up to 2010 when I was trying to get old schoolmates to vote they were peddling the old 'they're all the same' line which continued into 2015. There's a chance for 2017 to break from that... hopefully in a good way.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:01
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Vitamin P posted:The largest demonstration and activist movement in british history being completely ignored probably made people a lot more cynical. Anecdotal but in my CLP there are a ton of people who came back to the Labour party after leaving due to Iraq. A bunch of younger people (like me) were also put off from ever joining due to the Iraq and the fact that the Labour party until 2015 didn't seem to have an issue with young people being debt peons.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:04
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The collapse in party and union membership in the 80s will also have meant that lots of young people will have had bugger all entry points to engaging in politics as it turned into a real generational divide. Young Labour becomes poo poo as only careerists bother to join. Hopefully Momentum and non deal CLPs will fix that for Labour.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:05
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https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/871670530482606081 Five minute drive from where I live. Shame I'm at work or I'd have gone along.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:15
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Today my canvassing lot are being accompanied by Vice and it's put me off going a bit. Their hip cool get out the youth vote thing would not be helped by my gormless mug being in the background.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:18
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Pissflaps posted:I think the youth vote dipped under the last labour government because young people were content and therefore unmotivated to pay an interest in politics. It wasn't the young students, because tuition fees. It wasn't the young radicals, because Bush and Iraq. It wasn't the young on council estates, because of ever present ASBOs and suspicion. It wasn't the young BAME people because of racialized anti-terror and stop and search. It wasn't even the young liberals because of the number of bans and prohibitions. Young Tories maybe?
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Jun 5, 2017 11:19
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Vitamin P posted:Today my canvassing lot are being accompanied by Vice and it's put me off going a bit. Go and goon it up. No matter how gormless or embarrassing you feel (or indeed are) you'll laugh about it later.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:20
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peanut- posted:The Tories would change their strategy if their polling showed it not working in marginals. I don't really believe this Labour party would.  You know, the Tories have relaunched their campaign like three times at this point.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:26
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The YouGov projection has now narrowed to 305-268. Labour and SNP are ahead of the Conservatives now.
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Vitamin P posted:Today my canvassing lot are being accompanied by Vice and it's put me off going a bit. Might be Sam Kriss w/ em? Goonmeet!
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Jun 5, 2017 11:27
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OK why is the Middle East making GBS threads on Qatar right now?
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Baron Corbyn posted:The YouGov projection has now narrowed to 305-268. Labour and SNP are ahead of the Conservatives now. They are either going to have an egg-coated turd on their face come Friday or be the smuggest motherfuckers in the room.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:28
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orange sky posted:OK why is the Middle East making GBS threads on Qatar right now? Middle East thread essentially doing a  at the moment. Possibly didn't tell Iran to gently caress off hard enough? But nothing's really been announced.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:29
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Jun 5, 2017 11:31
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orange sky posted:OK why is the Middle East making GBS threads on Qatar right now? Well according to them it's because Qatar is both aiding Islamic State and Iran. At the same time. In reality it's probably something to do with Qatar helping to undermine Saudi Arabia via their pushing down of the oil price over the past few years. Those two states hate each other.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:32
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Tesseraction posted:They are either going to have an egg-coated turd on their face come Friday or be the smuggest motherfuckers in the room. A million times this. There are big reputations on the line.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:32
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https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/871645282878070784 Oh UKIP. Why do you even bother? (Paul Nuttall said something about there being only one law, BRITISH LAW (presumably in the context of evil Sharia) and obviously that's total pish.)
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Jun 5, 2017 11:34
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orange sky posted:OK why is the Middle East making GBS threads on Qatar right now? An article I read suggested that now that trump is in the white house and clearly favoring the Saudis, they're taking the opportunity to put pressure on Qatar who they've been tense with in recent years. I don't know too much about the region though so someone else could probably give a better answer.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:34
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orange sky posted:OK why is the Middle East making GBS threads on Qatar right now? Call me  if you will but I seem to recall leaked US intelligence not too long ago that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are funding Daesh - making GBS threads on the one that May & Trump haven't (to my knowledge) recently been involved with high-profile arms deals with seems like a solid diversion.
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Jun 5, 2017 11:35
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orange sky posted:OK why is the Middle East making GBS threads on Qatar right now?
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One of the attackers had an Irish identity card on them. Oh gently caress it's the JihaIRA.
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