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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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darkwasthenight posted:Corbyn pulling off a miracle win and then getting challenged and coup'd would be the final knife in the back of Labour youth engagement, and also incredibly dumb. So of course it would happen. if they did that, it would have to be by setting up a new party because he'd win another leadership election and I doubt there'd be enough willing to do that to form a government, so they'd have to coalition up with the Tories, which would get them five years in government before losing their seats because everyone would hate them except Tory voters who would vote for the Tories. More likely they'd spend the duration of the administration being obstructionist bellends. E: 10/9/2002: Switzerland joins the UN.
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Autonomous Monster posted:This is what I'm told, and anecdotally it matches my experience at counts. They open up the boxes and Tories come flooding out.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:28
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https://twitter.com/sam_lister_/status/871717195830755329 Potemkin Populism
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Tesseraction posted:lmao so all those jokes about the problem with her party-less leaflets actually turned out to be accurate The one I got through the door literally says "Theresa May and I, [candidate]". It's phenomenal.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:29
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Borrovan posted:Get in touch with your local CLP and go knocking on doors - you'd be amazed how many undecided voters there are and how easily they're persuaded. Better yet, if you're in a safe or unwinnable seat, try a different constituency. It's easy, I swear, even goony fucks can do it, and just showing your face and asking for support is enough to win some people over. If I wasn't so busy I would. I reckon next time round I'll be canvassing though regardless of the result of this election.
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darkwasthenight posted:Corbyn pulling off a miracle win and then getting challenged and coup'd would be the final knife in the back of Labour youth engagement, and also incredibly dumb. So of course it would happen. woodcock et al can stamp their feet as much as they like but they aren't getting the incumbent kicked off the ballot and they're never, ever going to win an election
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Baron Corbyn posted:More likely they'd spend the duration of the administration being obstructionist bellends.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:30
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spectralent posted:The one I got through the door literally says "Theresa May and I, [candidate]". It's phenomenal. Whereas in my constituency there's a level of anti-Westminster-centrism sentiment so our local leaflet makes no mention of Corbyn (who's locally described as a nice bloke but doesn't understand what it's like outside of Westminster) but has the manifesto headlines in nice big sections.
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Entropy238 posted:Ok I'll keep my feet on the ground for the time being The Green Party PPC for the 2015 elections ended up joining the Labour party after Corbyn won, and there was a huge battle in the CLP over whether he should be allowed in or not. He did eventually get in, and has now made a big appeal to Green voters in the constituency (a marginal with a few thousand Green voters) to vote Labour, since the candidate has worked in the environment agency for decades and stands for much of the same values. It's such a shame that the right of the party just wants to try and poo poo on people like that and keep the party as their neoliberal safe space.
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So say hypothetically Corbs does pull off the miracle of the century and wins this. Sure the PLP are going to be gunning for him but what exactly would their angle be? Their whole opposition so far has been 'he is a nice man but he can't win an election' (sometimes without the first bit). So if he conclusively proves that he can, and not just win but pull of an incredible turnaround, that argument is shot to pieces. Any further attacks would just be openly ideological Labour right poo poo. While I don't put this past many of them, it would be very very difficult to keep the tone of 'sensible liberal progressive person asking pragmatic questions' that much of the criticism has maintained for example in wanky Guardian thinkipieces. I would have thought the Labour right would be furious but basically impotent - they'd be the socialists under Blair.
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Postal voter here and just to clarify you fill them out with a black ink pen. Also the shoot to kill policy needs to go in the OP because nowadays it means gently caress all. Back in the troubles it was an unofficial plan to murder IRA members. My dad was a British soldier Ulster type and even he found it distasteful when another soldier chucked a grenade through the window of a suspected IRA house while the family was sat down to dinner. That is shoot to kill policy. Unofficial assassination without court involvement. Of course nobody remembers that now so they assume it's something else. Of course the reason it was considered distasteful is because a grenade through the letterbox was how the IRA welcomed soldiers when they found their address.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:40
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I would love if the try the unelectable schtick even in that circumstance.
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Cerv posted:I've a bottle of champagne in the fridge ready for Friday breakfast time. just in case. My procedure for anything like this is to have two bottles - some nice champers or similar if it goes well, and some cheap rotgut whisky for if it doesn't. Insurance!
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Tesseraction posted:I would love if the try the unelectable schtick even in that circumstance. I was about to say even they aren't that thick/brazen, but I'd be wrong.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:45
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ThomasPaine posted:So say hypothetically Corbs does pull off the miracle of the century and wins this. Sure the PLP are going to be gunning for him but what exactly would their angle be? Their whole opposition so far has been 'he is a nice man but he can't win an election' (sometimes without the first bit). So if he conclusively proves that he can, and not just win but pull of an incredible turnaround, that argument is shot to pieces. Any further attacks would just be openly ideological Labour right poo poo. While I don't put this past many of them, it would be very very difficult to keep the tone of 'sensible liberal progressive person asking pragmatic questions' that much of the criticism has maintained for example in wanky Guardian thinkipieces. it depends if the MPs who were willing to work with him between his election and the whole chicken coup nonsense are willing to support him as Prime Minister. I bet at least a few would start creeping around for cabinet positions, and as much as I'd love Corbyn to reward the loyalty of the ones who stuck in the shadow cabinet, the best thing to do would make some sort of unity cabinet. The likes of Umuna, Kendall, Gapes, Mann, Woodcock are unlikely to ever side with him and will comprise some new version of the awkward squad and probably vote with the Tories to gently caress up some of the better manifesto promises.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:47
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feedmegin posted:My procedure for anything like this is to have two bottles - some nice champers or similar if it goes well, and some cheap rotgut whisky for if it doesn't. Insurance! The cheap whisky gets smashed on Thursday night starting at about half 9.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:47
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TheRat posted:He's also been part of a great service to the world. This is him in the car with Corbyn as they run over a cameraman's foot: Speaking of which did you all see Graham Norton, it's on IPlayer now, he absolutely tore into May and Tim Farron and jibed Corbyn in a non serious I support him but I have to do this because the BBC are supposed to be impartial kind of a way. Then Tom Cruise was shown that picture and went "I was advising him to turn up to the debate" Tom Cruise is mocking you Theresa, Tom Cruise.
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Ladies & Gentlemen, I present to you style icon and trendsetter Jeremy Corbyn https://twitter.com/BritishVogue/status/871710194283143169
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TheRat posted:He's also been part of a great service to the world. This is him in the car with Corbyn as they run over a cameraman's foot: Did any of the media ever question how it was the drivers fault that the cameraman put his foot under the rear wheel?
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Jun 5, 2017 14:55
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TheRat posted:Ladies & Gentlemen, I present to you style icon and trendsetter Jeremy Corbyn Exhibit K in why Corbyn is the absolute boy. Expect a Palace collab in 2018.
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Baron Corbyn posted:The likes of Umuna, Kendall, Gapes, Mann, Woodcock are unlikely to ever side with him and will comprise some new version of the awkward squad and probably vote with the Tories to gently caress up some of the better manifesto promises. Woodcock is done as an MP.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:57
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/871725780535062528 Should see more pressure on May to have a word now
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Spangly A posted:Woodcock is done as an MP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY436JiiCjg&ab_channel=steelels1
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Jun 5, 2017 15:03
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Barrow and Furness is a marginal that is especially hostile to any perception of insufficient patriotism, any Labour MP would be wise to distance himself or herself from any suggestion of it
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Jun 5, 2017 15:05
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Has it come up yet about Corbyn's mate and one of the chief architects of the current swing towards Labour being a Stalanist and think North Korea was a great place?
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Spuckuk posted:Exhibit K in why Corbyn is the absolute boy. Personally, I was hoping he'd go more into the grime connection. Someone send Corb a pair of Air Max 95s.
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Has it come up yet about Corbyn's mate and one of the chief architects of the current swing towards Labour being a Stalanist and think North Korea was a great place? yeah, it's great isn't it?
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https://twitter.com/Kent_Online/status/871684502132862977 well, that's quite a thing
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ronya posted:Barrow and Furness is a marginal that is especially hostile to any perception of insufficient patriotism, any Labour MP would be wise to distance himself or herself from any suggestion of it Losing votes because you've obsessively alienated the left wingers in your constituency is also a bad idea in a tight race. dispatch_async posted:https://twitter.com/Kent_Online/status/871684502132862977 Best part is that I'd believe you if you told me it was pro-EU protesters or 'kippers.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:09
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Has it come up yet about Corbyn's mate and one of the chief architects of the current swing towards Labour being a Stalanist and think North Korea was a great place? Wait, who?
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Noxville posted:https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/871725780535062528 Nice of Trump to do Khan's reelection campaigning for him
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Noxville posted:https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/871725780535062528 If she doesn't stand up to that evil orange gently caress then Britain should just accept that she'll privatise the whole country and sell us to the EU as her brexit negotiation.
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dispatch_async posted:https://twitter.com/Kent_Online/status/871684502132862977 I'm thinking of the Wicker Man.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:11
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https://twitter.com/NickCohen4/status/871729135713964033 Nick Cohen, living proof that even clocks badly broken by the Iraq War can be right on very rare occasions.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:11
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I'm actually really pissed that he's doubling down on making GBS threads on Khan so soon after a tragedy.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:12
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Do the foreign nationals hurt in the attack at the weekend need to pay for their care? I hope as a nation there's some method to waive costs from attacks like this.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:13
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dispatch_async posted:https://twitter.com/Kent_Online/status/871684502132862977 Steve Bell has gone too far.
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Jun 5, 2017 15:14
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Losing votes because you've obsessively alienated the left wingers in your constituency is also a bad idea in a tight race. the corbyn aura will keep those idiots on-side, at least for now. so the marginal voter, this time literally just a few hundred of them, are what matter in a town that maintains nuclear subs. telling them that at least you'll nominally fight for trident is the least you can do backbencher promises to kick out their own PM are silly anyway, or corbyn's own long career would be pretty darned different
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dispatch_async posted:https://twitter.com/Kent_Online/status/871684502132862977 This really sets a fire under the election. A burning passion is awakened. Set fire to it! Burn it! loving set everything on dover on fire!
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mehall posted:Do the foreign nationals hurt in the attack at the weekend need to pay for their care? I hope as a nation there's some method to waive costs from attacks like this. If you are taken to A&E (accident and emergency department), a minor injuries unit or walk-in centre for emergency treatment then this is free of charge. https://www.myhealth.london.nhs.uk/information-for-overseas-visitors Ewan fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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