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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
This poll is closed.
Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Going back a few days (I've been away) but who was the guy who thought that Wargames was pro-nuclear weapons again

It's a pro MAD film that supports the concept of rational actors unambiguously declaring their intention to follow up any strike with an immediate retaliation, preventing the escalations that WOPR plays out in the story.

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jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Baron Corbyn posted:

he'll do the latter easily, but he could be gaining 5-10 points on what Ed got and still lose seats.

YouGov's miracle seat estimator seems to think there's a >95% chance of Labour gaining seats.

They are either gonna be heroes or a laughing stock come Friday.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jabby posted:

YouGov's miracle seat estimator seems to think there's a >95% chance of Labour gaining seats.

They are either gonna be heroes or a laughing stock come Friday.

What do you think they'll be?

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Again, we'll find out on Friday how effective following a 'me-too' Brexit platform has been.

Given the Lib Dems are running on a near exclusive Pro EU platform and had the press calling them the "Real opposition" I don't think we have to wait. They're dying on their arse and will be lucky to keep the 9MP's they've got.

BoneMonkey
Jul 25, 2008

I am happy for you.

Your reminder that hope is a lie, Torys will gain everything dispite everything.

Vote, labor.

Don't drink to much in Friday!

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
i can't wait until after the election when we can fire up our magical interdimensional looking glasses calibrated on specific campaign choices and compare the vote and seat counts totals to determine precisely what did or did not have a positive or negative effect on the labour vote

or maybe we'll just reckon a bunch of reckons real hard at each other endlessly and forever, I hear that worked out real well for determining how to improve the democratic party vote in the past after nov 2016 and I'm sure that will be an enjoyable experience

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Pissflaps posted:

It's a pro MAD film that supports the concept of rational actors unambiguously declaring their intention to follow up any strike with an immediate retaliation, preventing the escalations that WOPR plays out in the story.

Not sure about that, Pissflaps

I mean I watched it only a couple of months ago

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Angepain posted:

i can't wait until after the election when we can fire up our magical interdimensional looking glasses calibrated on specific campaign choices and compare the vote and seat counts totals to determine precisely what did or did not have a positive or negative effect on the labour vote

or maybe we'll just reckon a bunch of reckons real hard at each other endlessly and forever, I hear that worked out real well for determining how to improve the democratic party vote in the past after nov 2016 and I'm sure that will be an enjoyable experience

I reckon that, in the face of the worst Tory election campaign in living memory, there is absolutely no excuse for Labour losing this election.


MrL_JaKiri posted:

Not sure about that, Pissflaps

I mean I watched it only a couple of months ago

Sounds like some bits went over your head. Watch it again.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Look, this all is super simple so I don't know why I hve to repeat it: Corbyn is going to win because Pissflaps thinks he won't.

StoicFnord
Jul 27, 2012

"If you want to make enemies....try to change something."


College Slice
I'm trying so hard not to feel hope. Bloody YouGov is not helping.

I have friends whos continued living existence rides on this election.

I wish i could give this 40‰ tory voters just a hint of loving empathy.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT


Look at this absolute poo poo. An interview with no questions. She doesn't have the PR chops to turn this around and take control (which is bad) but they literally invited her on to play some memory game

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Pissflaps posted:

Sounds like some bits went over your head. Watch it again.

It is Matthew Broderick's finest film but I think that's a bit soon

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Cerebral Bore posted:

Look, this all is super simple so I don't know why I hve to repeat it: Corbyn is going to win because Pissflaps thinks he won't.

Bullshit, name me three votes he got wrong in the past two years.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Oberleutnant posted:

I'm having to think about this right now as my gf wants me to move to Barcelona with her in the autumn, and on the one hand it would be amazing, but on the other hand the only Spanish I know is how to tell her I love her. Half considering taking an OU course in IT while working shity jobs for a couple years and just basically starting over, but it's a scary prospect.

Get on Duolingo, it's v good. Plus they have a flirting section where all the comments are 'what the hell' so at least you can make her laugh



double nine posted:

https://twitter.com/unisontweets/status/871802585585418241


could be neat/useful to persuade your co-worker tory maybe perhaps

Someone tweet them and tell them to put some +s on those crime numbers because at a glance they look like reductions

In fact tell them to make it 'change for X crimes' so it's not so wordy and you can actually fit the stats on screen on mobile

baka kaba fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jun 5, 2017

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

double nine posted:

https://twitter.com/unisontweets/status/871802585585418241


could be neat/useful to persuade your co-worker tory maybe perhaps



Nice.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

What do you think they'll be?

I've no idea. But then what exactly would I base my opinion on?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jabby posted:

I've no idea. But then what exactly would I base my opinion on?

Are you saying you have no opinion?

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Are you saying you have no opinion?

Are you angry about gimmick infringement?

PIGS BREXIT
Mar 29, 2017

jabby posted:

I've no idea. But then what exactly would I base my opinion on?

You can't post here if you don't have or won't share your opinion mate

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Gonzo McFee posted:

Are you angry about gimmick infringement?

I don't understand. I have many opinions, and I have shared lots of them with this thread.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Now got Thurs off work. Is there US style get people out to vote schemes in this country? Feel like I want to be haranguing people into the booth. Young people anyway.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Are you saying you have no opinion?

I don't know how accurate the extremely complicated polling model is going to be. I'm not sure how anyone would.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

baka kaba posted:

Get on Duolingo, it's v good. Plus they have a flirting section where all the comments are 'what the hell' so at least you can make her laugh
I'll give it a look, cheers!

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Now got Thurs off work. Is there US style get people out to vote schemes in this country? Feel like I want to be haranguing people into the booth. Young people anyway.

Walk around local student accommodation hotspots with a snare drum round your neck and get those mounging scrunts out of their hangover coma.

thehappyprince
Apr 4, 2006

Alastair Cock

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Now got Thurs off work. Is there US style get people out to vote schemes in this country? Feel like I want to be haranguing people into the booth. Young people anyway.

yeah

http://www.labour.org.uk/w/polling-day-volunteers-qs

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jabby posted:

I don't know how accurate the extremely complicated polling model is going to be. I'm not sure how anyone would.

It's my opinion that their extremely complicated polling model is steaming horseshit and their 95% chance of Labour gaining seats is a bollocks,

Freezer
Apr 20, 2001

The Earth is the cradle of the mind, but one cannot stay in the cradle forever.
Is the UK election similar to the US one insofar as only the swing seats end up mattering? Im guessing there's more of those...

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

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Mr. Flunchy posted:

Now got Thurs off work. Is there US style get people out to vote schemes in this country? Feel like I want to be haranguing people into the booth. Young people anyway.

http://www.labour.org.uk/w/polling-day-volunteers-qs

e:f,b

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

It's my opinion that their extremely complicated polling model is steaming horseshit and their 95% chance of Labour gaining seats is a bollocks,

You're really bothered that Corbyn's doing better than Ed Miliband, aren't you?

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Gonzo McFee posted:

You're really bothered that Corbyn's doing better than Ed Miliband, aren't you?

Well he was a major part of the Milifandom.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Gonzo McFee posted:

You're really bothered that Corbyn's doing better than Ed Miliband, aren't you?

I'm bothered that the Tories are going to win another election.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Election day child catching

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

I'm bothered that the Tories are going to win another election.

Then you should be probably raging at FPTP rather than Corbyn who has done more for the Labour party's viability than anybody you suggested.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

It's my opinion that their extremely complicated polling model is steaming horseshit and their 95% chance of Labour gaining seats is a bollocks,

But can you draw a crowd?

Also, it's still hilarious that up until a few weeks ago your favourite straw-man was Corbyn supporters not believing the polling companies. Which are now steaming horseshit and bollocks.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Gonzo McFee posted:

Then you should be probably raging at FPTP rather than Corbyn who has done more for the Labour party's viability than anybody you suggested.

Out of interest, does Corbyn support PR?

jabby posted:

Also, it's still hilarious that up until a few weeks ago your favourite straw-man was Corbyn supporters not believing the polling companies. Which are now steaming horseshit and bollocks.

The YouGov model is steaming horseshit, not their polls.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Pissflaps posted:

The YouGov model is steaming horseshit, not their polls.

Can you give a technical explanation for this?

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

The YouGov model is steaming horseshit, not their polls.

Why?

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Fans posted:



Oh dear.
Get on my level :smugdog:




Seconding DuoLingo as worth a shout. :heysexy:

https://twitter.com/shitduosays/status/651063220149579777

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

TheRat posted:

Can you give a technical explanation for this?


Because polling is based on taking a sample of the public, asking them some questions. then applying appropriate weightings to reach a conclusion about the opinions of the population as a whole, whereas their model is:

quote:

A new election model based on Multilevel Regression and Post-stratification analysis, which will update every day between now and June the 8th. This is something we publicly tested during last year’s EU campaign and it always had “Leave” ahead.

It works by modelling every constituency and key voter types in Britain based on analysis of key demographics as well as voting behaviour in the 2015 general election and the 2016 EU referendum. Turnout is assessed on voters’ demographics and is based on analysis from 2010 and 2015 British Election Study data.

It's not a poll. It's a model.

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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Out of interest, does Corbyn support PR?

There are calls within the Labour party to do it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/proportional-representation-electoral-reform-pr-labour-manifesto-jeremy-corbyn-a7715786.html

I imagine it'd be more likely than not that Corbyn would back the more democratic option than not.


TheRat posted:

Can you give a technical explanation for this?

It's new, untested and as such more likely to fail. He's taking a safe gamble that it'll be wrong. And if it's right he gets to point out how he's happy Corbyn Labour won.

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