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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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Al-Saqr posted:Can someone bring down all the hope in this room by pointing out the other times polls pointed to a tighter race only for labour to be humiliated?
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 01:34 |
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# ? May 21, 2024 15:08 |
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Corbyn should resign to be honest if Labour loses the election, he should resign and have a nice holiday
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 01:35 |
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OwlFancier posted:Now it's hopeful jam granddad vs thatcher without the sex appeal. bit scared by this tbqh
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 01:39 |
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Snipee posted:I haven't been following the thread religiously. Is this still part of your plan to seduce Pissflaps? I think the interesting thing about the modern Tory party is that it's really not all that similar to the old school tough Tory party that Churchill etc symbolise. There's a New Conservatives as much as there was a New Labour, and it's way more about aggressive privatisation and shrinking the state than it is about securing a strong nation-state. Modern Tories keep up the rhetoric of the older incarnation (May in particular does this, which might well be why she was seen as a decent replacement for Cameron) and in some small respects (e.g. authoritarian powers given to the police and security services) they keep up an element of the tradition but in actual policy it's neoliberalism all the way. What really makes me feel genuinely sad is the knowledge that a lot of the elderly are voting for a party that doesn't exist anymore - they want the stability and firmness that goes with the old school conservatism they remember from the postwar period (and an element of xenophobia undoubtedly plays a part - but likely genuine xenophobia, fear based on ignorance than any real malice). Tory rhetoric leads them to believe that it's what the party still represents, but it hasn't done so since probably the 70s. As a result all these old folks vote directly against their own and everyone else's interests - see the inevitable queues of pensioners expressing horror at the dismantling of the NHS while completely failing to put two and two together. There is of course still a wing of the Tory party that would return things to how they were, but they are as marginal as Labour socialists were under Blair. I suppose the one positive to take from this is that I do genuinely believe that a large segment of the elderly's support for the Tories comes from this false consciousness, or rather this failure to recognise the ideological developments within the party. So as the group who have direct memory of the old Tories begin to die off, I'd wager we'll see a gradual decline in support amongst the olds. Certainly I can't imagine support for the Tories being hugely significant amongst those born post-Thatcher, or at least I imagine the balance between Labour and Conservative being more evenly matched and this continuing as these people age. Benjamin Arthur posted:You're a thick dickhead attention whore who thought Corbyn was leading Labour to it's destruction and you should get a life rather than making bad posts in this thread your whole life lmao
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 01:40 |
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spectralent posted:bit scared by this tbqh Hey I don't get it either but a lot of tories seemed to be erotically fond of the old bag.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 01:45 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:You already are wrong. Whether he wins or loses he should have had the support of his party. They chose to believe, like you, that it was impossible for him to win and set about making it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Worst Conservative campaign in history? Meet most backstabbing party of imbeciles who have utterly betrayed their leader and the Labour membership. They cancel each other out. The one thing everyone should be able to agree on is that the backstabbing and infighting of the PLP achieved at best nothing, and at worst a dramatic drop in support for the party. Which considering what we know about Corbyn and the fact that he actually values democracy, should have been blatantly obvious to all of them from the start.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 01:47 |
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Another excellent thing to come from Norway: Jarlsberg, om nom nom.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 01:53 |
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The idea that the bad showing the tories are doing is entirely because of May's flaws and nothing to do with Corbyn is blatant revisionism. The tories come off as impersonal and stage managed in contrast to corbyn. Their manifesto looks like poo poo because it's lacking in aspiration and facing an actual alternative plan for the country rather than 90% the same stuff with a few numbers changed.The tory strategy of attacking the man not the policies would again be very different with someone else in charge. Assuming all other things in the campaign would be equal or better with a different labour leader is just absurd. Plus without corbyn's terrible approval ratings 2 months ago we'd almost certainly not even have had a snap election.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 01:55 |
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OwlFancier posted:Hey I don't get it either but a lot of tories seemed to be erotically fond of the old bag. Remember that Pissflaps got real worked up by the photo of May with cleavage. Like a solid page of derails suddenly stopped as everyone mocked him in between vomiting. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 01:56 |
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OwlFancier posted:Another excellent thing to come from Norway: Jarlsberg, om nom nom.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 01:59 |
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Oh yeah mean solid napalm
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 02:44 |
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https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/871861409377812480 the children are the future
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 02:53 |
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ronya posted:https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/871861409377812480 Hope was, indeed, a mistake.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 03:01 |
Hope is the first step etc etc
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 03:04 |
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British Labour oughta take a few lessons from Aus Labor if they think deposing a sitting recently elected Labour PM is a good idea.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 03:08 |
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I'm pulling for you guys from across the pond! Go out and make this happen! =D
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 03:12 |
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Please don't become a police state with a collapsed economy due to an evil old woman who doesn't understand computers being in charge. Please make an actually good thing happen for once.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 04:58 |
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It's going to be a Conservative victory, maybe slightly more narrow than they thought, but a victory all the same.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 05:10 |
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:It's going to be a Conservative victory, maybe slightly more narrow than they thought, but a victory all the same. We're also all going to die and anything we do is utterly fruitless in the long run.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 05:15 |
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Imagine Owen Smith as leader
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 05:35 |
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Zoran posted:Imagine Owen Smith as leader All those spicy press conferences he would have given to a room of 30 people.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 05:39 |
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OwlFancier posted:We're also all going to die and anything we do is utterly fruitless in the long run. Yes, I suppose there is a bright side
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 05:44 |
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https://youtu.be/Gt7lWRtfve8 Unfortunately his voting record is a lot less funny.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 05:48 |
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Please don't post untagged shock pics in this thread, especially at breakfast time.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 06:26 |
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Zoran posted:Imagine Owen Smith as leader We could have triangulated the poo poo out of this election. No policy would be too banal.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 06:27 |
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big scary monsters posted:
I am shocked you do not consider this a tasty breakfast.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 06:39 |
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Anyone suggesting Corbyn will be ousted if he loses is an idiot. The only way Corbyn doesn't walk a re-election is if he decides not to run again. If he runs, the only way he doesn't win is if his supporters don't vote and one of the other candidates can inspire hundreds of thousands of people to join the Party, or at least pay to vote. And if you think that could happen then lol.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 06:42 |
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Zalakwe posted:I am shocked you do not consider this a tasty breakfast. Is like the Nordic countries all had a competition to produce the most disgusting "delicacy". Iceland and Sweden put in strong showings with rotten shark and rotten herring, but Norway decided to prove you can make anything terrible if you try hard enough by combining caramel and cheese into something far worse than mere gone off fish. Finland's attempt was to make licorice one of their major food groups, but for some reason they kept it long after the bet was over.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 06:50 |
God, I just want this all to be over already so I can get back to good old fashioned standard despondency.ThomasPaine posted:I think the interesting thing about the modern Tory party is that it's really not all that similar to the old school tough Tory party that Churchill etc symbolise. There's a New Conservatives as much as there was a New Labour, and it's way more about aggressive privatisation and shrinking the state than it is about securing a strong nation-state. Modern Tories keep up the rhetoric of the older incarnation (May in particular does this, which might well be why she was seen as a decent replacement for Cameron) and in some small respects (e.g. authoritarian powers given to the police and security services) they keep up an element of the tradition but in actual policy it's neoliberalism all the way. This is a really good post, my dude. Can I share it around a bit outside UKMT? I think a lot of people might find it an interesting take.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 07:27 |
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Excelzior posted:We live in the worst possible timeline. no blairite is going to be labour leader again. the response to rising global fascism is not to follow it rightwards and the labour party members seem to recognise this even if the plp don't.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 07:46 |
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Blairites are a spent force, if there's a challenge, it'll come from Watson's old Labour right mob or the wishy washy centre-left.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 07:54 |
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/871859189513113600 I'm the picture of Corbyn entitled "danger to Britain" above a picture of the TV jihadi.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 08:05 |
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big scary monsters posted:Is like the Nordic countries all had a competition to produce the most disgusting "delicacy". Iceland and Sweden put in strong showings with rotten shark and rotten herring, but Norway decided to prove you can make anything terrible if you try hard enough by combining caramel and cheese into something far worse than mere gone off fish. Wow, mods?
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 08:06 |
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https://twitter.com/elmer_dudd/status/871845019560312833 Sorry guys, I think I have to vote Tory now.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 08:10 |
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Gort posted:https://twitter.com/elmer_dudd/status/871845019560312833 I just love that in the age of smartphones he couldn't find a camera that filmed in more than 240p. Like he actually dug out a Panasonic his wife bought him in 2004.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 08:20 |
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Steve2911 posted:I just love that in the age of smartphones he couldn't find a camera that filmed in more than 240p. Like he actually dug out a Panasonic his wife bought him in 2004. Nah, they had to reduce the resolution because his primal "fygm" sexual energy turns men like myself gay for pay.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 08:26 |
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staberind posted:Nah, they had to reduce the resolution because his primal "fygm" sexual energy turns men like myself gay for pay. https://twitter.com/MissEllieMae/status/871855589953081346 Enjoy!
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 08:39 |
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The Guardian have published their separate sorta-endorsement for Scottish seats, and it pretty much boils down to vote SNP where they're best placed to stop the Tories.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 08:40 |
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big scary monsters posted:I don't think that this young person is going to be able to vote, my postal ballot hasn't reached me yet and even if it turns up tomorrow I think it might be too late. My constituency has a huge SNP majority with Labour in distant second (Tories got 7% in 2015 lol), so I guess it won't matter. You can take your postal vote to the polling station on election day. This is a rather important election. Pissflaps posted:When Corbyn fails to defeat the worst Tory campaign in living memory it will take a brave person to continue insisting I am wrong. You've shamelessly dragged your goalposts and everybody in this thread knows it.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 08:45 |
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# ? May 21, 2024 15:08 |
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It does seem a bit weird having an election now. I'm not suggesting they do any thing differently.
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# ? Jun 6, 2017 08:53 |