Al-Saqr posted:

Can someone bring down all the hope in this room by pointing out the other times polls pointed to a tighter race only for labour to be humiliated?

OwlFancier posted:

Now it's hopeful jam granddad vs thatcher without the sex appeal.

Snipee posted:

I haven't been following the thread religiously. Is this still part of your plan to seduce Pissflaps?

Anyways, holy poo poo at the crime stats. What a weird situation when the left is suddenly more "tough" on crime than the right.

Benjamin Arthur posted:

You're a thick dickhead attention whore who thought Corbyn was leading Labour to it's destruction and you should get a life rather than making bad posts in this thread your whole life

spectralent posted:

bit scared by this tbqh

Regarde Aduck posted:

You already are wrong. Whether he wins or loses he should have had the support of his party. They chose to believe, like you, that it was impossible for him to win and set about making it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Worst Conservative campaign in history? Meet most backstabbing party of imbeciles who have utterly betrayed their leader and the Labour membership. They cancel each other out.

OwlFancier posted:

Hey I don't get it either but a lot of tories seemed to be erotically fond of the old bag.

OwlFancier posted:

Another excellent thing to come from Norway: Jarlsberg, om nom nom.

TheRat posted:

ronya posted:

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/871861409377812480

the children are the future

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

It's going to be a Conservative victory, maybe slightly more narrow than they thought, but a victory all the same.

Zoran posted:

Imagine Owen Smith as leader

OwlFancier posted:

We're also all going to die and anything we do is utterly fruitless in the long run.

TheRat posted:

Zoran posted:

Imagine Owen Smith as leader

big scary monsters posted:

Please don't post untagged shock pics in this thread, especially at breakfast time.

Zalakwe posted:

I am shocked you do not consider this a tasty breakfast.

ThomasPaine posted:

I think the interesting thing about the modern Tory party is that it's really not all that similar to the old school tough Tory party that Churchill etc symbolise. There's a New Conservatives as much as there was a New Labour, and it's way more about aggressive privatisation and shrinking the state than it is about securing a strong nation-state. Modern Tories keep up the rhetoric of the older incarnation (May in particular does this, which might well be why she was seen as a decent replacement for Cameron) and in some small respects (e.g. authoritarian powers given to the police and security services) they keep up an element of the tradition but in actual policy it's neoliberalism all the way.

What really makes me feel genuinely sad is the knowledge that a lot of the elderly are voting for a party that doesn't exist anymore - they want the stability and firmness that goes with the old school conservatism they remember from the postwar period (and an element of xenophobia undoubtedly plays a part - but likely genuine xenophobia, fear based on ignorance than any real malice). Tory rhetoric leads them to believe that it's what the party still represents, but it hasn't done so since probably the 70s. As a result all these old folks vote directly against their own and everyone else's interests - see the inevitable queues of pensioners expressing horror at the dismantling of the NHS while completely failing to put two and two together. There is of course still a wing of the Tory party that would return things to how they were, but they are as marginal as Labour socialists were under Blair.

I suppose the one positive to take from this is that I do genuinely believe that a large segment of the elderly's support for the Tories comes from this false consciousness, or rather this failure to recognise the ideological developments within the party. So as the group who have direct memory of the old Tories begin to die off, I'd wager we'll see a gradual decline in support amongst the olds. Certainly I can't imagine support for the Tories being hugely significant amongst those born post-Thatcher, or at least I imagine the balance between Labour and Conservative being more evenly matched and this continuing as these people age.

Excelzior posted:

We live in the worst possible timeline.

Labour will win just barely, and the PLP will promptly stab Corbyn in the back in favor of some Blairite shithead. Literally none of the Labour manifesto's proposals will come to pass. With the electorate soured on Labour's non-delivery on their promises, 3 decades of Tory rule is ushered in at the next election.

There. Now whatever happens, I can go "it could've been worse"

jabby posted:

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/871859189513113600

...Actually kind of bad for the government?

big scary monsters posted:

Is like the Nordic countries all had a competition to produce the most disgusting "delicacy". Iceland and Sweden put in strong showings with rotten shark and rotten herring, but Norway decided to prove you can make anything terrible if you try hard enough by combining caramel and cheese into something far worse than mere gone off fish.

Finland's attempt was to make licorice one of their major food groups, but for some reason they kept it long after the bet was over.

Gort posted:

https://twitter.com/elmer_dudd/status/871845019560312833

Sorry guys, I think I have to vote Tory now.

Steve2911 posted:

I just love that in the age of smartphones he couldn't find a camera that filmed in more than 240p. Like he actually dug out a Panasonic his wife bought him in 2004.

staberind posted:

Nah, they had to reduce the resolution because his primal "fygm" sexual energy turns men like myself gay for pay.

big scary monsters posted:

I don't think that this young person is going to be able to vote, my postal ballot hasn't reached me yet and even if it turns up tomorrow I think it might be too late. My constituency has a huge SNP majority with Labour in distant second (Tories got 7% in 2015 lol), so I guess it won't matter.

Pissflaps posted:

When Corbyn fails to defeat the worst Tory campaign in living memory it will take a brave person to continue insisting I am wrong.