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Brainiac Five posted:
That's a statement i can get behind. edit: well actually it's a statement I've never opposed so yea.
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NewForumSoftware posted:When they passed legislation like the Civil Rights Act? I mean when was the last real major anti-racist legislation even written? well john conyers has introduced every year since 1989 a bill to create a commission and study reparations also are we pretending lily ledbetter didn't happen, nice
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This thread is like when I had no friends as a kid and would play 2-player Nintendo games by myself, switching between controllers to simulate competition. But no one ever walked in on me doing it. Because I had a sense of shame.
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Brainiac Five posted:and additionally that you make an endless ocean of shitposts that the good-cop Majorians and Ytlayas and so on don't dare condemn Oh bullshit, I just told NewForumsSoftware that he was being an idiot two pages ago. I've done the same thing frequently throughout this thread. Quit whining.
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EugeneJ posted:This thread is like when I had no friends as a kid and would play 2-player Nintendo games by myself, switching between controllers to simulate competition. So do you still believe black people didn't vote for Bernie because their corrupt pastors hypnotized them? Because the evidence suggests you don't have a sense of shame.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:36
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stone cold posted:also are we pretending lily ledbetter didn't happen, nice lily ledbetter is not anti-racist policy
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stone cold posted:well john conyers has introduced every year since 1989 a bill to create a commission and study reparations good on him but he's just a single congressman. I'd support his bill but good luck getting congress to vote yes on it quote:also are we pretending lily ledbetter didn't happen, nice Women are actually not a race and the lily ledbetter act was comically tame. If that's worth comparing to the emancipation proclamation or the civil rights act of '67 your standards are just much lower than mine.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:36
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Majorian posted:Oh bullshit, I just told NewForumsSoftware that he was being an idiot just a couple posts ago. Quit whining. Ah, I see wifey has let you out of the headlock.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:36
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Class action allows antiracism to be actualized, demanding that all participants be first 'sufficiently enlightened' before you allow them on board, is to deny them the opportunity to change at all, and to empower the opposition. It is when people work together in spite of their differences, and then discover that their mutual fear was unfounded, that real progress is made. Idpol divides people and then keeps them divided, that creates weakness.
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WampaLord posted:lily ledbetter is not anti-racist policy Requiring equal pay for equal work isn't antiracist? Hmm... Anyways, it's a major civil rights bill unless you're a guy who jokes about sex slavery.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:38
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Brainiac Five posted:Requiring equal pay for equal work isn't antiracist? Hmm... Women are not a race, words mean things.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:39
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Brainiac Five posted:Requiring equal pay for equal work isn't antiracist? That's actually not what the Lilly Ledbetter act does though Granted, it would have been pretty loving awesome if it actually did that
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rudatron posted:Class action allows antiracism to be actualized, demanding that all participants be first 'sufficiently enlightened' before you allow them on board, is to deny them the opportunity to change at all, and to empower the opposition. And now you're arguing that nonwhites are just as racist as white people. And a bold step into cartoonish totalitarianism as well, though whether you're finally going fash remains to be seen.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:40
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WampaLord posted:Women are not a race, words mean things. So you're going to get hung up on race over civil rights, and tacitly admit that a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage isn't antiracist.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:41
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Brainiac Five posted:Ah, I see wifey has let you out of the headlock. My wife's an incredible kind and gentle person who doesn't physically, verbally, or emotionally abuse anyone. Also, please stop talking about my wife, thanks.
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WampaLord posted:lily ledbetter is not anti-racist policy women's rights aren't civil rights, nice NewForumSoftware posted:good on him but he's just a single congressman. I'd support his bill but good luck getting congress to vote yes on it women's rights aren't civil rights, nice
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Jun 6, 2017 01:43
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Majorian posted:My wife's an incredible kind and gentle person who doesn't physically, verbally, or emotionally abuse anyone. Also, please stop talking about my wife, thanks. It sounds like you typed this with a gun to your head, tbh.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:44
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stone cold posted:women's rights aren't civil rights, nice Words mean things. I wish the Lily Ledbetter act had more teeth to it, and I'm fully in favor of women earning equal pay. It's not an anti-racist piece of legislation.
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stone cold posted:women's rights aren't civil rights, nice I honestly don't care if you think women are a race I'm just pointing out that there hasn't been any landmark civil rights legislation period. Lilly Ledbetter was expanding the window upon which you could sue your employer for wage discrimination. It was not "equal pay for equal work".
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legislating to help close the pay gap will surely have no impact on poc women, the worst paid poc women aren't women and their rights aren't civil rights, nice
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Majorian posted:My wife's an incredible kind and gentle person who doesn't physically, verbally, or emotionally abuse anyone. Also, please stop talking about my wife, thanks. You're the one who decided to tell me your wife would beat me up, and I really don't care if she Stone Cold Stunners you again. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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stone cold posted:legislating to help close the pay gap will surely have no impact on poc women, the worst paid woah this is dangerously close to admitting $15/hr is anti-racist policy again, lilly ledbetter is a good thing, but it's not landmark civil rights legislation, as much as Obama and his supporters pretended it was
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Brainiac Five posted:So you're going to get hung up on race over civil rights, and tacitly admit that a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage isn't antiracist. A 20-dollar minimum wage would be more antiracist, but that would cost your friends money now wouldn't it Do you support a 20-dollar minimum wage?
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rudatron posted:Class action allows antiracism to be actualized, demanding that all participants be first 'sufficiently enlightened' before you allow them on board, is to deny them the opportunity to change at all, and to empower the opposition. I like this sentence. Anyway, i'm out. Have fun splitting hairs, being contrarian and never accomplishing anything ever!
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Jun 6, 2017 01:47
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EugeneJ posted:A 20-dollar minimum wage would be more antiracist, but that would cost your friends money now wouldn't it $20/hr is still too low.
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NewForumSoftware posted:woah this is dangerously close to admitting $15/hr is anti-racist policy women were the only people mentioned in title vii -a smart person
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Jun 6, 2017 01:48
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Brainiac Five posted:$20/hr is still too low. What do you suggest
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EugeneJ posted:What do you suggest index it to median wages
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Brainiac Five posted:She hasn't strangled any DSA members to death, so no, she does NOT represent my values. Answer the question. Brainiac Five posted:The CRA of 1964 also didn't have majority public support until it was passed, and a year later a majority of Americans either believed the USSR controlled the Civil Rights Movement or were unsure. Is this a part of a broader argument for representative democracy or just an argument against democracy?
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stone cold posted:index it to median wages You forgot to switch tabs, fishmech
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Jun 6, 2017 01:49
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stone cold posted:women were the only people mentioned in title vii Again, do you think expanding the window during which you could sue your employer for wage discrimination (lmao at the idea that anyone making less than six figures is going to be able to use the legal system to pursue this) is landmark civil rights legislation? also, bernie voted for it so  stone cold posted:index it to median wages 
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EugeneJ posted:You forgot to switch tabs, fishmech 
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Brainiac Five posted:You're the one who decided to tell me your wife would beat me up, and I really don't care if she Stone Cold Stunners you again. Well, that's terrific that you think domestic abuse is something that's okay for you to repeatedly make light of.
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Brainiac Five posted:$20/hr is still too low. $20 federal?
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Jun 6, 2017 01:50
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EugeneJ posted:What do you suggest $25/hr, indexed to median wages, GMI gradually transferring to Basic Income. And guaranteed access to affordable housing and free universal childcare and a nationalized healthcare, pharmaceutical, and medical device system.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:51
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NewForumSoftware posted:Again, do you think expanding the window during which you could sue your employer for wage discrimination (lmao at the idea that anyone making less than six figures is going to be able to use the legal system to pursue this) is landmark civil rights legislation? we weren't talking about bernie at this point and every fuckin step matters you fuckin prick or are you the type of person who think rosa parks was the first to resist bus segregation and that the civil rights movement legislation wise didn't start until 1964 
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Jun 6, 2017 01:52
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Brainiac Five posted:$25/hr, indexed to median wages, GMI gradually transferring to Basic Income. And guaranteed access to affordable housing and free universal childcare and a nationalized healthcare, pharmaceutical, and medical device system. also clean food and water
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stone cold posted:every fuckin step matters you fuckin prick I mean, I agree with you, but that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that civil rights legislation has been absolute poo poo for the past 40 years and the Democrats can and should do better. Not choosing the candidate who coined the term superpredators as their 2016 nominee would have been a good start.
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Jun 6, 2017 01:54
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Majorian posted:Well, that's terrific that you think domestic abuse is something that's okay for you to repeatedly make light of. Oh so it's not consensual when you get powerbombed through the table?
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Brainiac Five posted:$25/hr, indexed to median wages, GMI gradually transferring to Basic Income. And guaranteed access to affordable housing and free universal childcare and a nationalized healthcare, pharmaceutical, and medical device system. It's a good start. But we will also have to abolish private property.
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