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Spaced God posted:The gist of it, if you really want deets, is that the source printed out NSA docs on an NSA printer and emailed it from her work email to the Intercept. They posted these scans, forgetting that printers put microdots on everything they print with their serial number etc. So the NSA saw those microdots and also the fact that it was sent from a work email and were like "oh we know exactly who this is" even if printers didn't do it by default, it would be stupid as gently caress to risk your source's freedom on the assumption the nsa hasn't thought to implement some similar steg
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terrorist ambulance posted:So the theory of his middle East trip being connected to the Qatar / SA rift is confirmed. On a long enough time line he really is going to confirm absolutely every theory about him by posting proof of them on Twitter Prostitutes were peeing on bed, not me! Do not listen to FAKE MSM!
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haveblue posted:They revealed enough of the leaked information to their government contacts that it allowed the internal investigation to pinpoint who had given it to them. they also published the full pdf scan of the documents with the article giving it to their government contacts just speeded up the process by like four days
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The moral of the story is to leak your Trump secrets to a real news outlet and not a bucket of fuckheads.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:he'll eventually see the Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns blocks out the sun... I'm fine with this as long as it ends the same way
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evilweasel posted:even if printers didn't do it by default, it would be stupid as gently caress to risk your source's freedom on the assumption the nsa hasn't thought to implement some similar steg If they would have just converted the scan to monochrome and posted it that would have been fine, right?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:It's great how bad Trump is at the rudimentary practice of being a politician See, I was afraid that the moment Trump was elected he would morph into a normal suit politician, speaking only through prepared statements created by smart, highly-paid people to be hard to disagree with, and efficiently enacting horrible legislation at a frightening rate. Instead we're kind of in that "We shouldn't assassinate Hitler because his incompetence is dragging down the nazis" place where if he was gone the world would get worse faster as he's occupying a space a competent fuckhead might fill.
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EugeneJ posted:If they would have just converted the scan to monochrome and posted it that would have been fine, right? Or I don't know, don't scan it at such a ridiculously high resolution that the 1200 dpi microdots are visible? jfc. Things were so much easier when they used to just type up a "letter" in Word and say it was from a 1971 typewriter
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Drone posted:What's up with the current White House counsel, btw? Is he a dyed-in-the-wool Trumpist or is he just another bureaucrat doing a job? I don't think McGahn is a Trumpist but he is a republican hack. He used to work for Tom DeLay.
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Data Graham posted:Or I don't know, don't scan it at such a ridiculously high resolution that the 1200 dpi microdots are visible? jfc. or just publish the words in the doc instead of the actual effing scans
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Or just do what EVERY OTHER loving JOURNALIST DOES and just describe information from the document after verifying the information by read-out to another source. Why would you ever loving post the original in ANY form? e: Oh and after your publication pushes the original document, make sure to publicly question its validity. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/871832554604818432 JehovahsWetness fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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EugeneJ posted:If they would have just converted the scan to monochrome and posted it that would have been fine, right? it would probably have become more obvious but they might have missed it the correct thing to do would have been to recreate the documents themselves: OCR it, format everything on a fresh document, remake the graphics, that way any hidden information gets wiped out JehovahsWetness posted:Or just do what EVERY OTHER loving JOURNALIST DOES and just describe information from the document after verifying the information by read-out to another source. Why would you ever loving post the original in ANY form? or that
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I think Trump's incompetence has weakened the government much more than any policy he could have enacted. The man simply does not care to do anything productive, even by Republican standards. The next president is going to have a much more difficult time than Obama did following Bush in restoring credibility abroad
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JehovahsWetness posted:Or just do what EVERY OTHER loving JOURNALIST DOES and just describe information from the document after verifying the information by read-out to another source. Why would you ever loving post the original in ANY form? 
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I think the warrant just says the scan they sent was obviously from a printer copy (as it had a folded crease in it). Only 6 people printed out that document, and only one of them had subscribed to a podcast from the Intercept from their work computer.
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Also make sure to relay important information about your source to the person you're using the verify the content of the document. That'll really help narrow the scope.
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NPR had someone from the intercept on this morning and I'm a little disappointed the host didn't mention/question the circumstances that led to Winner's arrest.
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evilweasel posted:absolutely, by doing something so stupid that, and i am not exaggerating here, mid-tier alliances in eve online, a spreadsheet simulator, know not to do Ugh that is loving horrible.
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a site that built it's reputation off the back of working with Assange is bad, what a surprise
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Javes posted:NPR had someone from the intercept on this morning and I'm a little disappointed the host didn't mention/question the circumstances that led to Winner's arrest. That's just Reality
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How does steganography come up in Eve Online
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:How does steganography come up in Eve Online nothing in real life will ever be taken as seriously as things done in eve online
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evilweasel posted:absolutely, by doing something so stupid that, and i am not exaggerating here, mid-tier alliances in eve online, a spreadsheet simulator, know not to do
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:How does steganography come up in Eve Online They leave messages for each other in-game, apparently It's like they found a way to Geocache without leaving their house
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EugeneJ posted:They leave messages for each other in-game, apparently Ok I guess that makes sense, online dead drops, ok I was just curious about the mechanics
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It actually came up when a big organization started having leaks in the form of screenshots of forum posts detailing plans and operations that were supposed to be kept secret, so they altered the forum software to add subtle markings to every page that could be used to determine who took a particular screenshot.
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Xombie posted:This will go down as the worst executed conspiracy in American history. John Oliver's description of it as "Stupid Watergate" becomes more and more apt every day.
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BattleMaster posted:It actually came up when a big organization started having leaks in the form of screenshots of forum posts detailing plans and operations that were supposed to be kept secret, so they altered the forum software to add subtle markings to every page that could be used to determine who took a particular screenshot. Hahaha ok, that makes even more sense. Truly evolution in action.
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BattleMaster posted:It actually came up when a big organization started having leaks in the form of screenshots of forum posts detailing plans and operations that were supposed to be kept secret, so they altered the forum software to add subtle markings to every page that could be used to determine who took a particular screenshot. not only this but the forum software would replace certain words with synonyms and keep track of what user saw what version of a particular post, so even copy and pasting the text would give you away
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Trasson posted:John Oliver's description of it as "Stupid Watergate" becomes more and more apt every day. History repeating as farce.
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EVE is just an incredible sink for human ingenuity, I'm just not sure if it would otherwise be used to the benefit of mankind or to create new malware, and hentai distribution platforms
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quote:The original hand-dubbed tapes were distributed by Reznor to various friends with dropouts at certain points so he could know who distributed any copies that might surface. Reznor, commenting in the "Access" section of the NIN website, implied that Gibby Haynes was responsible for the most prominent leak This has also been a thing with copyrighted video torrents for quite some time.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:How does steganography come up in Eve Online Spy catching. Most alliances have steg on their forums to catch leakers. You can't share screenshots of forums as a result without burning your spy.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:How does steganography come up in Eve Online goonfleet directors are hurf blurf as gently caress
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shrike82 posted:lol i didn't realize scarborough and mika got engaged. That's what killed Zbignew.
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repeating posted:Thanks for the tech-y talk. I appreciate that. It comes down to basically "don't ever send the physical document or an image of it or use the exact wording" , yeah? It's all a balance. Any news org worth its salt will want to see the actual document so they can verify it isn't a fake and that they aren't being hosed with. They will likely be understanding if you are reluctant to give it to them but that means they will have to verify it more throughly via other sources which could up the danger of you being outed. I'm not sure if the Canary Trap method of slightly modifying the wording of documents is used for anything but actual sting operations. In important documents a lot of work goes into choosing the right wording to convey exactly the intended meaning and prevent misinterpretations, and some sort of automatic rewording would completely ruin that. The real lesson here is "Don't leak to the Intercept or really any organization involving Glenn Greenwald". Likewise Wikileaks has been known to no give a gently caress who gets burned by their releases.
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Goa Tse-tung posted:goonfleet directors are hurf blurf as gently caress The best decision I ever made was not to play Eve when my friend started to play and was bugging me to join him.
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The Intercept hosed up. So did the leaker by even leaking that document. I REALLY don't want that to be lost here. There is a difference between whistleblowing and straight up leaking classified intel.
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https://twitter.com/realpresssecbot/status/872085930890338304 https://twitter.com/realpresssecbot/status/872087188841701376
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Boon posted:The Intercept hosed up. I'm much more concerned about over-classification than I am about leaks.
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