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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
This poll is closed.
Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


She was pro remain but not as vocal as most of the big names.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Been trying to convince a relative to vote Corbyn on Facebook and thought I was getting somewhere. Then I got this:


I... uh.. whuh..?

How do people get to be our age while being this dumb?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Been trying to convince a relative to vote Corbyn on Facebook and thought I was getting somewhere. Then I got this:


I... uh.. whuh..?

Does this person not understand how politics works or what?

Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Been trying to convince a relative to vote Corbyn on Facebook and thought I was getting somewhere. Then I got this:


I... uh.. whuh..?

It's like when Yeltsin wanted to join NATO. Try ordering them a pizza.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Been trying to convince a relative to vote Corbyn on Facebook and thought I was getting somewhere. Then I got this:


I... uh.. whuh..?

thinking of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Government_(United_Kingdom), maybe. especially the interwar years

analphabetic
Nov 10, 2009
Just had a look on Facebook, and.... it seems to be full of people posting stuff about the mayor of London being a terrorist supporter.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Uh, Paul Nuttall just advocated for young Muslim girls to have regular mandatory genital inspections.

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

Darth Walrus posted:

Remember that Abbott initially had a total nothing job in Corbyn's cabinet, and slowly fell upwards thanks to all the resignations. If a good GE performance gets more of the PLP back on-side, I can see a reshuffle in the works.

Who in the PLP should replace Abbott as Home Secretary in a hypothetical Labour government?

I agree Abbott needs to be demoted and a unity cabinet would be the right angle, but there has to be some consequences for the coup and general PLP petulance.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

analphabetic posted:

Just had a look on Facebook, and.... it seems to be full of people posting stuff about the mayor of London being a terrorist supporter.

Surely if London is now a muslamic jihad sharia enclave he's running a false flag op by terrorisming it???

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

CoolCab posted:

the leadership could never go to anyone who was staunchly Remain or Leave, too much blood left in the water after that campaign. may cinched it by hedging her bets and not picking a side before the vote, which lead to the farce of party leader and prime minister with no competency at campaigning.

this has proven problematic. she'll never face a GE again, I'd wager

Theresa's Team

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Uh, Paul Nuttall just advocated for young Muslim girls to have regular mandatory genital inspections.

I think this is actually in their manifesto

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Uh, Paul Nuttall just advocated for young Muslim girls to have regular mandatory genital inspections.

loving hell

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

:getin:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/872083892521635842

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Uh, Paul Nuttall just advocated for young Muslim girls to have regular mandatory genital inspections.

I bet he volunteered as inspector

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

spectralent posted:

Just got a letter from the tories asking me to "Strengthen May's Brexit Hand". I knew she'd been thinking about brexit a lot but I didn't think that was the reason.
Write back and recommend a mix of farmer's carries, dead hangs and those squeezy ball things.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

WeAreTheRomans posted:

I bet he volunteered as inspector

I found his uniform

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

OwlFancier posted:

She was pro remain but not as vocal as most of the big names.

And she made a bunch of "I'm Remain but boy it works be nice to get rid of the EU's human rights court" style statements - again, she had the savvy to hedge her bets. The field then came down to sore losers and triumphant liars who couldn't possibly deliver and May who hadn't pissed anyone off.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/ptr_yeung/status/872084991290880000

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Mr. Flunchy posted:

Been trying to convince a relative to vote Corbyn on Facebook and thought I was getting somewhere. Then I got this:


I... uh.. whuh..?

Does your relative grow their own or just buy in job lots of weapons grade skunk?

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Oberleutnant posted:

lol at this article

I think they missed one or two minor points in that summing up of the situation.
They did, but the point stands. Britain is massively centralised compared to every other advanced country. One reason the North has been left to rot for so long is councils and cities have no power to do anything about it, so you're entirely reliant on begging money and political attention from Westminster. And even with the best will in the world (which of course we haven't had) Whitehall has only so much cognitive bandwidth and will never have as good an understanding of the situation on the ground.

It's a little better than it was now we have devolved governments and city mayors. But if you want a contrast, look at America. After Trump pulled or out of the Paris agreement a bunch of states that collectively make up something like 40% of US GDP said "lol gently caress you we'll implement Paris ourselves". That's just unimaginable in Britain because local government is toothless.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
It sounds like they're advocating a one-party state where the press is not allowed to criticise The Party.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Zephro posted:

They did, but the point stands. Britain is massively centralised compared to every other advanced country. One reason the North has been left to rot for so long is councils and cities have no power to do anything about it, so you're entirely reliant on begging money and political attention from Westminster. And even with the best will in the world (which of course we haven't had) Whitehall has only so much cognitive bandwidth and will never have as good an understanding of the situation on the ground.

It's a little better than it was now we have devolved governments and city mayors. But if you want a contrast, look at America. After Trump pulled or out of the Paris agreement a bunch of states that collectively make up something like 40% of US GDP said "lol gently caress you we'll implement Paris ourselves". That's just unimaginable in Britain because local government is toothless.

It doesn't help that the attitude, sometimes by people in this thread, is "if you're successful you'll just move down south anyway". Way to miss the point. Which is that there shouldn't be a reason successful people flee from part of what is a relatively small nation. You fix the loving problem!

edit: aggression not directed at anyone in particular.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
"A population is easier to manage when it is divided. Labour and Tory should unite for the common good then the public would be harder to manipulate as the press wouldn't be biased anymore. By having people argue between one another and take sides between them leaves no room for progressive conversations and listening."

Why can't everyone just get in a room together and sort it aaaaaaaaaaaaaaht

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Sassy Corbyn is easily one of the best things about this election.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Zephro posted:

It's a little better than it was now we have devolved governments and city mayors
I don't think it is, I think it's often an excuse to not spend money on things by councils whenever it happens, because the additional layers of bureaucracy are so politicised that councils stop doing things when there is an overlapping agency, because they are worried about their high-performing teams getting hived off to it, and they know they won't get the credit.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Today's yougov model update:

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/872031118995935232

Their predicted numbers (from their website) are 304 CON, 266 LAB, 46 SNP

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Uh, Paul Nuttall just advocated for young Muslim girls to have regular mandatory genital inspections.
christ almighty

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Cefte posted:

He was in a strong position immediately after the referendum, and blew it between Friday and Monday by not putting in the legwork with the '22 and his potential Parliamentary power base. Instead he stayed home and celebrated, and the field opened. Then Gove put the knife in him the morning of the day he was going to formally announce, but it was already too late. He always had an air of being unserious, but loving about for those three days confirmed it.

I thought he stayed home and shat himself because he wasn't expecting us to actually Leave; he was gearing up for a run in a few years against or after Cameron.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

analphabetic posted:

Just had a look on Facebook, and.... it seems to be full of people posting stuff about the mayor of London being a terrorist supporter.

you have quality friends

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Gort posted:

It sounds like they're advocating a one-party state where the press is not allowed to criticise The Party.

*starts painting on Stalin moustache* I'm ready

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Regarde Aduck posted:

It doesn't help that the attitude, sometimes by people in this thread, is "if you're successful you'll just move down south anyway". Way to miss the point. Which is that there shouldn't be a reason successful people flee from part of what is a relatively small nation. You fix the loving problem!

edit: aggression not directed at anyone in particular.

I remember bashing my head against the seat in front of me during a QA with Blair Jenkins when a law student at Aberdeen uni said "all of the good legal jobs are in London, won't independence make it much harder for me to move there and get a job?" and just argh.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Spuckuk posted:

Does your relative grow their own or just buy in job lots of weapons grade skunk?

Hahaha, he grows his own.

He's also a proud non-voter and self described free thinker. Previous greatest hits have included boycotting the water company and proceeding to poo poo and piss in his own back garden for weeks in protest.

That sure showed 'em!

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY

TheRat posted:

Their predicted numbers (from their website) are 304 CON, 266 LAB, 46 SNP

Well thats nice.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Cerv posted:

you have quality friends

Don't we all? Before I pretty much stopped using Facebook I decided to start deleting 'friends' who were openly racist. I removed like 100 people I knew fairly well in the space of a few months.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Ora Tzo posted:

Well thats nice.

Bear in mind they're the only poll claiming anything close to those numbers. Grains of salt, mountains of salt.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

TheRat posted:

Today's yougov model update:

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/872031118995935232

Their predicted numbers (from their website) are 304 CON, 266 LAB, 46 SNP

Please stop giving me the hope that I know is a lie.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Tesseraction posted:

Bear in mind they're the only poll claiming anything close to those numbers. Grains of salt, mountains of salt.

Well apart from Survation, yeah

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Zephro posted:

They did, but the point stands. Britain is massively centralised compared to every other advanced country. One reason the North has been left to rot for so long is councils and cities have no power to do anything about it, so you're entirely reliant on begging money and political attention from Westminster. And even with the best will in the world (which of course we haven't had) Whitehall has only so much cognitive bandwidth and will never have as good an understanding of the situation on the ground.

It's a little better than it was now we have devolved governments and city mayors. But if you want a contrast, look at America. After Trump pulled or out of the Paris agreement a bunch of states that collectively make up something like 40% of US GDP said "lol gently caress you we'll implement Paris ourselves". That's just unimaginable in Britain because local government is toothless.

decentralization is the wrong answer to this problem, since what you're asking for is interregional transfers, not regional control over revenue raised in it

no amount of devolved control allows Northumberland to vote that London give it more money

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Tesseraction posted:

Bear in mind they're the only poll claiming anything close to those numbers. Grains of salt, mountains of salt.

Survation's online and phone polls were similar.

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Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
That Yougov model just goes to show how ultimately hosed-up our political system is. SNP gets 4% of the vote, and gets 46 MPs. Lib Dems get 9% of the vote, and get 12 MPs. Twice the voters. A quarter of the representation.

Fake edit: gently caress, that's not even the worst of it. UKIP gets the same vote share as the SNP, but gets no MPs at all, while Plaid Cymru gets 0% of the vote and gets twice the MPs the Greens get on 2%

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