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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
This poll is closed.
Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

The DPRK posted:

Do we have a place for facebookfriends.txt? Got some loving horrendous passages to add including this gem:

Unironically - sever.

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DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

The DPRK posted:

Do we have a place for facebookfriends.txt? Got some loving horrendous passages to add including this gem:

A: reply with [citation required]
B: delete your facebook, good for your health

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

The DPRK posted:

Do we have a place for facebookfriends.txt? Got some loving horrendous passages to add including this gem:
Lol we're like the least generous country in Western Europe, but whatevs.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Pissflaps posted:

....you don't think the Tory vote will be boosted in seats where UKIP have chosen not to stand?

Of course some does, but over time the effect has significantly changed:

https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/869579928936820738

Sure, if this was a marginal it would be something to consider, but as it stands your contention is naïve.

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



The DPRK posted:

Do we have a place for facebookfriends.txt? Got some loving horrendous passages to add including this gem:

sever

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009


swass stickers

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Tesseraction posted:

Of course some does, but over time the effect has significantly changed:

https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/869579928936820738

Sure, if this was a marginal it would be something to consider, but as it stands your contention is naïve.

Does that final bar chart show 2015 UKIP voters voting more for the Tory party than anyone else?

I'm not sure how this disproves what I just said? In fact, you just seem to have proved my point?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
First final poll?

https://twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/872111387694292992

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Pissflaps posted:

Does that final bar chart show 2015 UKIP voters voting more for the Tory party than anyone else?

I'm not sure how this disproves what I just said? In fact, you just seem to have proved my point?

Only if you don't understand how numbers work. I said if it was a marginal the effect might be of note but Skinner is in a historically safe seat and this is compounded by him voting to Leave. Has the bolding of my key points made it clearer why your analysis that "No UKIP -> Tory boost" is naïve, at least in the context of a seat such as Skinner's?

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

The DPRK posted:

Do we have a place for facebookfriends.txt? Got some loving horrendous passages to add including this gem:

wow

I don't get too many really dodgy ones. Had this from a guy after Manchester which made me laugh because it's peak 'I'm not racist but...':

quote:

Now I'm not racist, nor am I stereotypical....all muslims arnt terrorists but as of late all terrorists seem to be Muslim. You can't blame us for being cautious other muslims. If a dog attacked you would you then not be weary of all dogs....just saying #prayformanchester🙏🏻

There's also a bunch of people who seem to have bought wholesale into neoliberal 'American Dream' ideology who keep posting shite about how people need to stop moaning about the minimum wage and just work harder and they will be rewarded which is pretty loving dumb as I know most of them work entry level retail jobs. False consciousness up the wazoo.

Few genuinely poor hating Tory sociopaths mind, but I guess that's part for the course in the North/Scotland where most people I know are from.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Tesseraction posted:

Only if you don't understand how numbers work. I said if it was a marginal the effect might be of note but Skinner is in a historically safe seat and this is compounded by him voting to Leave. Has the bolding of my key points made it clearer why your analysis that "No UKIP -> Tory boost" is naïve, at least in the context of a seat such as Skinner's?

Your bolding adds useful emphasis but given the data you have provided, my own research, and the result of this seat in the last election,
I'm confident in maintaining that labour will benefit most from UKIP standing a candidate in Bolsover.

Mackers
Jan 16, 2012
Stephen Hawking announces he is voting Labour: 'The Tories would be a disaster'

quote:

Stephen Hawking, regularly referred to as the world's smartest man, has backed Jeremy Corbyn.

The Conservatives would be a "disaster" for public services, the world-renowned astrophysicist said.

“I’m voting Labour because another five years of Conservative government would be a disaster for the NHS, the police and other public services," he said, after a meeting with Cambridge MP Daniel Zeichner.

Pfff, like anyone cares what the world's smartest man thinks anyway. He don't have street smarts!

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Random Integer posted:

The SNP only get 4% of the total vote but they only stand in 9% of the total constituencies. Seems a pretty representative outcome to me. Its interesting how this only suddenly becomes an issue for many people when the SNP is involved.

are you on crack?

if you pull out subsets of constituencies with that logic you could easily pick and choose the best for each party and come out with more than 100% of MPs total

Cerv fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Jun 6, 2017

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxtKI6DlAEI

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.
I just remembered this was made in 2010:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/weirdnewsvideo/7610797/Making-your-mind-up.html

Edit: Featuring Greg Knight!

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

ThomasPaine posted:

There's also a bunch of people who seem to have bought wholesale into neoliberal 'American Dream' ideology who keep posting shite about how people need to stop moaning about the minimum wage and just work harder and they will be rewarded which is pretty loving dumb as I know most of them work entry level retail jobs. False consciousness up the wazoo.

Do they not look at the world around them and notice that the dudes working two jobs are always dirt poor and the dudes who are rich inherited Australia's coal mining industry or were given their first million to "give them a good start"

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVBdUL4FLtw

That's a pretty decent crowd for a loving miserable day.

Tha_Joker_GAmer
Aug 16, 2006

The DPRK posted:

Do we have a place for facebookfriends.txt? Got some loving horrendous passages to add including this gem:

easier to punch down than up and people love a sense of self-righteous anger, I wonder what his opinion on tax havens is.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
According to current polls, Tory net gains on UKIP vote only puts about 10 seats at risk. But my intuition would be that people who went Lab > UKIP are a little bit less likely to go Con than people who went Con > UKIP or DNV > UKIP and so we might see a smaller effect in Labour seats and a bigger effect in Tory seats. I wouldn't be surprised if we see the Tories pipping 70% in places like Boston (despite the discoverer of DNA, Paul Nuttall, standing there).

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Gort posted:

or were given their first million to "give them a good start"
I know this guy IRL. His granda gave him £1million for his 16th birthday present back in like the 1970s.

Tigey
Apr 6, 2015

Liu posted:

easier to punch down than up and people love a sense of self-righteous anger, I wonder what his opinion on tax havens is.

Most people just lap up any narrative that heavily flatters them.

The DPRK
Nov 18, 2006

Lipstick Apathy

Liu posted:

easier to punch down than up and people love a sense of self-righteous anger, I wonder what his opinion on tax havens is.

Not sure I follow his logic, but here it is...

quote:

He wants to tax the rich and business's more... how can he tax them more when all of a sudden they have opened off shore accounts, he will destroy it for England because no business's will pay the increase they will simply go else where

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

Kokoro Wish posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVBdUL4FLtw

That's a pretty decent crowd for a loving miserable day.

There's a bunch of rallies tonight apparently:

quote:

The Labour party has put out a press notice saying Jeremy Corbyn will “address six simultaneous rallies across the UK” tonight at 7pm.

They haven’t mastered cloning yet. Corbyn will be speaking at the Birmingham event, and he will be broadcast by satellite at the other five in Barry, Brighton, Glasgow, London and Warrington.

According to Labour, other people appearing at the events include “members of Labour’s shadow cabinet, big-name electronic acts Clean Bandit and DJ Floating Points, celebrity supporters Steve Coogan, Ben Elton and Maxine Peak, and chart-toppers Wolf Alice and Reverend and the Makers”.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

The DPRK posted:

Not sure I follow his logic, but here it is...

Let him know that Bulgaria already has a way lower corporation tax, so why wouldn't they just go there?

Also point out Labour's proposed corporation tax is lower than it was in 2010, after the worst of the financial crisis had come to pass.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

The DPRK posted:

Not sure I follow his logic, but here it is...

He's deeply loving stupid, there's no logic to follow.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Mackers posted:


Pfff, like anyone cares what the world's smartest man thinks anyway. He don't have street smarts!

You say this jokingly but one good at the world will point out exactly that the tories will win because the people who vote for them HATE you and your intelligence.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Anyone got a link for that supposedly awesome new labour party political broadcast yet? I'm out of country with only an iPad and can't iPlayer it.

The DPRK
Nov 18, 2006

Lipstick Apathy
Since everyone seems to be enjoying these (I use the word loosely):

quote:

Basically boys, the way it goes is this, the Educated understand that the Conservatives are the only party who can actually run a country, if you look back at all the most recent recessions they where directly during or after a Labour party government. The trouble is the uneducated forget this and vote labour because Corbyn says he'l give them 5 days more holiday and free university education. So you can't blame labour voters for following labour. They know no better, and haven't got the foresight to understand the cost to the economy and brexit if labour actually end up running the country.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
All big businesses already tax evade as much as they can. The answer to that is not to throw your hands up and say, "Well, guess taxing rich people is too hard, cut all public services", the answer is to properly fund the agencies that crack down on tax evasion and legislate to close tax loopholes and prevent offshoring.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Gort posted:

All big businesses already tax evade as much as they can. The answer to that is not to throw your hands up and say, "Well, guess taxing rich people is too hard, cut all public services", the answer is to properly fund the agencies that crack down on tax evasion and legislate to close tax loopholes and prevent offshoring.

But if you do that they'll just leave and you'll have nothing as opposed to the little you get now. Clearly this'll never work.

e: I'm fine with seizing the assets of people/companies who leave because of taxes. Tell me why this is a bad idea, UKMT.

Miftan fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jun 6, 2017

Benjamin Arthur
Nov 7, 2012

Jakabite posted:

Yeah it's tiring reading the constant posts taking obvious smug glee in anything that might be bad for Corbyn, followed by the occasional disingenuous 'oo but I do hope I'm wrong!' No one loving believes you. You don't want Labour to win but you just can't bring yourself to admit that you're a Tory. It's laughable, especially when you spend such a significant proportion of you're life in this thread.

Anyway, youth debate tonight. I submitted a question about shoot to kill, basically summing up what it actually is (summary execution of suspected terrorists posing no active threat with no attempt to arrest), and then asking if in light of this the panel supports such a policy?

E: if it wasn't obvious that first paragraph was directed at Pissflaps.

E2: and if some internet strangers telling you to gently caress off with being a disingenuous prick is enough to make you change your vote then just lol, get some principles.

Careful now. You need to read the rules regarding "Pissflaps and you" or else our Tankie mod will put you on probation.

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c0burn
Sep 2, 2003

The KKKing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7iUYWMD77w

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

The DPRK posted:

Since everyone seems to be enjoying these (I use the word loosely):

But that's the opposite of how it went in 2015 - people with more education (in the formal sense of the word) are less likely for conservatives than those with less formal education.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/06/08/general-election-2015-how-britain-really-voted/ statistics after the 2015 election

And polls sugest the same thing will happen this time

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/demographics-dividing-britain/

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
So apprently there's been a leak about plans for the NHS: https://www.hsj.co.uk/topics/financ...7018461.article (anybody able to read this?)

I can't find any mainstream media coverage of it. Labour has a press release about it here but it doesn't give much detail.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

hookerbot 5000 posted:

But that's the opposite of how it went in 2015 - people with more education (in the formal sense of the word) are less likely for conservatives than those with less formal education.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/06/08/general-election-2015-how-britain-really-voted/ statistics after the 2015 election

And polls sugest the same thing will happen this time

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/demographics-dividing-britain/

*twitches*

c...ch...champagne COSMOPOLITAN ISLINGTON CLIQUE SOCIALISTS

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Dennis Skinner just told everyone that the problem with Eastern Europeans and displaced people coming over here these days is that they are not joining unions, so they can't be helped by them to get fair treatment and wages, and that it's people like (Sports directs) Mike Ashley's fault that there is antagonism.

He's the hero we need but do not deserve.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Zephro posted:

Lol we're like the least generous country in Western Europe, but whatevs.
This is actually not true, although the fact that it's a constant paranoia of the people of the UK that they're being too mean is a Good Thing.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

learnincurve posted:

Dennis Skinner just told everyone that the problem with Eastern Europeans and displaced people coming over here these days is that they are not joining unions, so they can't be helped by them to get fair treatment and wages, and that it's people like (Sports directs) Mike Ashley's fault that there is antagonism.
Sounds like a very nuanced kind of xenophobia.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

jBrereton posted:

This is actually not true, although the fact that it's a constant paranoia of the people of the UK that they're being too mean is a Good Thing.
I meant for government welfare spending.

This has a bunch of charts covering the OECD, but a lot of the figures are from several years ago so probably aren't that current any more:

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/11/27/2053392/welfare-spending-across-the-oecd/

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Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



The DPRK posted:

Since everyone seems to be enjoying these (I use the word loosely):

quote:

Basically boys, the way it goes is this, the Educated understand that the Conservatives are the only party who can actually run a country, if you look back at all the most recent recessions they where directly during or after a Labour party government. The trouble is the uneducated forget this and vote labour because Corbyn says he'l give them 5 days more holiday and free university education. So you can't blame labour voters for following labour. They know no better, and haven't got the foresight to understand the cost to the economy and brexit if labour actually end up running the country.


During or not during Labour party government? Well poo poo, I'm sold!

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