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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
This poll is closed.
Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

peanut- posted:

There was someone from Deutsche Bank quoted the other day saying the only thing that matters to the currency markets is Brexit, and right now a Corbyn-led Brexit looks like a less mad proposition than a May one.

Yeah JPMorgan said that "not May" would be the best bet.

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Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

peanut- posted:

There was someone from Deutsche Bank quoted the other day saying the only thing that matters to the currency markets is Brexit, and right now a Corbyn-led Brexit looks like a less mad proposition than a May one.

Yes, FT also made the point that it the shape Brexit will take will depend much less on May OR Corbyn than it does on the rest of the EU.

Which is true, and makes Labour's focus on things that are in the UK's control seem like the right way to go about campaigning.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

God lord, nearly 10 pieces of election material delivered today, the Tories will probably hold Portsmouth South but they're acting like they're going to lose it

I got bombed with leaflets today as well. Weirdly most of them were for UKIP who are definitely not going to win Bristol South.

Or anywhere for that matter.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Skinty McEdger posted:

She's pushing for new house arrest orders.

Because you know, those are cheaper than setting up internment camps.

How does house arrest work if you default on your rent?

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/872183836439871488
75% of people polled agree that UK interventions abroad have increased the risk of terrorism.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

OwlFancier posted:

How does house arrest work if you default on your rent?

Work house

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Davidson's best argument when quizzed about Tory policy in the manifesto is to say it's a devolved matter, so the Tory policy doesn't matter for Scotland.

To repeat: The best argument Ruth has for voting Tory is that the Tory policies won't affect Scotland.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

jabby posted:

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/872183836439871488
75% of people polled agree that UK interventions abroad have increased the risk of terrorism.

Sadly, the Indie is no longer in print so only people who already have decent sources of information will see it.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

UrbicaMortis posted:

I got bombed with leaflets today as well. Weirdly most of them were for UKIP who are definitely not going to win Bristol South.

The worst was the one mocked up to look like it was written direct from Theresa May's private office but looked really poo poo. Also, only two of the dozens of Tory drops have actually named the candidate standing here, and I have not seen one window poster or placard for the Tories

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

I'm in Bristol NW and I've received sweet FA from any of our candidates

The Tory incumbent is going to win, but would have hoped to get some literature from Labour

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Tesseraction posted:

Sadly, the Indie is no longer in print so only people who already have decent sources of information will see it.

That's true of the paper, but the polling data itself is very encouraging considering the 'outrage' from other political parties when Corbyn made that point. Even 68% of Tory voters agree with him.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


The audience seems to filled with the "I don't vote, cause you're all the same, so just get together and stop arguing!" type, but this format is by far my favourite of this election.

Barry the Sprout
Jan 12, 2001

Anyone else getting stuff direct in the post from the Tories? Like addressed to you personally? Because I've had several over the past couple of weeks, and it's pretty loving disturbing they have my details.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Barry the Sprout posted:

Anyone else getting stuff direct in the post from the Tories? Like addressed to you personally? Because I've had several over the past couple of weeks, and it's pretty loving disturbing they have my details.

I thought they just looked you up on the electoral register?

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Barry the Sprout posted:

Anyone else getting stuff direct in the post from the Tories? Like addressed to you personally? Because I've had several over the past couple of weeks, and it's pretty loving disturbing they have my details.

I got the same from Labour.

Looks like even if you're not on the public voter list, the one that companies can get, the parties themselves get access anyway.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I've broken with tradition and am hitting the booze every night this week because I have the taste of ice dread in my stomach.

Not helped by this motherfucker

https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/872163480102719489

Don't look so smug about it you jerk!

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

OwlFancier posted:

How does house arrest work if you default on your rent?

Congratulations you broke the term of your order, you're gong to jail.

Why yes as these terrorism orders would be used against suspected terrorists, who may not have committed any crime or those who they would never be able to get a conviction this means that you would have people who never received a trial or even been accused directly of any crime going to prison.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

And yes I know you can't taste in your stomach.

That's how far it's spread.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

OwlFancier posted:

How does house arrest work if you default on your rent?

The Imperial War Museum had a exhibition on modern state interrogation when I was there last, one of which was a piece where the reporter talked to someone under a control order about their life. You were provided a house for free, along with a huge list of all the things you were not allowed to do.

The person being held started a journal, but gave up after a couple of weeks since he found that he was just writing exactly the same set of activities every single day, and didn't see the point in continuing.

Barry the Sprout
Jan 12, 2001

OwlFancier posted:

I thought they just looked you up on the electoral register?

Ah, silly me. Also looking at my constituency, it's one where the Tory and UKIP vote from 2015 beat the Labour vote, so I'm guessing this is why I'm getting the post this time around when I haven't before.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

MikeCrotch posted:

The Imperial War Museum had a exhibition on modern state interrogation when I was there last, one of which was a piece where the reporter talked to someone under a control order about their life. You were provided a house for free, along with a huge list of all the things you were not allowed to do.

The person being held started a journal, but gave up after a couple of weeks since he found that he was just writing exactly the same set of activities every single day, and didn't see the point in continuing.

Breakfast (Cornflakes), 7am
Watch daytime tv, 7:10
Plan suicide, 7:11
Masturbate furiously (until bedtime)

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Do you get the internet under house arrest?

If so I mean, that sounds like a life goal for me.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Depends on the reason. For control orders no, because of ~internet radicalization~ or whatever.

On the other hand, none of the rest of us will be getting it either if May has her way.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

The DPRK posted:

Do we have a place for facebookfriends.txt? Got some loving horrendous passages to add including this gem:

quote:

the point of the matter is that too many Burkha cladded fucks are in this country blowing people up and killing innocent children. Regardless of race, colour or creed, it needs to stop. If people are remotely involved with 'terrorists' or have terrorist links they should be arrested, strung up, tortured and publicly loving hanged to send a message to the rest of the vile, mindless, brainwashed fucks that we will take it no more. War on terrorism? Bollocks. Flatten the ground they preach on and remove the fucks from society. War may be unavoidable which is a shame but at the end of the day, why should our children and the next generation have to live in fear that they could be run down, stabbed or bombed when they walk to the shop or go to a concert? It's horrific to think that in this day and age there are mindless twats that claim to do it in the name of religion.
:waycool:

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

For anyone still wondering why the Tories keep campaigning in safe Labour seats, the front page of the FT tomorrow has 'May Targets Opposition Heartlands', and a bunch of media outlets today have been speculating about how 'confident' the Tories are and how they 'must know something we don't'.

When your events consist entirely of invited activists in an old warehouse, you might as well take advantage of the free show of confidence by holding them somewhere you have no hope of winning.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
I think if I was looking for reasons to blow up a bus or something, "the government locked me in a flat for forever with no way of legally getting out of it" would trump some particularly bad youtube videos tbqh.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."


The only justified indiscriminate killings are the ones I want drat it!

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Interesting lack of Tory campaign material for me. Sure it's a very safe labour seat (once the safest) but runaway gentrification and a pisspoor local MP, combined with tolerable Tory councillors, should mean it's worth at least taking a swing, but they just don't seem to care.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

TheRat posted:

What is it with people in isolated places always being cunts?
The Liberals have mainly done right by the Orcadians, from Jo Grimond onwards.

jBrereton fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jun 6, 2017

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
May was in Slough today, which has voted roughly 45%-50% for Labour and 30%-35% Tory since 1997, and the majority in 2015 was 7,400. However, the incumbent MP is stepping down so maybe they can play on Slough voting Leave to try and wrest the seat back but history shows something different. Eton and Slough was a Labour seat from it's creation in 1950 except for one term, went Tory when Eton was kicked into what is now May's constituency but the majority dwindled each election until 1992 when the Tories held it by 514 votes. Slough is in no way a marginal, that's always had a history of leaning predominantly Labour

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

MikeCrotch posted:

The Imperial War Museum had a exhibition on modern state interrogation when I was there last, one of which was a piece where the reporter talked to someone under a control order about their life. You were provided a house for free, along with a huge list of all the things you were not allowed to do.

Might be the only way I ever get secure housing. I'm in

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

jabby posted:

For anyone still wondering why the Tories keep campaigning in safe Labour seats, the front page of the FT tomorrow has 'May Targets Opposition Heartlands', and a bunch of media outlets today have been speculating about how 'confident' the Tories are and how they 'must know something we don't'.

When your events consist entirely of invited activists in an old warehouse, you might as well take advantage of the free show of confidence by holding them somewhere you have no hope of winning.
The Conservative campaign has been very well run so far so I'm sure they're making the right decision in doing that.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

May was in Slough today, which has voted roughly 45%-50% for Labour and 30%-35% Tory since 1997, and the majority in 2015 was 7,400. However, the incumbent MP is stepping down so maybe they can play on Slough voting Leave to try and wrest the seat back but history shows something different. Eton and Slough was a Labour seat from it's creation in 1950 except for one term, went Tory when Eton was kicked into what is now May's constituency but the majority dwindled each election until 1992 when the Tories held it by 514 votes. Slough is in no way a marginal, that's always had a history of leaning predominantly Labour

I'll refer you to a previous comment jabby made:

jabby posted:

For anyone still wondering why the Tories keep campaigning in safe Labour seats, the front page of the FT tomorrow has 'May Targets Opposition Heartlands', and a bunch of media outlets today have been speculating about how 'confident' the Tories are and how they 'must know something we don't'.

When your events consist entirely of invited activists in an old warehouse, you might as well take advantage of the free show of confidence by holding them somewhere you have no hope of winning.

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.

If I were in full-on Hope Is Not A Lie mode, which I've been trying very hard to avoid, I'd say that May's bold focus on Labour safe seats feels quite a lot like Hillary's focus on Republican strongholds over Michigan and Wisconsin. And they might be for the same reason - not that her campaign team thinks the marginals are in the bag, but that they've decided she's so widely hated that showing her face there will hurt rather than help. Maybe this time the world's least competent campaign can help elect a nice jam man rather than a world-destroying monster?

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Irony Be My Shield posted:

The Conservative campaign has been very well run so far so I'm sure they're making the right decision in doing that.

It's also interesting to note that Boris Johnson's all-out attack on Corbyn today was apparently meant to be the front page grabbing 'knockout blow' in the lengthy campaign to verbally assassinate him. And thanks to current events, it disappeared into the news cycle with barely a ripple.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

jabby posted:

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/872183836439871488
75% of people polled agree that UK interventions abroad have increased the risk of terrorism.
Looks like we're gonna need a lot of those new control orders after this election, citizen

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

mehall posted:

There's a good bit of chatter on twitter, but I can't find anything official.

Girlfriend is at work, and can't use phone, so can't say 100%.

@forkboy: Unfortunately the Lib Dems might get an MP, Greens won't.

I had an email from Momentum.

quote:

As part of Labour's last day of campaigning, Jeremy Corbyn and his team will visit Glasgow.

The location of the rally has now moved to further down the street.

On Wednesday 7th, Jeremy will speak at 8am, outside Dune Shoe Shop, 101-105 Buchanan St, Glasgow, G1 3HF.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

jabby posted:

It's also interesting to note that Boris Johnson's all-out attack on Corbyn today was apparently meant to be the front page grabbing 'knockout blow' in the lengthy campaign to verbally assassinate him. And thanks to current events, it disappeared into the news cycle with barely a ripple.

He just would not shut up about Corbyn and Labour on Radio 4 this morning despite supposedly being there to talk about the Trade Council or whatever.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

God lord, nearly 10 pieces of election material delivered today, the Tories will probably hold Portsmouth South but they're acting like they're going to lose it

If the rumours of the Lib Dem collapse in the south west are true and the greens also mainly plump for Labour it's not a foregone conclusion.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/OpiniumResearch/status/872117998483537925

now this is interesting...

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