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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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jabby posted:Are you genuinely surprised papers like the Sun and the Mail are running anti-Corbyn front pages tomorrow? running anti-Corbyn headlines? No. Running headlines suggesting a possible prime minister is an advocate for terrorism not 72 hours removed from a terrorist attack. Surprisingly, yes
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Yeah, I don't think we were relying heavily on the sun-reading-pro-labour-but-doesn't-care-about-previous-allegations-of-terror-but-does-care-about-one-in-big-letters demographic. Realistically, people who do read the sun are already being exposed to a constant barrage of "LOONY LEFT WANTS TO SPEND ALL THE POONDS LOVES JIHADIS MARX COMMUNIST SATAN". I doubt, if that was viewed as significant, they'd be up for voting labour anyway.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:21
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freebooter posted:Righto. Is there a specific reason it's Thursday? I remember the US having Tuesday for some specific 19th century reason about farmer's market days being on Saturday. Don't know if it's already been answered given how fast this thread moves, but the general election always being on a Thursday is basically been a thing since 1918. The folkloric explanation is that it's before Friday when voters would get drunk at the pub, and sufficiently far from Sunday where they'd be at Church, both of which would supposedly influence their vote. How true any of that actually is I have no idea; it's basically just tradition now.
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:Don't know if it's already been answered given how fast this thread moves, but the general election always being on a Thursday is basically been a thing since 1918. The folkloric explanation is that it's before Friday when voters would get drunk at the pub, and sufficiently far from Sunday where they'd be at Church, both of which would supposedly influence their vote. How true any of that actually is I have no idea; it's basically just tradition now. Like most traditions it has outlived its usefulness and should be destroyed since it's stupid and is actively making things more difficult for a lot of people. Either that or make it a national holiday where nobody works.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:26
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jabby posted:For anyone still wondering why the Tories keep campaigning in safe Labour seats, the front page of the FT tomorrow has 'May Targets Opposition Heartlands', and a bunch of media outlets today have been speculating about how 'confident' the Tories are and how they 'must know something we don't'.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:28
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I'd really like to see somebody go out and ask the average Mail reader what they think 'troika' means.
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Apraxin posted:I know that this is incredibly unlikely and basing predictions on 'thing is superficially similar to other thing' is dumb, but Jesus Christ, if May caps off this Tory repeat of the Clinton campaign by screwing herself into losing by chasing pipe dreams of flipping solid red area and neglecting her own 'safe' constituencies it would be the greatest loving thing her own constituency is safe because both Maidenhead and Windsor are full of cunts
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TACD posted:I'd really like to see somebody go out and ask the average Mail reader what they think 'troika' means.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:30
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Here's some slightly better news I suppose: https://twitter.com/ev_bartlett/status/872205827108622336
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Jun 6, 2017 23:31
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Miftan posted:Like most traditions it has outlived its usefulness uhh i think you'll find things are good because they are old. if it was not good it wouldn't be old. we fools of today are no match for the great minds of the ancients. drat kids with your gizmos
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Jun 6, 2017 23:31
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So is there any point at all having any hope at all anymore?
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Jun 6, 2017 23:32
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The mail's copy starts off with a tone of fake reasonableness about Corbyn, but when it reaches McDonnell and Abbott it loses it's drat mind. The Sun's front page is more effective on the shelves, the actual copy inside promises too much and delivers far too little even for it's audience.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:32
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Have the Mail / Sun managed to run a single pro-Tory front page this cycle? Edit: As in positive towards Tories rather than making GBS threads on Labour.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:32
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Angepain posted:uhh i think you'll find things are good because they are old. if it was not good it wouldn't be old. we fools of today are no match for the great minds of the ancients. drat kids with your gizmos Uhhh I think you'll find that old things tend to vote tory so
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Jun 6, 2017 23:33
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TheRat posted:Here's some slightly better news I suppose: Now that second part sounds good, but this is the UK and everything is terrible so it's going to be: boy, I sure am 24% for Corbyn because of what a nice chap he is who does debates, but I'm 63% for whoever can lock up anyone who talks funny the fastest and with the least amount of questions, 604 tory seats let's go
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Jun 6, 2017 23:33
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TACD posted:I'd really like to see somebody go out and ask the average Mail reader what they think 'troika' means. Or 'ineluctable'. Apraxin posted:I know that this is incredibly unlikely and basing predictions on 'thing is superficially similar to other thing' is dumb, but Jesus Christ, if May caps off this Tory repeat of the Clinton campaign by screwing herself into losing by chasing pipe dreams of flipping solid red area and neglecting her own 'safe' constituencies it would be the greatest loving thing That would be nice, but the truth is with May it doesn't matter where she campaigns. Her 'events' are designed and choreographed to be entirely part of the 'air war' - to look good on TV and provide quotes for websites and newspapers. There's no way they influence local voters, since local people never get near her. So she might as well visit safe Labour seats and get journalists speculating about why she's so confident rather than visiting marginals and look weaker.
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Thanks Ants posted:Have the Mail / Sun managed to run a single pro-Tory front page this cycle?
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Jun 6, 2017 23:35
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you have to realize that the tory base are olds who cant get up from the TV without making GBS threads their pants and other hobgoblins in general so they're going to come out in droves where it matters most:- the voting booth.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:36
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They've had one praising May for her tough stance on Terror, my favourite is one with a tiny pic attacking Corbyn and a huge splash that basically says "SOMEONE REALLY hosed IT WITH THE TERRORISTS.ONLY A TORY GOVERNMENT CAN FIX THIS" with no sense of irony.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:36
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Steve2911 posted:So is there any point at all having any hope at all anymore? Because if you truly abandon hope you will sit stationary until you die of dehydration. I know I keep picking at this but you're being miserable cunts and I say this as someone with pretty severe depression. You won't die by entertaining a little hope every now and then, or at least no faster than you would otherwise. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Jun 6, 2017 23:37
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Thanks, BBC. That's really helpful. https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/872221044148506624
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Jun 6, 2017 23:39
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TheRat posted:Thanks, BBC. That's really helpful. To be fair, that's loving funny.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:42
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https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/872220217916764162 lol imagine where we'd be if the media hadn't spent 2 years making people think corbyn is the person may is and vice versa
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Jun 6, 2017 23:44
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That whole panel was incredibly damning for the Tories. It was an utter repudiation of their entire campaign, the two people who were planning to vote Conservative dropped down to undecided, and a load of people seemed to be edging towards Labour.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:48
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Those paper front pages are pure Lyndon Crosby. Lie big two days before the election, by the time everyone knows it's a lie it's the day after the election.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:51
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Gonzo McFee posted:Those paper front pages are pure Lyndon Crosby. Lie big two days before the election, by the time everyone knows it's a lie it's the day after the election. We should buy up all the Mail etc at opening time and dump them in a recycling bin somewhere.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:52
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We should burn down their printing presses.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:57
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Gonzo McFee posted:We should burn down their printing presses. Like.
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I don't think this has been posted yet, but some closure on previous events: seemingly terrible idea in actually terrible shockerhttps://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/jun/06/bansky-free-election-artwork-bristol-withdrawn posted:The street artist Banksy has withdrawn an offer to send a limited edition print of a new piece to voters who shunned Conservative general election candidates in and around his home city of Bristol.
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Jun 7, 2017 00:11
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The sooner print media dies off entirely, the better.
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Angepain posted:I don't think this has been posted yet, but some closure on previous events: seemingly terrible idea in actually terrible shocker It was a dumb idea but far less harmful or unethical than the aforementioned front pages.
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Tories will fall 22 seats short of a majority, says latest YouGov model - Independentquote:Theresa May is on track to win 304 seats, 22 seats short of a 326-seat majority, according to a daily projection by YouGov. Labour SNP Coalition? Oh god I need to stop reading polls it will just make it all the more painful 
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Julio Cruz posted:The sooner print media dies off entirely, the better. Internet media is worse, look at the American election.
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Your friendly reminder that the yougov model - even if valid - has confidence intervals, and ones you could drive a truck through at that: https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2017/Steve2911 posted:It was a dumb idea but far less harmful or unethical than the aforementioned front pages. It probably wouldn't actually affect the election much but Plod does tend to take electoral meddling very seriously, so it wouldn't have gone well for Banksy at least.
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Jun 7, 2017 00:21
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hakimashou posted:Internet media is worse, look at the American election. That seems to be more down to a difference in media culture between here and America.
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Jun 7, 2017 00:21
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Mackers posted:Tories will fall 22 seats short of a majority, says latest YouGov model - Independent If you've been reading this thread you'd know that it'd be a Labour minority government and not a coalition. Come on.
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Jun 7, 2017 00:31
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I've come to the daring conclusion that it's probably best all round if I don't stay up, watching the election stuff on Thursday night and drinking cheap polish lager. Partly because as the news comes in that's inevitably more depressing than I'm quite ready for, my drinking speed escalates and I end up drinking everything I can get my hands on; and partly because I'm due in school at 9:15 and classroom observations are really loving hard with a hangover.
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Jun 7, 2017 00:33
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I'm not in Britain, so I'm mainly getting British political news second hand from reading threads. As far as I cant ell, Theresa May's promises to the British people are to fire all the cops, fire all the firefighters, and replace the internet with going to jail. And the primary argument for voting for her is that Jeremy Corbyn is either silly or horrifying. Does she have an actual positive message to get people to vote for her?
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Guy Goodbody posted:I'm not in Britain, so I'm mainly getting British political news second hand from reading threads. As far as I cant ell, Theresa May's promises to the British people are to fire all the cops, fire all the firefighters, and replace the internet with going to jail. And the primary argument for voting for her is that Jeremy Corbyn is either silly or horrifying. No, you seem to have a pretty good understanding of the situation.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Does she have an actual positive message to get people to vote for her? Brexit means brexit, and is possibly red, white and/or blue.
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