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Fenn the Fool! posted:A move that's -6 is only punishable if it leaves the blocker close enough to hit you with their 6 frame attacks. The further an attack pushes away on block the more negative it has to be to be unsafe, because longer reaching attacks are generally slower. Thanks. Just to tie together some of the concepts and discussion from the previous page together: Ivy has a f21 string that hits high then mid, and is -3 on block, and can be special canceled. It also leads into f212, which is also -3 on block and adds another mid, and f213, which is -4 on block and adds an overhead. If I want to think about how this string fits into my arsenal, does this sound right? I throw out f21, and if I confirm that it connects, I can cancel into a special like db2. If they block the string, then I can continue into either f212 or f213. If they crouch block, the high will miss but then the mid will put them into blockstun and if I did f213 the overhead would connect. But using this string is overall more vulnerable to low counters because a standing counter would have to land during the startup frames for the string, while something like d1 has a wider window to connect because the first hit is high and would miss a crouching opponent. Is that right?
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Jun 6, 2017 22:39
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Can't wait for Bahstahn Brahnd
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Jun 6, 2017 22:52
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http://littlebrothereye.azurewebsites.net/Event If you are away from your console, this tells you the events
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Jun 6, 2017 23:12
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I'm not super familiar with that string, but none of that seems wrong on it's face. How all these pieces fit together is going to have a lot of nuances, I'd recommend going to training mode and getting a feel for what you can/can't hitconfirm when the dummy is set to randomly block and also what you can/can't punish with when the dummy is set to do that string to you. Just be sure to think about how reaction time plays into this, when the dummy is on a predictable loop its a lot easier to react to things then when a real opponent is doing them sporadically along with other attacks. A few other points to keep in mind here: Even if they duck the first hit and block the second hit crouching, they could still stand up to block the overhead (though, if vine drill hits low then you could cancel to that instead of doing the overhead for a 50/50). I don't know how much range that string has and how fast the second hit comes out, but ducking under the first hit and punishing with a crouching attack could be very difficult to do on reaction; if your opponent can only do so predicatively, then that becomes something you could potentially bait out and punish. Finally, whatever a move's block or hit advantage is, that number only matters if you don't cancel it into another attack. So, f21 being -3 on block is irrelevant if you cancel it into f212. There might be a gap between those two attacks where your opponent could do something, if they leave blockstun for even one frame your opponent could do an armored attack or backdash. If there is a gap of 6 or more frames they have enough time to interrupt your string with their attack, though strings like this are fairly rare. Regardless, f21 being -3 on block isn't enough information to know whether f212 has a gap in it or how big that gap is. If you really wanted to you could look at that block advantage along with the recovery, startup, and cancel window of those attacks and do all the math to figure out how big that gap is, but it'd probably be easier just to test it in training mode.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:13
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So I just completed the story mode and was wondering how I go about contributing to the guild. I've been trying the Multiverse stuff but I don't see anything about Guild credits or Guild experience when I win a match. Also, is there a "best" way to level a character?
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Jun 6, 2017 23:31
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HotBobaloo posted:So I just completed the story mode and was wondering how I go about contributing to the guild. I've been trying the Multiverse stuff but I don't see anything about Guild credits or Guild experience when I win a match. Also, is there a "best" way to level a character? If you're in a guild, most things will generate guild points. There is also a special "Guild Multiverse" which is what everyone is talking about when they talk about lovely boss fights. It's found on the guild information screen. The "best" way to level a character seems to be either the single fight mode, or the endless tower in the battle simulator. Endless tower works well because you can set an AI loadout and go do something else, just make sure to hit the button every couple minutes.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:45
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The guild has its own multiverse which you can find in the Guild page by moving over to the corner and clicking. It's not entirely obvious. However, single-player multiverse towers will also contribute, you should see a thing about "Guild Points" in the score screen after you finish a tower, it's not per-fight.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:46
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Seriously feels like there's some kind of cap on epics because at first I was getting them all over, and now it's super loving exciting to see one because they're so rare! I'm unemployed at the moment and basically haven't done anything else since I last posted. Also! Did a guild fight against joker, that was really fun! I suck though, some dude with super girl totally schooled me, it was great!
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Jun 7, 2017 00:40
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somebody set his clock ahead and found out a Red Hood event is getting put up on June 13th https://www.reddit.com/r/INJUSTICE/comments/6fpm5o/red_hood_multiverse_on_june_13/
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DLC Inc posted:somebody set his clock ahead and found out a Red Hood event is getting put up on June 13th So this red hood is from earth 6666, an earth so edgy it went one more six than Satan?
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Jun 7, 2017 01:32
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Seems like a lot of pros are playing Catwoman now.
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Jun 7, 2017 04:42
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Hmm, let's go see if the guild multiverse will be easier this week... "Defeat the guild boss 50 times" Well, I guess if everyone does it once Edit: Also one of the towers forces you to start over if you lose a fight and the other guild boss is a hyped-up spamming Deadshot. Well I guess with enough effort anything can be overcome I decided to finally take my Poison Ivy online now that I can connect to the internet with a reasonable connection. It alternated between me getting railed by multiple full combos in a row until I died, and me being able to spam trait + vine drill over and over without them figuring out how to get out, with no in-between CharlieFoxtrot fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Jun 7, 2017 04:45
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:This is great, I was just reading about hit confirms earlier so seeing some video on it really helps. It does have me thinking more about frame data and how to translate that into tactics, though. 6 frame move is the fastest move in the game yes. However there is determination than that if a move is safe on block, other things to account for is pushback on block, and if the animation moves someone backwards on block to boot. Yes generally if you do a move that is negative, but not punishable, you have lost your "turn" as it were, and now it is the enemies "turn". However with the turn analogy, there are ways to steal turns like doing something negative, then immediately doing an armoured b3 to steal the initiative back because since it is their turn, they should hit a button for example. If you do a move that is plus, its still effectively your turn, but it comes with a caveat. Generally after a plus move you want to do something like a d1 to make sure they respect your frame advantage because if they hit a button they will get hit. Only once they respect it can you truly do some big things with your frame advantage. Once you have established that mental state that they are afraid to hit that button, then you can start getting crazy, go for high/low mixups, throws, etc, with relative impunity.
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Dude is streaming Red Hood's event right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPYhGZw45Qc EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad9CGtIPHZk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8DjErpveEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJR1iNfHilk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcOOCZYs7f8 Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Jun 7, 2017 06:42
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Jason's guns seem much more fun to use than Deadshot's.
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Jun 7, 2017 06:58
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Hmm, let's go see if the guild multiverse will be easier this week... 
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Jun 7, 2017 07:23
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I don't mind the towers but god drat they need to up the rewards for the boss.
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Jun 7, 2017 07:29
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fadam posted:Tom_Brady is unintentionally the funniest man in the FGC, but this video is very interesting. I had a suspicion that something fuckey was going on. I missed this, what was it? hup posted:Yeah, why is Spawn rumored at all? He's rumoured because Todd Macfarlane officially permitted NRS to add Spawn to any of their games for x amount of time starting with MKX, not that they or WB have shown any inclination to add him to anything.
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Jun 7, 2017 08:21
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:I missed this, what was it? It was a video going over a misconception of how the game handles things done out of the reversal window. Here is the recent video uploaded about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lklnq1vRK2k To quickly sum up the reversal window thing he was explaining, when you input something like down 1 xx down back 2, and are doing it in the buffer window from the block stun instead of doing them all in the order they were input it would combine all the inputs together into one chunk and then do db1 due to how it prioritizes commands. I will mention I feel the new video covering it is still bad at explaining it. Black Mage Knight fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Jun 7, 2017 08:44
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Red Hood would be better if he was more like Kylo Ren. I guess most characters would.
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Jun 7, 2017 08:50
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Supergirl is such an annoying little poo poo, I love it. I'd pay to get an audio feed of what some of the people I've been matched up against are saying.
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Jun 7, 2017 11:14
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we might as well wait for the stream today because that guy who put up a video of Red Hood fights is embarrassingly loving bad at this game. Funny how there's like a straight up Deadpoolesque mask for Red Hood.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:01
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That guy with the red hood event videos is really bad at this fighting game
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Jun 7, 2017 14:53
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Yes, the Red Hood is bad
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Jun 7, 2017 14:58
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Am I right in thinking that the computer 'cheats'? Like I know people have said it input reads, but, is it actually doing stuff like, "if user pushes square, do one of these things that beat it, if they push triangle, do one of these things that beat it instead" etc etc, such that sometimes it's literally impossible? It's kind of annoying if it is, and it feels like it is. Also, where would I look for a good doctor fate guide? I'm kind of ok with him, but still don't reeeaally know when to use which combo and barely know any combos beyond the target ones.
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Jun 7, 2017 15:06
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!Klams posted:Am I right in thinking that the computer 'cheats'? Like I know people have said it input reads, but, is it actually doing stuff like, "if user pushes square, do one of these things that beat it, if they push triangle, do one of these things that beat it instead" etc etc, such that sometimes it's literally impossible? Yes, and you can use that to your advantage at times too.
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Jun 7, 2017 15:18
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I find that you can usually open up the AI by just spamming your fastest attack over and over. Eventually something will break in their logic and they'll take a hit trying to do something else besides sit there and block.
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Jun 7, 2017 15:21
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More competent player taking a test drive with Jason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4FSf2D3M5o I'm no injustice expert but seems like Jason is quite meter greedy with his moves.
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Jun 7, 2017 16:25
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So is he actually publicly available now? I may take him for a test drive tonight if so. E: guess not, oh well.
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Jun 7, 2017 16:32
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I'm actually kinda hype for Starfire. I love Teen Titans. I hope she is next.
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Jun 7, 2017 16:43
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:I'm actually kinda hype for Starfire. I love Teen Titans. Starfire had kind of a rocky path of character development in recent years. Like somebody said previously, the cartoon version of her is a very cleaned up rendition of her comic personality. It'll be interesting to see how she's presented in the game.
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Jun 7, 2017 17:05
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it's safe to assume Starfire will also be her non-Titans persona since Cyborg is already in the game and he's boring as gently caress. so close to having all 5 Titans but Raven got axed, Beast Boy is dead, and we have the wrong Robin. I'm worried Sub-Zero will render Captain Cold obsolete as the poor guy is already a bit limited with his combos and moves outside ICE WALL FOR DAYS
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DLC Inc posted:it's safe to assume Starfire will also be her non-Titans persona since Cyborg is already in the game and he's boring as gently caress. Yeah but Cyborg's ending! Also wasn't Beast Boy rumored for one of the DLC packs?
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Jun 7, 2017 17:25
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Surprise, all the Teen Titans have been replaced by Kombat Kidz.
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Jun 7, 2017 17:26
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I'm still holding out for it to be Johnny Cage wearing Raiden's hat
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Jun 7, 2017 17:31
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If Starfire is anything like her cartoon version I'll definitely pick up the dlc just to see her interactions with characters like Atrocitus and all the extremely serious and constipated characters.
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Jun 7, 2017 17:33
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exquisite tea posted:Surprise, all the Teen Titans have been replaced by Kombat Kidz. I'm ok with this. Jimmy Hats posted:I'm still holding out for it to be Johnny Cage wearing Raiden's hat I'm so loving ok with this I don't even
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Jun 7, 2017 17:34
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exquisite tea posted:I find that you can usually open up the AI by just spamming your fastest attack over and over. Eventually something will break in their logic and they'll take a hit trying to do something else besides sit there and block. ...? If I spam light, you can guarantee if it's blocked that you're going to eat a lengthy combo, and as far as my testing goes there is literally no way to stop it? It's actually that black and white, get blocked = eat combo, that's what I'm asking about really? Maybe it's because doctor fate has a target combo that's like 112, so it has a bigger... Frames... More negative on block...? Are these words?
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Yeah but Cyborg's ending! Also wasn't Beast Boy rumored for one of the DLC packs? guess I have to beat the simulator with Grid now. Beast Boy was killed in the Injustice comics so the odds are against him. btw I encourage everyone to do the Atrocitus metaverse before it's gone. I was at level 11 when I started and ended it at 15, was able to beat the lvl 20 Green Lantern after 2 or 3 tries no problem. Atrocitus in general is an easy and powerful character so even being underleveled like I was shouldn't be a hindrance. I've got 3 or 4 new Epics now for Atrocitus.
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