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ruddiger posted:Not sure who Lupina is but you guys can knock yourself out and call whoever whatever you want. Clearly reason was never a factor in this conversation, nor was the consideration to the identity that minorities choose for themselves. Or, in this case, each other
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ALFbrot posted:Or, in this case, each other No no no he is definitely no arguing that and has edited his previous posts to make that clear!
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Jun 7, 2017 19:34
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Okay,ruddiger posted:there's no arguing with someone when they feel they've got moral superiority on their side, ...has been abundantly proven at this point, so how about those movies!? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ul-l8vWqSU
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Jun 7, 2017 19:41
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That was the most ironic phrase uttered on this site.
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Jun 7, 2017 19:42
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ALFbrot posted:Or, in this case, each other Lupita chooses to identify as Mexican and Kenyan, because her nationality is that important to her, and I respect and applaud her wishes. My question, which still hasn't been addressed, is why you all refuse to do the same. I'm not denying her blackness I just refuse to use that label, but you all are definitely denying her Mexican-ness, which is all the more obtuse because she has, time and again, made it a priority to embrace that part of her identity.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:13
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Were have we denied it? Unless you can't be black and Mexican making it an either or but man is that hosed up
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marshmallow creep posted:Okay, Antonio owns
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CharlestheHammer posted:Ah you will call me black but not Lupita. I don't know who's arguing what but this is a funny post.
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It was funnier with the misspelling. Last Banderas movie I saw was that robot movie he was in. It had a decent premise, but didn't really do anything with it in the movie itself. Dude should have definitely had a bigger career, Desperado and Assassins were loving great mostly because of his performances alone. Checking out his IMDB, it looks like he's going to be playing Gianni Versace and Ferruccio Lamborghini in two upcoming biopics which has got me ridiculously excited. It also reminded me that I still want to see Finding Altamira. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ7VPiSr7R0 e: nope, not going to engage the disgusting "whites and blacks are different races" angle, sorry. I started the conversation off by specifically mentioning nationality. It was your choice to ignore it. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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Still whining about that eh? Anything for your desperate need for moral superiority, I suppose. At least I know the difference between race and nationality. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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boy, we sure got ourselves an "odd couple" here
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got any sevens posted:Antonio owns Is it weird that I don't think of Banderas as an action movie guy? I know he has a bunch of action movies under his belt, heck as a kid I thought Desperado was the raddest poo poo. But in my mind his action movie roles are far outweighed either by thrillers or comedies where he's taking the piss out of his action hero status. Which makes Antonio Banderas: Man of Action even better.
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When he's trying to diffuse the situation in the bar is hands down one of the best moments in Desperado. Like, he's believable when you see him in an action role, but he's also unbelievably charismatic when doing practically anything else. Those scenes when he's showing the kid how to pick the guitar are gold.
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ruddiger posted:Exactly. Lupita is black skinned. We all have eyeballs. She chooses to identify herself as both Kenyan and Mexican. I quickly edited my one point where I said she was "Mexican" because it's more nuanced than that. She identifies as African Mexican, so therefore she is Mexican not just in my eyes, but in her own eyes as well. I'm Mexican American, but I'm still just "Mexican" when it comes to the majority of Americans. ahah ok, man, sure. Wow.
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So anyway apparently advance reviews for The Mummy are not good.
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Maxwell Lord posted:So anyway apparently advance reviews for The Mummy are not good. Look at this one: http://variety.com/2017/film/reviews/the-mummy-review-tom-cruise-1202455294/ quote:It’s here that you begin to divine the film’s basic strategy: It will grab ideas, motifs, and effects from almost any genre and jam them together, palming off its grab-bag quality as “originality.” Scene for scene, “The Mummy” has been competently staged by director Alex Kurtzman, who has one previous feature to his credit (the minor 2012 Chris Pine heart-tugger “People Like Us”) and has never made a special-effects film before. He knows how to visualize a spectacular plane crash, or how to play up the Dagger of Set — a mystical weapon of death that needs a giant ruby to complete it — so that it doesn’t seem as chintzy as something out of a “National Treasure” movie (which is basically what it is). Yet competence isn’t the same thing as style or vision. “The Mummy” is a literal-minded, bumptious monster mash of a movie. It keeps throwing things at you, and the more you learn about the ersatz intricacy of its “universe,” the less compelling it becomes. Kurtzman!
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Maxwell Lord posted:So anyway apparently advance reviews for The Mummy are not good.  I'm watching that one this weekend...because Tom Cruise. Hoping it's at least entertaining? A little bit? A tiny bit? please
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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jun/07/the-mummy-review-tom-cruisequote:the lantern-jawed and rather forgotten Brendan Fraser quote:In one scene [The Cruisemeister] is nude so we can see what undeniably great shape he’s in. The flabby, shapeless film itself doesn’t have his muscle-tone quote:Russell Crowe lumbers on at one stage, amply filling a three-piece suit Only "The Cruisemeister" is safe from being put on blast.
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Grendels Dad posted:Is it weird that I don't think of Banderas as an action movie guy? Once you watch his movies with Almodovar that'll definitely override everything else.
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The studio is basically saying that they expect the foreign market to carry this movie, since Cruise sells well overseas. They keep downgrading the expected domestic first week totals so they really need the international estimates to be on point.
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Grendels Dad posted:Is it weird that I don't think of Banderas as an action movie guy? I know he has a bunch of action movies under his belt, heck as a kid I thought Desperado was the raddest poo poo. But in my mind his action movie roles are far outweighed either by thrillers or comedies where he's taking the piss out of his action hero status. He's not an action movie guy. He is Spanish. Get it right.
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Electromax posted:https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jun/07/the-mummy-review-tom-cruise quote:Be afraid, for here it is … again … emerging waxily from the darkness. This disturbing figure must surely be thousands of years old by now, a princeling worshipped as a god but entombed in his own riches and status; remarkably well preserved. It is Tom Cruise You sure?
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ALFbrot posted:He's not an action movie guy. He is Spanish. Get it right. Holy poo poo
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That guardian review is trying a bit to hard with the ice burns.
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So many mummy puns on the Rotten Tomatoes page. Hey guys..... wraps.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Once you watch his movies with Almodovar that'll definitely override everything else. The Skin I Live In came out more than 15 years ago. 
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ruddiger posted:The Skin I Live In came out more than 15 years ago. in 2011? granted it was their first movie together in 20 years at that point
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:in 2011? Gah, really? It seems so much longer. But yeah, they need to do more movies together. And I still need to see Julieta.
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CharlestheHammer posted:That guardian review is trying a bit to hard with the ice burns. Glad I'm not the only one that was left a bit cold by it.
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ruddiger posted:Gah, really? It seems so much longer. Yeah I have it at home right now but still haven't watched it. I only just saw Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown & Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! pretty recently, The Skin I Live In was actually my first Almodovar.
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Desperado Bones posted:
Sure is nice to talk about something that isn't who is or is not Mexican.
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Casimir Radon posted:I will see it no matter how badly it's reviewed. Talking about how much Cruise runs and screams would be 10 times better.
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Grendels Dad posted:Is it weird that I don't think of Banderas as an action movie guy? I know he has a bunch of action movies under his belt, heck as a kid I thought Desperado was the raddest poo poo. But in my mind his action movie roles are far outweighed either by thrillers or comedies where he's taking the piss out of his action hero status. Ecks vs. Sever
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It's not indicative of anything, but The Mummy is doing very well in Korea at least: http://variety.com/2017/film/news/the-mummy-box-office-korea-1202455838/
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Desperado Bones posted:
Its Tom Cruise in a sci-fi (ish) movie. So far he's been 2 for 2 of those so im willing to give him a earnest shot.
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BexGu posted:Its Tom Cruise in a sci-fi (ish) movie. So far he's been 2 for 2 of those so im willing to give him a earnest shot. What does 2 for 2 in sci-fi mean for Tom Cruise?
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Sir Kodiak posted:What does 2 for 2 in sci-fi mean for Tom Cruise? It means he's short.
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Sir Kodiak posted:What does 2 for 2 in sci-fi mean for Tom Cruise? Live.Die.Repeat and Oblivion in the past 5 years or so.
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BexGu posted:Its Tom Cruise in a sci-fi (ish) movie. So far he's been 2 for 2 of those so im willing to give him a earnest shot. Tom Cruise was in War of the Worlds and Minority Report, so shouldn't he be 4 for 4? Unless you're just sneak dissing on Spielberg.
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