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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

orange sky posted:

So do I see many more videos/articles/songs praising corbyn and telling may to gently caress off because I live in a bubble or will this entire demographic group vote Labour and the rest will 100% not? I mean I know I have a bubble but I don't really find much even if I search for it.

The Tories don't have all that stuff because they don't need them.

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Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Lord of the Llamas posted:

I think a lot of pollsters are going to feel silly tomorrow.

Survation will feel the silliest.


jabby posted:

Except YouGov! Either their (recently tweaked) poll is right, or their (experimental) model is right! Funny how that works out.

What did I tell you about their model?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

oxford_town posted:

I fear this just makes the shy Tories double down on their voting intentions.

If telling people that voting tory is bad makes them vote tory then I'm not sure that there's much you can do.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Labour aren't going to win. The youth turnout won't be enough to make a difference and the old are too stubborn. Honestly we have had this poo poo discussed so many times and we know the only answer left is not playing clean. Of course the problem what is that no one is willing to dirty their hands.


Regarde Aduck posted:

I so hope May fucks Scotland up so hard. You can sleep in the bed you've made.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Prince John posted:

Have you been doing the phone bank stuff then? How's it been? I've chickened out of doing that as I'm not terribly comfortable on the phone and I have a poo poo voice that I need to counteract with the rest of me to make a reasonable impression.

I think I've probably done a bit of literally everything at this point, but, yeah, phone banking's been good, especially when it's hot. I've only been sworn at once, remarkably. Most people who don't like me just say they're not interested and hang up. The worst conversations are the half-hour rambling ones with people who might swing but are old, crazy, or both.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

ElNarez posted:

whatever happens tomorrow please don't take it as a repudiation of populist leftist politics

We won't... the PLP however.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

thehappyprince posted:

they should all just use the nate silver 'well i did give him a 5% chance so i did actually call it right' method

Eh, 538 had Trump at 25-30% when others had him at 1%.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Pissflaps posted:

Survation will feel the silliest.

You have no evidence for this.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Nate Silver has absolutely nothing useful to say about this general election.

Lord of the Llamas posted:

You have no evidence for this.

Call it a hunch.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Prince John posted:

Heh, huzzah! Perhaps my local party were just using it as a motivating tactic :)

Say what you will about mandatory voting but at the very least I bet it makes campaigns a lot easier to run

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.

Yeah, the confidence difference between Nate and every other statistician was significant enough that "shook Nate" was a meme is USPOL for months leading up to the election.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Pissflaps posted:

Nate Silver has absolutely nothing useful to say about this general election.

Neither have the British pollsters. It's a tie!

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Pissflaps posted:

Nate Silver has absolutely nothing useful to say about this general election.

He thinks it's an uncertain outcome with a wide range of possibilities. You're convinced of a massive Tory majority.

thehappyprince
Apr 4, 2006

Alastair Cock

the tragedy of this election is the public only had 6 weeks to see the real jeremy corbyn tbh

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Lord of the Llamas posted:

He thinks it's an uncertain outcome with a wide range of possibilities. You're convinced of a massive Tory majority.

Well yes, exactly.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

thehappyprince posted:

the tragedy of this election is the public only had 6 weeks to see the real jeremy corbyn tbh

I don't think my heart could have taken a 2 year style American campaign.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Lord of the Llamas posted:

He thinks it's an uncertain outcome with a wide range of possibilities. You're convinced of a massive Tory majority.

joke's on him the outcome will in fact be certain once it has already happened :smug: he'll look like an idiot then that's for sure take that statistics

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Survation will feel the silliest.

I noticed you've revised up your guess at Labour's vote share. Would that be because of Corbyn engaging those non-voters and young people, or do you think he's taking voters from the Tories?

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Remember Nate Silver projected the Tories to get 270 something seats in 2015

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

freebooter posted:

Say what you will about mandatory voting but at the very least I bet it makes campaigns a lot easier to run

Yeah, that's a huge number of man hours not needed for 'get out the vote' efforts on the day.

Seems like it might have many of the same downsides as compulsory voter ID if it were enforced with fines, in that those least likely to vote (minorities, homeless, the poor etc.) would be disproportionately affected by it. No fines mean it would be ignored however.

Wonder how it works in practice in Oz. Anyway, night all. See you on the other side...

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Prince John posted:

Yeah, that's a huge number of man hours not needed for 'get out the vote' efforts on the day.

Seems like it might have many of the same downsides as compulsory voter ID if it were enforced with fines, in that those least likely to vote (minorities, homeless, the poor etc.) would be disproportionately affected by it. No fines mean it would be ignored however.

Wonder how it works in practice in Oz. Anyway, night all. See you on the other side...

They have the Democracy Sausage, so in that respect, I am for it.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jabby posted:

I noticed you've revised up your guess at Labour's vote share. Would that be because of Corbyn engaging those non-voters and young people, or do you think he's taking voters from the Tories?

No. Its the collapse of UKIP. Not all those votes will go Tory, just most.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

No. Its the collapse of UKIP. Not all those votes will go Tory, just most.

It certainly took you a while to cotton on to the collapse of UKIP.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

If this ends up being very close, it will be amusing to me how closely it will have mirrored the 2016 election in Australia: an arrogant Tory incumbent calling an early election to smash the opposition, the chattering classes hailing it as a political masterstroke, and then the surprise result on election night when your comfortable majority drops to a razor-thin gap and you find yourself giving a hectoring, belligerent lecture from the podium which Twitter wags then set to the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme.

thehappyprince
Apr 4, 2006

Alastair Cock

Raeg posted:

I don't think my heart could have taken a 2 year style American campaign.

your heart would soar like corbz' approval ratings

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jabby posted:

It certainly took you a while to cotton on to the collapse of UKIP.

Have you a guess of your own to share?

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

This one's fun

quote:

Westminster voting intention: CON: 38.5% LAB: 41.3% LDEM: 6% UKIP: 3% (Qriously / 04 - 07 Jun)

(It's probably 100% bullshit)

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Just had a small chat with my mum about the election and at one point just to see her reaction, I said how would you feel If I went and vote Tory.

The words of "I will loving disown you." have never made me happier to hear. I'm glad to be her son.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
Arguing on Facebook with someone who won't vote Labour because he says Seumas Milne's a Stalinist.

I can't wait for this loving election to be over (except for the 5 years of Tory darkness which come immediately afterwards)

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


TheRat posted:

This one's fun


(It's probably 100% bullshit)

Stop this nonsense please.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Julio Cruz posted:

Arguing on Facebook with someone who won't vote Labour because he says Seumas Milne's a Stalinist.

Is that someone your friend or family? Disown them.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Extreme0 posted:

Is that someone you're friend or family? Disown them.

He's just a random, I got drawn into a mutual friend's argument, because I'm a moron.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

TheRat posted:

This one's fun


(It's probably 100% bullshit)

They claim to have access to 80% of smartphone users :shrek:

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

forkboy84 posted:

Stop this nonsense please.

Down with this sick filth.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Prince John posted:

Yeah, that's a huge number of man hours not needed for 'get out the vote' efforts on the day.

Seems like it might have many of the same downsides as compulsory voter ID if it were enforced with fines, in that those least likely to vote (minorities, homeless, the poor etc.) would be disproportionately affected by it. No fines mean it would be ignored however.

Wonder how it works in practice in Oz. Anyway, night all. See you on the other side...

I can see homeless not voting, but in practice we don't have anything like minorities/poor/youth not voting. Turnout is always 90%+. I was talking to a coworker in the UK about it and she said, "yeah, I suppose you'd just vote rather than get the fine." Which had never really occurred to me: since you know voting is compulsory, and everybody votes, it's just the done thing. The idea of not voting is weird. I imagine for most people it's thought of more as an unavoidable errand than a civic duty, but whatever works. (Also having an elected upper house and preferential voting means that your vote matters way more than in the UK, where the majority of the population is effectively disenfranchised by their local demographics.)

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Julio Cruz posted:

He's just a random, I got drawn into a mutual friend's argument, because I'm a moron.

Tell your friend to disown them.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Lord of the Llamas posted:

They claim to have access to 80% of smartphone users :shrek:

It's like that bit in the batman film except Morgan Freeman is standing in front of a wall of screens seeing if people react favourably to Jeremy Corbyn memes

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Just for clarity. How is security when it comes to polling stations?

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold

Extreme0 posted:

Just for clarity. How is security when it comes to polling stations?

The old lady who gives you your ballot keeps a cricket bat wrapped with barbed wire behind the desk.

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big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
I dunno how you all have so many Tory friends. Just scrolling through and my Facebook is a wall of Labour with the occasional hopeful Green growing in the cracks. Maybe the Tories are all shy. I have one friend who professes to be a Tory and I think owns a poster of Thatcher but he's like a post-post-ironic habitually contrary oval office and I doubt if he'll even bother voting.

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