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OxMan posted:With the walking Jasons it is all about using your powers properly. I've posted about it a few pages ago but how you spend your pre warp time is also important (trapping phone, hacking nearby unvisited cabin doors down etc). Using Morph for short range teleport is extremely bad
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So apparently there's another way to glitch the map and make it near inaccessible for Jason to reach you. I mean, at first it was hilarious to find that someone had suddenly appeared on the wardrobe. What was not fun was watching them just stand there for the match. Jason managed to get her with knives though, which was great.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:29
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Playstation 4 posted:Savini Jason I'm lost here. I don't have the Savini Jason, but the amount of salty rage on the Steam forums is intense
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Jun 8, 2017 15:09
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Savini Jason looks cool but it's not like he has extra, special powers. I think there's other Jasons who do what he can do slightly better.
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Jun 8, 2017 15:18
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:Savini Jason looks cool but it's not like he has extra, special powers. I think there's other Jasons who do what he can do slightly better. I heard this with the Payday 2 DLC as well. The whole "PAY TO WIN" moaning thing where it clearly isn't. I think people get stuck in an echo chamber sometimes and just never listen. I was arguing the Payday 2 thing with my real life friend for near enough an hour when it finally came to light he didn't even know Payday 2 was a co-op game. He'd thought it was PvP and was pissed that you could "buy" a rocket launcher.
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:Savini Jason looks cool but it's not like he has extra, special powers. I think there's other Jasons who do what he can do slightly better. You can win with any Jason, but Savini Jason has a really good set of stats - he's arguably the strongest jason in the game on the weight of his strengths and weaknesses. His strengths are really good - Shift is incredibly good out of the box - lower cooldown and covering more ground per shift is probably the single best benefit in the game, in terms of killing counselors. Morph is nice to have for getting around and covering objectives, but people can't accomplish objectives when they're dead and Shift is what seals the deal. Weapon Strength is also really good and pretty much universally applicable - it makes your attacks hurt more, requiring fewer hits to bring counselors down to crippled level and giving you more bang for the buck for each throwing knife. Destruction is probably the weakest overall of the strength perks he has, and it's still really good - you're always going to be breaking doors, and being able to do that faster means more time chasing down and murdering counselors and less time being stalled. His weaknesses are also really minor drawbacks - Grip Strength might as well not even matter as a weakness, considering that it's impossible for even full composure counselors to break free unless you are trying to drag them to an environmental kill. Water Speed is similarly very minor - although it potentially might be the difference between catching the boat and not, better strengths (or a lack of more punishing weaknesses such as Shift or Morph) can make it less likely that counselors will get the boat running in the first place and the odds of it mattering are slim to none. Finally, Can't Run is basically irrelevant, especially on the weight of having an improved Shift. Only two jasons don't have this as a drawback, meaning it's more of a default state than a weakness. Compare this to something like Part 7 Jason, who has two irrelevant "strengths" (Grip and Water Speed) and a weak bonus (Sense is nice, but nowhere near as nice as Shift or Morph, especially since you can toggle it to reduce the recharge), and actually noticeable weaknesses - slower cooldowns on Shift hurts, and being stuck with fewer traps is also painful.
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Drunken Baker posted:I heard this with the Payday 2 DLC as well. The whole "PAY TO WIN" moaning thing where it clearly isn't. I think people get stuck in an echo chamber sometimes and just never listen. I was arguing the Payday 2 thing with my real life friend for near enough an hour when it finally came to light he didn't even know Payday 2 was a co-op game. He'd thought it was PvP and was pissed that you could "buy" a rocket launcher. "I want to hit people hard" - Jason III does this better (movement speed) "I want to destroy things" -Jason VIII does this better (no-animation trick) "I want to shift-grab like a pro" -Jason IX does this better (he can stalk while he does this)
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Jun 8, 2017 16:01
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Olesh posted:I present to you, a story in five parts (thanks for clipping this off Jade's stream, Dev) I think, even as a non-player, it is in my best interest to vouch for these and make sure as many people as possible see it.
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Jun 8, 2017 16:13
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A. Beaverhausen posted:God drat it I've been avoiding bathrooms.  Typical unwashed goon!
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Tomahawk posted:The shotgun always spawns at the same corner of the archery range Coolguye posted:A shotgun also spawns on the shelf in the Higgins Haven main cabin, middle room, first floor. TheAnomaly posted:found out today the propeller can spawn in the bathroom on the shelves I had no idea about any of this, awesome.
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Jun 8, 2017 16:57
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For the record, flare gun much better than shotgun. You won't kill some one with it by accident
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The loving shotgun man, I don't know what it is but people in this thread have seen it: I can't hit a shotgun blast at point blank but I can sharpshoot right to Jason's dome every time with the flare gun.
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Jun 8, 2017 17:15
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I love how the animation of using the shotgun and flare gun are completely optional.
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Jun 8, 2017 17:27
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What is faster, Savini Jason killing a door in 3 shots in the animation, or Spear Jason 6 using the wall attack method 6 times?
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Jun 8, 2017 18:00
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Why would you ever use a water related perk? It makes no sense when boats aren't guaranteed to spawn and you don't swim to them.HOOLY BOOLY posted:Why is it that every host quits as soon as i'm about to win as Jason Can't speak for the other versions but if you're playing it on Xbone it might simply be the game crashing. It feels like the game crashes every 4 games I play. I really wish they would prioritize fixing crashes and random drops over match making. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jun 8, 2017 |
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Jun 8, 2017 18:16
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This is twice now where i've murdered everybody in a single lobby and host quits right before they die.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:What is faster, Savini Jason killing a door in 3 shots in the animation, or Spear Jason 6 using the wall attack method 6 times? I can't seem to wall attack. Can someone explain how to do it a little better?
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Jun 8, 2017 19:45
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My favourite Jason is Part 2, mainly because he fits into my playstyle of making sure the counselors don't get the objectives without killing them for at least 5 minutes but making sure I scare the bejesus out of them. Lots of traps means I can secure objectives easily, quick morph means I can get around and secure objectives and smash generators, and running means I can keep up with most people and make sure they are nice and terrified for when the gloves come off and I start murdering. Basically, I play Jason like he's a cat toying with his prey.
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Jun 8, 2017 20:08
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Olesh posted:I present to you, a story in five parts (thanks for clipping this off Jade's stream, Dev) Truly the Chad we deserve.
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Jun 8, 2017 22:02
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:"I want to hit people hard" - Jason III does this better (movement speed) What is the no-animation trick?
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Jun 8, 2017 22:05
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One of the game's many, many bugs.
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Knifegrab posted:What is the no-animation trick? Use a Jason that isn't using a poker, go into combat stance and stand so that the door is on your side as you're facing right, and swing. You'll damage the door and not do the door-breaking animation.
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KOMI posted:Use a Jason that isn't using a poker, go into combat stance and stand so that the door is on your side as you're facing right, and swing. You'll damage the door and not do the door-breaking animation. And its fast than breaking down a door normally?
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KOMI posted:Use a Jason that isn't using a poker, go into combat stance and stand so that the door is on your side as you're facing right, and swing. You'll damage the door and not do the door-breaking animation. By "poker" I'm assuming Part 6 spear Jason and Savini pitchfork will not work? So this trick is faster then doing combat stance and whacking the door itself?
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Atomic Robo-Kid posted:By "poker" I'm assuming Part 6 spear Jason and Savini pitchfork will not work? Sorry, I meant spear. Savinis Aquaman trident will work too. That added to his already existing perk of smashing doors down quicker than most, it's very effective.
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I've been hearing a lot of talk about grab needing to be nerfed but I'm not sure I see it? Maybe the answer would be to have people have to tech out of the grab by hitting the correct random button instead of mashing to escape? As it stands it seems like mashing out is pretty much impossible unless the Jason player is getting greedy and trying to walk to an environmental kill that's too far away.
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When I'm a counselor: "grab is OP, nerf this poo poo" When I'm Jason: "why is it so easy to escape grab? buff this poo poo"
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Kelp Plankton posted:When I'm a counselor: "grab is OP, nerf this poo poo" There are some people who have a minimum of 2 pocketknives on them at all times. (Duster) There are some who seem to never have one. (Coolguy)
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The other day I just had to pour gas in the boat and I was out, but that fucker Tommy brought Jason right to me. It's just the two of us now, and I have Mom's sweater, Firecrackers, and a Pocket Knife. I'm Deborah and I think I can totally do this. My plan is: Get grabbed, drop Firecrackers right next to me before I start to pour, then hit the sweater and leave Tommy to take care of business. He just walks up and smacks me with a machete a couple times before Tommy whiffs and delivers the killing blow by accident.
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:There are some people who have a minimum of 2 pocketknives on them at all times. (Duster) Being Adam is great because you can rummage through dead counselors possessions without taking huge hits to you fear meter. That is one downside of left click killing counselors.
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RichterIX posted:I've been hearing a lot of talk about grab needing to be nerfed but I'm not sure I see it? Maybe the answer would be to have people have to tech out of the grab by hitting the correct random button instead of mashing to escape? As it stands it seems like mashing out is pretty much impossible unless the Jason player is getting greedy and trying to walk to an environmental kill that's too far away. This is correct in 99% of cases. If you're playing a high composure character who hasn't been wounded/scared, you will still only break out of the grab if Jason chooses not to murder you immediately. The other 1% of cases are that there are a few locations where the ground/terrain prevents Jason from doing certain executions (it varies by execution), and if the Jason has only these equipped, he _must_ readjust his position/facing which can potentially buy enough time to break free. Edit: Whether this is a problem that needs fixing is difficult to judge.
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:There are some who seem to never have one. (Coolguy)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH2dx-ZLXVI It somewhat works.
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This game may have more jank than references to the films.
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One thing that's shockingly easy to forget is that Jason is a white guy. Mostly because he's black/grey in like, half the movies he has appeared in. This only really came to mind because the Freddy VS Jason Jason is coal black for some reason, and of all the Jasons they could have used for the thumbnail, they choose one of the ones that aren't in the game. Outside of that boat car escape is a feature, not a bug.
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Burkion posted:One thing that's shockingly easy to forget is that Jason is a white guy. Uh, is it?
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Lurdiak posted:Uh, is it? It's not something I really think about all that often because, again, most of the movies he's in, he's not white. He's not any skin color. Like, my mental image of Jason is Part 7 Jason, who is black/grey. That's the movie I watched the most as a kid and the design I love the most. It's not any huge thing or shocking revelation, just an idle thought. Though I do remember being pleasantly surprised he was finally blonde in the remake. Never understood where red head Jason came from.
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Burkion posted:Though I do remember being pleasantly surprised he was finally blonde in the remake. Never understood where red head Jason came from. I mean, like Jason, Irish Americans are considerably more likely to be both mentally disabled and prone to committing crimes. They were just being realistic.
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Burkion posted:It's not something I really think about all that often because, again, most of the movies he's in, he's not white. He's not any skin color. Like, my mental image of Jason is Part 7 Jason, who is black/grey. That's the movie I watched the most as a kid and the design I love the most. It's not any huge thing or shocking revelation, just an idle thought. Part 2 Jason is pretty ambiguously haired. He's right in between blonde and red. Add some VHS fuzz, and... 
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