UKMT General Elextravaganza 2017: Lord Buckethead would have won

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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed.
Labour	907	49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative)	48	2.64%
Liberal Democrats	31	1.71%
UKIP	13	0.72%
Plaid Cymru	25	1.38%
Green	22	1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party	12	0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party	1	0.06%
Scottish National Party	59	3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist	4	0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian	3	0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist	36	1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots	35	1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash	8	0.44%
Monster Raving Loony	49	2.70%
Space Navies Party	39	2.15%
Independent / Single Issue	2	0.11%
Can't Vote	188	10.35%
Won't Vote	8	0.44%
Spoiled Ballot	15	0.83%
Pissflaps	312	17.17%
Total:	1817 votes

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Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

NewMars posted:

They thought they were dealing with crazy TV stannis, but it turns out it's amazing book stannis instead.

Scuse me but Telly Stannis was the best part of that show after King Raspberry Jam died.

Also yeah, all those questions about what the hell to do with Norn Iron is one of the huge worries about Brexit, because nowhere else in the UK stands to be as fundamentally and problematically disruptive.

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Dikkfor: Feb 4, 2010

ahahaha

BBC: "Is Blairism dead?"

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:30

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Trin Tragula posted:

If there is a Conservative government after all this, this is not a win and you're going to look like a right nana if you start trying to say it is.

The actually sane position would be that Labour lost in a photo finish, did absolutely as well as possible given all their self-inflicted handicaps, and we're now in an ideal position to fight the next election, whenever it may be, as long as the PLP shuts the gently caress up and pulls on the same rope as everyone else, in the same way that Jeremy and the rest of the awkward squad pulled in 1997. What this does do is give a huge boost to the movement towards democratic policy-making and tweaking the leadership election rules to ensure we can get a continuity candidate on the ballot when we need them.

But considering where we were two months ago there's no reasonable way to characterise this except as 'a' win, though not the win.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:30

Taintrunner: Apr 10, 2017; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Zoran posted:

An aside: one time the Generals did actually win

And in Britain they call that time the National Health Service

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:31

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

Reveilled posted:

Thinking from a purely mercenary place, could this be the best possible outcome for Labour as a party, medium term? If the Conservatives end up with a feckless PM leading us into a disasterous Brexit, does that let Labour avoid any fallout from Brexit while avoiding a desperate lurch to the right?

Looks like it, yeah.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:31

Trin Tragula: Apr 22, 2005

PS: have you joined the Labour Party? Join the Labour Party and you'll be able to participate in internal party democracy to stop the Blairites buggering this all up again while everybody's distracted with Brexit or selling off the NHS.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:31

TomViolence: Feb 19, 2013; PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:31

Magner: Oct 21, 2010

axeil posted:

Yeah that's what made me think of it. But then I realized "wait a second, the EU would never loving allow that, this dude is mad"

The whole point of the EU is that the EU sets the border/trade/immigration policy for all EU members.

The funny thing is that neither we in the north nor the republic want a hard border, because it'll gently caress us both, but the decision will be made between Westminster and Brussels.
Neither of which give a gently caress about either of us.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:31

Pershing: Feb 21, 2010; John "Black Jack" Pershing
Hard Fucking Core

Noctone posted:

To put it into perspective for my American comrades who are confused this is kind of like if the Washington Generals lost to the Globetrotters 100-99

Clarity achieved.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:32

SpaceDrake: Dec 22, 2006; I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

Reveilled posted:

Thinking from a purely mercenary place, could this be the best possible outcome for Labour as a party, medium term? If the Conservatives end up with a feckless PM leading us into a disasterous Brexit, does that let Labour avoid any fallout from Brexit while avoiding a desperate lurch to the right?

Yes, like Trin says, it's hard to really call it a "win" but from a realpolitik standpoint it's still an excellent outcome. The Tories look like the idiots they are AND still get to have BoJo or whoever the piss hold the bag on Brexit, and when the next election comes - probably soon - Labour can say "now look how badly they're really loving up, meanwhile we still want to do all that good poo poo Jezza's been talking about and we can probably bang out something better with the continent". Labour will be in a position of strength after this.

From an election Theresa May herself called. God I can't get over that.

Benny Harvey posted:

Why January?

An arbitrary date. Really, things could fall apart at any moment and the UK needs a government now because the Brexit negotiations are set to start.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:32

Murderion: Oct 4, 2009; 2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

Magner posted:

The funny thing is that neither we in the north nor the republic want a hard border, because it'll gently caress us both, but the decision will be made between Westminster and Brussels.
Neither of which give a gently caress about either of us.

They do now :mrgw:

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:33

Benny Harvey: Nov 24, 2012

Noctone posted:

To put it into perspective for my American comrades who are confused this is kind of like if the Washington Generals lost to the Globetrotters 100-99

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/10/15/ireland-beat-germany-1-1/

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:33

axeil: Feb 14, 2006

Magner posted:

The funny thing is that neither we in the north nor the republic want a hard border, because it'll gently caress us both, but the decision will be made between Westminster and Brussels.
Neither of which give a gently caress about either of us.

That absolutely makes sense. It brings me back to thinking about last year and how utterly :psyduck:

the entire Brexit argument was.

I mean...is it even possible the UK could say "lol jk" and not leave the EU after all?

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:33

Crosspeice: Aug 9, 2013

Still so many Blairite shits still not actually directly saying that they are behind Corbyn and it was their loving fault it got that bad.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:33

Sarmhan: Nov 1, 2011

Magner posted:

The funny thing is that neither we in the north nor the republic want a hard border, because it'll gently caress us both, but the decision will be made between Westminster and Brussels.
Neither of which give a gently caress about either of us.

Is there even a reasonable way to do a hard brexit that doesn't gently caress the NI/I border? Because that's going to make any kind of Unionist+Tory coalition impossible.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:33

Necrothatcher: Mar 26, 2005

Soooo... those polls huh :rolleyes:

that was fun times

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:34

ukle: Nov 28, 2005

Ein Sexmonster posted:

Is there even a reasonable way to do a hard brexit that doesn't gently caress the NI/I border? Because that's going to make any kind of Unionist+Tory coalition impossible.

It means the Tories have to ensure Freedom of movement aka Hard Brexit is now impossible.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:34

Murderion: Oct 4, 2009; 2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

The virtual parliament is back :allears:

e: ahaha everyone is so tired and loving up.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:34

Kaislioc: Feb 14, 2008

axeil posted:

I mean...is it even possible the UK could say "lol jk" and not leave the EU after all?

Maybe? Nobody bothered to get an ECJ ruling on the issue.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:34

Sarmhan: Nov 1, 2011

ukle posted:

It means the Tories have to ensure Freedom of movement aka Hard Brexit is now impossible.

That's what I thought. This is going to be truly amazing isn't it?

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:35

Taintrunner: Apr 10, 2017; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Soooo... those polls huh

that was fun times

There's at least one person that stopped cutting themself at night reading that Corbyn was unelectable over and over again thanks to tonight's results

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:35

a pipe smoking dog: Jan 25, 2010; "haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Well I didn't predict waking up this happy this morning.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:35

Trin Tragula: Apr 22, 2005

Brendan for Prime Minister

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:35

Extreme0: Feb 28, 2013; I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!

Kaislioc posted:

Maybe? Nobody bothered to get an ECJ ruling on the issue.

Yes. If they say they don't want to leave the EU anymore they are welcome too.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:35

axeil: Feb 14, 2006

the guy with the tablet on the BBC

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:35

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Pk, im going to bed. It was fun. Party and be merry my UK friends.

FORWARD! FOR TOMORROW!

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:35

thehappyprince: Apr 4, 2006; Alastair Cock

Trin Tragula posted:

PS: have you joined the Labour Party? Join the Labour Party and you'll be able to participate in internal party democracy to stop the Blairites buggering this all up again while everybody's distracted with Brexit or selling off the NHS.

agreeing with this

if you're on the fence: your local mp will send you a christmas card

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:36

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Thank you Brendan!

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:36

Ikwaylx: Aug 19, 2011; Drop the bandibass!

Today wasn't as bad for Jeremy Corbyn as expected :gbsmith:

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:36

SpaceDrake: Dec 22, 2006; I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

Magner posted:

The funny thing is that neither we in the north nor the republic want a hard border, because it'll gently caress us both, but the decision will be made between Westminster and Brussels.
Neither of which give a gently caress about either of us.

This thread is moving incredibly fast due to joy, but yeah, Northern Ireland is the one part of everything that could really go to poo poo in a poorly-handled Brexit and I wish there was time for an effortpost.

The TLDR is that the Good Friday Agreement that brought peace to NI and ended the Troubles relies in no small part on the open border policy of the EU - the Irish Republicans in NI still get to travel to the rest of Ireland whenever they please and families etc are no longer split apart, while the Unionists still get to be part of merry ol' Stronk Britagne. If a hard border has to be enforced due to Brexit, that fucks up the entire arrangement and at worst could drive the IRA to reactivate.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:37

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

I think I've collected the big takeaways from this election:

1) Jeremy Corbyn is... good.
2) Theresa May is... hosed.
3) Nick Clegg is... a highlander.
4) Scotland is... bad.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:37

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Polls reveal: Yougov are spineless shitheads

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:37

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

May - ya hosed up

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:37

Benjamin Arthur: Nov 7, 2012

hakimashou posted:

I think I've collected the big takeaways from this election:

1) Jeremy Corbyn is... good.
2) Theresa May is... hosed.
3) Nick Clegg is... a highlander.
4) Scotland is... bad.

Ukip are dead

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:38

Clipperton: Dec 20, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Taintrunner posted:

Pragmatize this, you wizard bitch

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:38

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

When May resigns or gets forced out the thread title should prob change to "Made June The End Of May"

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:38

OrthoTrot: Dec 10, 2006; Its either Trotsky or its Notsky

Trin Tragula posted:

PS: have you joined the Labour Party? Join the Labour Party and you'll be able to participate in internal party democracy to stop the Blairites buggering this all up again while everybody's distracted with Brexit or selling off the NHS.

Yessss. Just think what this election would have been like if Corbyn and co had won half the internal battles since 2015. We could have got rid of half these Blairite fucks with a bit of the old mandatory reselection.

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:38

qhat: Jul 6, 2015

Are these cunts at the BBC reading this thread?

# ? Jun 9, 2017 05:38

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Ein Sexmonster posted:

Is there even a reasonable way to do a hard brexit that doesn't gently caress the NI/I border? Because that's going to make any kind of Unionist+Tory coalition impossible.

There's no apparently way to do a soft Brexit without loving the border with the Free State. If it's soft enough to not gently caress the border it implies we're still utterly beholden to every single EU regulation etc., so Brexit would just mean we don't get any more say in making those regulations.

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jabby: Oct 27, 2010

So we're gonna have a Tory government because of Scotland. Awesome.

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