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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:Why did this happen? Is it similar to gerrymandering in the USA? Nah, just geographic dispersion of votes. The UK doesn't really have partisan gerrymandering. SNP only ran in 59 scottish seats seats, greens in just over 600. SNP got 977,569 votes, so an average of about 16.5k per riding they ran in Greens got 523,259 votes, so an average of about 900 per riding they ran in.
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:Why did this happen? Is it similar to gerrymandering in the USA? Nah, it's the loving awful FPTP system we have. There was a point where we almost had a better option, but the tories engineered it so it was an option people didn't really want because they wanted even better, so they all voted against.
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dispatch_async posted:https://twitter.com/Peston/status/873057307709526020 Eeeerrgh. I mean it's hard not to, politically, but I'm not sure it's a good idea.
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Cerebral Bore posted:That's not exactly relevant to how hosed they are. May will have to go and they'll descend into a nasty-rear end knife fight and emerge with another unelected PM, Corbyn is going to steam forward with a mostly-united PLP behind him rather than the constant backstabbing we've seen so far, all the political momentum is on Labour's side, and the Tories will be beholden to the DUP, and thus can't deliver a hard Brexit which will alienate the hardcore UKIP>Tory voters. They're hosed Yeah this is going to be awesome. May can't govern or make any claim to mandate, the Tories will be in a tailspin. Meanwhile you're youth - and thankfully they showed up - are going to press left for the promises they were made. I'm not a British national but man, thanks for making the world take a pause.
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Even if you're a prime minister in a weak position, you're still prime minister; this is pretty much the only thing that a lot of Tories got into politics for.
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OwlFancier posted:I don't think anyone can explain NI politics to you, it's horrifically complicated. Do you have a more specific question? What is likely to happen with the DUP? Do they want much more than increased autonomy for their own region? How did they gain so many seats from the UUP?
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This isn't just being prime minister in a weak position though, this is being prime minister where a weak position can mean going down in history as the person who hosed up with brexit. Which is inevitable when you have two parties hotglued into a coalition neither really wants and no compelling reason to be leader.
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Murderion posted:On social issues they're basically the US republican party. Northern Ireland still doesn't have same sex marriage because of their fuckery. And economically? Snipee posted:Can someone please explain Northern Ireland's politics to me? I don't want to skim through numerous wiki articles and scan through half a dozen relevant links on google when there are informed goons here in the UKMT. I mean, the top result when I looked up DUP Manifesto is some garbage by the Sun. Can someone help? TIA From what I understand, gently caress Englande vs Englande is Good, Actually is an idiot's beginner's guide
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Just woke up having gone to bed pretty hopeful about the election but fully expecting to be crushed this morning. I honestly have a big stupid grin on my face. I'm well aware nothing is guaranteed right now and it seems unlikely Corbin will get to be PM, but I am feeling the biggest shaudenfreude I've ever felt. Eat poo poo May, your arrogant contempt for the electorate has come back to bite you! Also: what the gently caress Scotland how could you
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BBC Dickhead: Labour supports acting as if they've won it, they've lost the election
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Ratjaculation posted:Anywhere I can find the popular vote? The BBC app ain't very friendly http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2017/results Tories 42.4, Labour 40.1 as things stand. Second most Labour votes ever.
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NewMars posted:This isn't just being prime minister in a weak position though, this is being prime minister where a weak position can mean going down in history as the person who hosed up with brexit. Which is inevitable when you have two parties hotglued into a coalition neither really wants and no compelling reason to be leader. going down in history is exactly what they want and there is no level of gently caress up they can cause that will deny them a cushy job after leaving office
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nopantsjack posted:going down in history is exactly what they want and there is no level of gently caress up they can cause that will deny them a cushy job after leaving office If they lose an election to corbyn, which they will, Rupert Murdoch will have them shot.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2017/results
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NewMars posted:This isn't just being prime minister in a weak position though, this is being prime minister where a weak position can mean going down in history as the person who hosed up with brexit. Which is inevitable when you have two parties hotglued into a coalition neither really wants and no compelling reason to be leader. Specifically, the prime minister who hosed up brexit by calling a special election they thought they'd win handily, after the last prime minister forced her into the position by by calling a referendum he thought he'd win handily. Did I get this right?
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PiCroft posted:Also: what the gently caress Scotland how could you Tartan Tories, the SNP and Scottish Labour are all to blame.
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Endorph posted:so did they get rid of the saboteurs yet Saboteur status: thoroughly crushed
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Endorph posted:so did they get rid of the saboteurs yet Well Nick Clegg's gone As has James Wharton, tory MP for Stockton South, who went to school with some friends of mine. Apparently he spent most of his free time talking about how "he'd love to shoot some darkies" and similar, so it couldn't happen to a nicer person.
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Snipee posted:What is likely to happen with the DUP? Do they want much more than increased autonomy for their own region? How did they gain so many seats from the UUP? The DUP are the socially conservative, unionist party in NI, which means they want NI to stay NI, and not, uh, unify with ROI. Irish politics is weird in that nationalists want unification and unionists are separatists, though i suppose it goes the other way from a UK point of view. Nobody in NI wants to lose the current open borders arrangement with the ROI, which is part of why the peace agreement works and people aren't murdering and bombing each other over there so much any more. If Brexit goes ahead the ROI is in the EU, which means it will have to close borders with NI, which is in the UK. This would be very very bad for the DUP if they had a hand in it, and bad for all of us because it would seriously gently caress up the peace agreement. Being social conservatives and unionists they align with the tories in most things but it's going to be really difficult for them to work together when the tories want to basically gently caress them over with brexit. As to why they won seats, NI's been having some lovely political trouble recently with its government going to poo poo and lots of arguments which is frankly complicated and I don't properly understand at all so one of the NI goons should answer that. Oh and when I say socially conservative I mean, like, the nasty wing of the tories, real shitters.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Specifically, the prime minister who hosed up brexit by calling a special election they thought they'd win handily, after the last prime minister forced her into the position by by calling a referendum he thought he'd win handily. Seems right to me, it's almost as if a pattern of arrogance backfiring is emerging....
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As a dumb ignorant American, I know it's not a total Labour majority but it still feels like a solid win against May's Brexit policies and could result in another election within the next year or two depending on how a coalition is formed or not. So soak it in for a few days and then get back to the work. Keep pressing on the issues that matter like social welfare, good governance and I can't believe I have to say it but human rights (jfc May, you massive chowderhead). But for now, grats UKGoons!
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so what are the chances that jezza and co can repeat this level of success in a subsequent election? does this legitimize him and the party platform, or was this a circumstantial victory based on the uncertainty of the direction of the nation? what do you all think will happen to labour in the next election? will the youth come out again? will the dispirited come out of the woodwork having seen the huge strides labour made? will people see this as a loss since they most likely won't get to form a government?
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Indyref 2 was a mistake in the uncertain time after Brexit SNP voters included a lot more right wingers/centrists than they'd like to admit. Ruth Davidson is basically running Sturgeon's own routine on her to great effect.
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PMQs is going to be one of the greatest moment of television ever. I wonder if May will ask Rudd to stand in again.
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Kensington is apparently tipped to go Labour by around 30 votes. Just doing another recount.
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RaySmuckles posted:so what are the chances that jezza and co can repeat this level of success in a subsequent election?
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RaySmuckles posted:so what are the chances that jezza and co can repeat this level of success in a subsequent election? From the looks of things? Turnout for Corbs will be even bigger next time. No one sees this as a conservative victory, everyone, even his enemies thinks he did well and may sunk her own party.
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Grouchio posted:Biggest Labour presence since Attlee? Wait ignore that. I misread the BBC thing. It's still up there - the most Labour votes ever is something like 13.5m, currently on 12.8.
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Jun 9, 2017 07:26
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So, I had a nap and woke up and honestly this, everything, it's loving awesome.
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NewMars posted:From the looks of things? Turnout for Corbs will be even bigger next time. No one sees this as a conservative victory, everyone, even his enemies thinks he did well and may sunk her own party. Is there not a chance that the blairites try and shaft him again?
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3 hours sleep but I don't feel tired at all. What a day, what a lovely day!
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Endorph posted:i can definitely confirm that time will continue to move linearly. i hope this helps. disappointing, but helpful
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Endorph posted:so did they get rid of the saboteurs yet Almost, they lost their majority at least.
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