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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Raeg posted:

20 point gap to a 2 point gap. Hell of a thing.

Remember: The Lib Dem coalition lasted the 5 years because they had a workable majority of it. DUP support goves them at best... what 3?

Yeah and that's relying on tories with tiny majorities following an unpopular leader who just led them into a totally unnecessary defeat.

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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Beefeater1980 posted:

So what could conceivably bring down this coalition government before the term is up?

Just a few Tory MP's being unhappy with the Brexit negotiations.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

The DUP know their role in this, they'll keep to the sidelines.

Of course a couple of their MPs have absolutely awful attendance records so they would need to improve on that lol

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Corbyn... good?

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

SteelMentor posted:

Corbyn... good?

Corbyn is the absolute boy

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I am very pleased with the outcome. I think Northern Ireland will have a real voice in this parliament. I think the large parties - the mainland parties - will have to stop ignoring us.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Reminder that Kensington is too close to call after several recounts, and that if it goes Lab the Tory+DUP working majority will be 1.

Theresa May can potentially be held hostage by any single MP on her backbenches.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

kustomkarkommando posted:

The DUP know their role in this, they'll keep to the sidelines.

Of course a couple of their MPs have absolutely awful attendance records so they would need to improve on that lol

Things like this is why I find it tough to see this being a 5 year government.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

SteelMentor posted:

Corbyn... good?
Yeah and Theresa May being so much more inept than anyone at Labour HQ could possibly have hoped for.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

kustomkarkommando posted:

The DUP know their role in this, they'll keep to the sidelines.

Their role is propping up the prime minister, that's a pretty big opportunity to push things through

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Kurtofan posted:

loving scots

No, gently caress you, there's still by far a majority of anti-Tory MPs in Scotland.

yes, there's more Tories than I'd like, or expected, but the Tories have an absolute majority in England, it's the other regions which pull them back from a majority overall.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Wheat Loaf posted:

I am very pleased with the outcome. I think Northern Ireland will have a real voice in this parliament. I think the large parties - the mainland parties - will have to stop ignoring us.
Given the deaths of both the Tory and Labour sister parties I wouldn't bet on it.

Dr Snofeld
Apr 30, 2009

Raeg posted:

Things like this is why I find it tough to see this being a 5 year government.

The idea of the Tories being unable to pass a bill to kick kittens or whatever because a couple of MPs are skiving off to the cinema or something is delicious, no matter how unlikely.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

mehall posted:

No, gently caress you, there's still by far a majority of anti-Tory MPs in Scotland.

yes, there's more Tories than I'd like, or expected, but the Tories have an absolute majority in England, it's the other regions which pull them back from a majority overall.

We expect the English to be massive shites though

Let's face it, it's time for the SNP and Labour to merge

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Their role is propping up the prime minister, that's a pretty big opportunity to push things through

The majority of their focus is NI and NI issues. With the assembly all but dead and buried the DUP will be in prime position to set Tory policy during direct rule (or at least contain it)

They really don't give much of a drat about the mainland

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

The Tories being forced to three-line whip absolutely anything to get it through is the funniest loving thing.

ukle
Nov 28, 2005

kustomkarkommando posted:

The DUP know their role in this, they'll keep to the sidelines.

Of course a couple of their MPs have absolutely awful attendance records so they would need to improve on that lol

DUP supposedly not agreed to any deal yet. All their MP's are meeting soon, its a given they will not agree any supply motion that doesn't guarantee an open border as it would be electoral suicide for them.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Beefeater1980 posted:

So what could conceivably bring down this coalition government before the term is up?
anything upward of a stiff breeze

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Vitamin P posted:

Well gently caress that elation didn't last long.

Obviously it's not as good as it could have been (a Labour majority), but it's so much better now than it was a month ago. Supporting Labour and Corbyn isn't a joke any more just for cranks and students - it's almost as popular as the Conservatives and if you go by vote share rather than seats then progressive(ish) parties are a bigger proportion than the rest.

Maybe the country isn't as poo poo as the last few years made it feel, which has cheered me up tremendously.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.
This is by far the funniest result if you just want chaos. Good news for chaos fans.

ukle
Nov 28, 2005

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

The Tories being forced to three-line whip absolutely anything to get it through is the funniest loving thing.

Its why they won't attempt to pass anything that is even remotely controversial as it will be doomed with just a couple of rebels.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

mehall posted:

No, gently caress you, there's still by far a majority of anti-Tory MPs in Scotland.

yes, there's more Tories than I'd like, or expected, but the Tories have an absolute majority in England, it's the other regions which pull them back from a majority overall.

no one is having a go at wales m8

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

ukle posted:

DUP supposedly not agreed to any deal yet. All their MP's are meeting soon, its a given they will not agree any supply motion that doesn't guarantee an open border as it would be electoral suicide for them.

They will 100% support the Tories and take their chance to be kingmakers.

The Tories have been courting them for just this occasion since brexit, inviting them to their conference and plying them with champagne. They where their emergency brake in case of pro-remain rebels.

This is not being pulled out of thin air

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
I cannot believe I didn't want this election to happen. I was a fool.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

kustomkarkommando posted:

The majority of their focus is NI and NI issues. With the assembly all but dead and buried the DUP will be in prime position to set Tory policy during direct rule (or at least contain it)

They really don't give much of a drat about the mainland
What do you reckon Stormont needs to function?

Jean-Paul Shartre
Jan 16, 2015

this sentence no verb


Beefeater1980 posted:

So what could conceivably bring down this coalition government before the term is up?

Depends if the DUPs shambolic incompetence or the Tories' predilection for knifing will do it in first.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

jBrereton posted:

Yeah and Theresa May being so much more inept than anyone at Labour HQ could possibly have hoped for.

Biggest takeaway for me is that the power of the Sun and Daily Mail is slipping. Corbyn was their perfect target, they hit him with everything for 2 years, even had the help of his own party, and they couldn't take him down. They have to be worrying right about now.

That and the youf vote. I've no idea where this 72% figure has come from but even if it wasn't that high, it was high. That's a cultural shift, that's peer influence bringing people out to vote and it's incredibly loving encouraging.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
People were mentioning another election around October, what would be the inciting incident of such a deathblow to the Tories?

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


New overnight Anywhere But Westminster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkrKIg_N_a4

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

VitalSigns posted:

June 9th 2017


June 6th 2017

lmao

Corbyn is terrible, his whackadoo leftism will lose so hard even the most deluded will see reason and come back to the center. Eh, what's that, he massively overperformed? His pragmatic centrism won the day obviously, just as I predicted.

With this kind of goalpost moving, eventually the insect court will be defending communism and calling for capitalists to be sent to the gulags.

Matinee
Sep 15, 2007

So if Kensington goes Labour and Thanet South turns in a by-election, does that make Ken Clarke the most powerful man in the commons?

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

SteelMentor posted:

People were mentioning another election around October, what would be the inciting incident of such a deathblow to the Tories?

Any confidence vote ever basically.

Archaeology Hat
Aug 10, 2009

SteelMentor posted:

People were mentioning another election around October, what would be the inciting incident of such a deathblow to the Tories?

Probably either an internal Tory disagreement or the DUP taking their ball and going home.

Ape Fist
Feb 23, 2007

Nowadays, you can do anything that you want; anal, oral, fisting, but you need to be wearing gloves, condoms, protection.
Man you can just count the ways the DUP are traitorous animals forever.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Matinee posted:

So if Kensington goes Labour and Thanet South turns in a by-election, does that make Ken Clarke the most powerful man in the commons?

Either him or one of the many Brexit Nutter Tory Brigade.

This DUP combination is so unbelievably unstable.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

SteelMentor posted:

People were mentioning another election around October, what would be the inciting incident of such a deathblow to the Tories?

Leadership change I guess. May has possibly had to promise she'll gently caress off after a respectable interval (so that she can insist that it's not because she's been owned in the election) and another leadership election this soon will probably prompt another election.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

Gort posted:

We expect the English to be massive shites though

Let's face it, it's time for the SNP and Labour to merge

If the new English left ever figures out why the Scottish left moved to the SNP in the first place (and also purges Scottish Labour) I'd even think about it

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

spectralent posted:

I cannot believe I didn't want this election to happen. I was a fool.

Likewise. I don't think anyone was expecting Corbyn to be so good, or May to be so catastrophically bad.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

jBrereton posted:

What do you reckon Stormont needs to function?

For Stormont to come back there needs to be an Irish Language Act - this has become an obvious red line issue for SF and in principle the government has agreed to some protections for the Irish language.

Some agreement needs to be reached on language provision but the DUP will block the gently caress out of it.

If they push ahead with the select defence committees recommendation for a statue of limitations for security service personnel to protect ARE BOYS and push for unilateral legacy framework were even more hosed

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waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH
What happens if the Tory in South Thanet gets convicted for election fraud from 2015?

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