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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
Everyone please be magnanimous with Pissflaps it is time to heal this divided nation

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Rakosi
May 5, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
NO-QUARTERMASTER


From the river (of Palestinian blood) to the sea (of Palestinian tears)
Clegg losing and Alex and Angus losing in Scotland are the funniest things. And UKIP leader gtfo too.

Lots of scalps.

EDIT: this is the first time the party i voted for didn't end up in power :(

Dr Snofeld
Apr 30, 2009

communism bitch posted:

Leadership change I guess. May has possibly had to promise she'll gently caress off after a respectable interval (so that she can insist that it's not because she's been owned in the election) and another leadership election this soon will probably prompt another election.

How would a corn cob even get to the Brexit negotiating table in the first place?

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

The DUP has tied Irish Language provision to extending the military covenant in full to Ni, which has been partially blocked over the issue of giving ex security service members preferential access to healthcare and housing

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
I reckon May has gone to the palace without any deal set-up with the DUP. The reason being to stave off a knifing from her own party. I bet the minutes seem like hours to her at the moment, she just needs to make it to 12 30 without being deposed.

Matinee
Sep 15, 2007

Sudden cold sweat thought: there's no way this could re-start sectarian violence in Ireland, right? Right?

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

waffle posted:

What happens if the Tory in South Thanet gets convicted for election fraud from 2015?

by-election and he can't stand

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

kustomkarkommando posted:

The DUP has tied Irish Language provision to extending the military covenant in full to Ni, which has been partially blocked over the issue of giving ex security service members preferential access to healthcare and housing
It's time for Michel Barnier to say that respect for the Irish language is the only way to avoid a hard border

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Raeg posted:

This is by far the funniest result if you just want chaos. Good news for chaos fans.

If you're not British this owns. Sorry Brits. Could be worse, you could be America.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


EU response to the election by Politico.

quote:

EU's Juncker tells UK 'we are ready' to start Brexit talks

PRAGUE — European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker told Britain on Friday the EU was ready to commence Brexit talks and he hoped the U.K. would be able to form a government as soon as possible.

“We are ready to start negotiations,” Juncker told POLITICO on the sidelines at a conference in Prague. “I hope that the British will be able to form as soon as possible a stable government. I don’t think that things now have become easier but we are ready.”

Juncker’s comments reflect consensus among EU leaders that the best way to restore stability is to get the Brexit talks under way quickly and work towards the March 2019 deadline for Britain to leave the European Union.

There is also a hint of Schadenfreude about the fate of Prime Minister Theresa May’s Conservatives, who put themselves in this dilemma by calling a referendum on membership of the EU in the first place. The Tories lost their majority in Thursday’s snap elections, which May had called in a bid to strengthen her mandate.

Separately, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier said the talks should only begin when the country is ready, pushing back against some senior European politicians who want to stick to the current timetable, under which talks with the U.K. are due to begin this month.

“#Brexit negotiations should start when UK is ready; timetable and EU positions are clear,” tweeted Barnier. “Let’s put our minds together on striking a deal.”

Senior officials in Brussels had welcomed May’s decision in April to call the elections, in the hope that it would bring clarity and predictability to the Brexit talks and give her the political strength to make decisions that might be unpopular at home. However, May’s gamble went disastrously wrong.

“The clock is running for #Brexit,” tweeted Manfred Weber, the German MEP who leads the largest bloc in the European Parliament, the center-right European People’s Party. “That means the U.K. urgently needs a government that can negotiate. The date of the start of negotiations is uncertain now.”

In a sign of evident denial still gripping May’s government, a senior British official telephoned Juncker’s chief-of-staff, Martin Selmayr, on Friday morning and suggested that London and Brussels would be able to stick with the expected timetable for the Brexit talks. That assertion left EU officials rolling their eyes.

“We don’t know when Brexit talks start. We know when they must end,” tweeted Donald Tusk, president of the European Council.

Pierre Moscovici, European commissioner for economic and financial affairs, said on French radio that although the U.K. elections “were not about a new Brexit referendum,” the results would certainly have “impact on the spirit of the negotiations.” However, the Brexit talks would have to go ahead and the Commission would stick to the March 2019 deadline for Britain leaving the EU, he said.

French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe told French radio that he now expected the Brexit talks to be “be long and complicated, we should not fool ourselves.”

That was also the view of Günther Oettinger, the EU’s German budget commissioner, who said “mistakes were made” in May’s campaign but denied that he was enjoying the spectacle. “Schadenfreude? No, why? Leaving aside that this is a disaster for the Tories and that no one knows what comes next, we need a functioning government that can negotiate Great Britain’s exit,” he told German radio.

“The referendum still stands. No one is questioning it. The British will push ahead with the negotiations but with a weakened negotiating partner there’s a danger that the talks don’t go well for either side.”

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.
The most I think about it, the more hilariously unstable I realise this mess will be.

STRONG AND STABLE IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST

ShredsYouSay
Sep 22, 2011

How's his widow holding up?
I'm guessing Rees Mogg won't be happy being dictated to by protestant fundies

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

Matinee posted:

Sudden cold sweat thought: there's no way this could re-start sectarian violence in Ireland, right? Right?

It won't, but hard brexit almost certainly will. Which is why the DUP wants to avoid it at all costs.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
i hope may stays on with her shambles of a coalition

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

ShredsYouSay posted:

I'm guessing Rees Mogg won't be happy being dictated to by protestant fundies

Is this the most powerful potential awkward squad a government has ever faced?

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

waffle posted:

What happens if the Tory in South Thanet gets convicted for election fraud from 2015?

A by-election where the tories might lose their majority.

Ape Fist
Feb 23, 2007

Nowadays, you can do anything that you want; anal, oral, fisting, but you need to be wearing gloves, condoms, protection.
Now that I think about it with the DUP having some hand in the way the Tory government looks at the world it probably won't bode well for relations between the Irish and British Government considering virtually all wings of the Irish Government regard the DUP with at best a kind of low-rolling hatred and at worst a murderous animistic rage.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Kurtofan posted:

i hope may stays on with her shambles of a coalition

Same

Matinee
Sep 15, 2007

spectralent posted:

A by-election where the tories might lose their majority.

How apt it would be if a single crooked twerp (getting caught) brings the whole lot crashing down.

lionlegs
Feb 16, 2005
Ask me about my lego spheres!
Kensington, John Cleese's constituency, has given up counting the votes because it's too close to call between Tories and Labour. Previously the Tories had a majority of over 7,000.

Three weeks ago John Cleese posted this:


http://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/866188904814260226


It just goes to show, kids: vote!

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

Ape Fist posted:

Now that I think about it with the DUP having some hand in the way the Tory government looks at the world it probably won't bode well for relations between the Irish and British Government considering virtually all wings of the Irish Government regard the DUP with at best a kind of low-rolling hatred and at worst a murderous animistic rage.

Friendly addendum: the other half of NI just elected the party whose constitution specifically forbids them from giving England so much as the time of day.

Fun times ahead.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Junior G-man posted:

New overnight Anywhere But Westminster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkrKIg_N_a4

This is kind of a random question but the video and all of this made me think back to our presidential elections.

The various accounts I've heard is that things are just as partisan in the UK as they are here but are they actually "violent?" I live in Texas and I remember talking with other politically active people during the US presidential campaign who refused to openly declare their support out of fear of reprisal. Like, they wouldn't have a pro-Democrat sign in their yard or a bumper sticker on their car out of fear of vandalism at the very least.

Is there any of that over your way?

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


lionlegs posted:

Kensington, John Cleese's constituency, has given up counting the votes because it's too close to call between Tories and Labour. Previously the Tories had a majority of over 7,000.



If the Kensington seat is up for grabs due to the non-vote of John Cleese, I may actually die of laughter.

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009

NewMars posted:

It won't, but hard brexit almost certainly will. Which is why the DUP wants to avoid it at all costs.

Why does closing the border lead to sectarian violence again? Reducing the likelihood of NI joining Ireland again?

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

lionlegs posted:

Kensington, John Cleese's constituency, has given up counting the votes because it's too close to call between Tories and Labour. Previously the Tories had a majority of over 7,000.

Three weeks ago John Cleese posted this:


http://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/866188904814260226


It just goes to show, kids: vote!

Isn't he still a Lib Dem?

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

https://twitter.com/thelincolnite/status/873013155533869059

this is amazing

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


NikkolasKing posted:

This is kind of a random question but the video and all of this made me think back to our presidential elections.

The various accounts I've heard is that things are just as partisan in the UK as they are here but are they actually "violent?" I live in Texas and I remember talking with other politically active people during the US presidential campaign who refused to openly declare their support out of fear of reprisal. Like, they wouldn't have a pro-Democrat sign in their yard or a bumper sticker on their car out of fear of vandalism at the very least.

Is there any of that over your way?

Well, it didn't used to be that way but the UK is on its way.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/nov/23/thomas-mair-found-guilty-of-jo-cox-murder

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord
Presenters on the BBC talking out about how the left surrounding Corbyn won't like him reaching out to Yvette Cooper and holding pack the party with centrists and right, get bent, centrists and right flopped 2010, 2015 and now it looks like Corbyn could be neck and neck or have taken this election if they hadn't spent so long sabotaging unelectable Corbyn and he gets more seats than Brown.

madey
Sep 17, 2007

I saved the Olympics singlehandedly
What does Labour need to do to get those scottish seats into the fold? Do you think the SNP voters will see that the indyref is miles off now and try not to split the vote again or will it be a battle to bring them over?

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Ragingsheep posted:

Why does closing the border lead to sectarian violence again? Reducing the likelihood of NI joining Ireland again?

Irish nationalists want as few internal barriers in Ireland as possible. Border checks and the like were a long-time bone of contention and getting rid of them (and making it so that you can de facto be "Irish" and move freely around the whole island) is a big deal.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Ragingsheep posted:

Why does closing the border lead to sectarian violence again? Reducing the likelihood of NI joining Ireland again?

Allowing irish people to live anywhere within ireland they choose without regard to place of origin or traditions is like one of the basic foundations of good friday.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ShredsYouSay posted:

I'm guessing Rees Mogg won't be happy being dictated to by protestant fundies
His nanny will tell them politely but firmly no thank you we already got your last newsletter.

NikkolasKing posted:

This is kind of a random question but the video and all of this made me think back to our presidential elections.

The various accounts I've heard is that things are just as partisan in the UK as they are here but are they actually "violent?" I live in Texas and I remember talking with other politically active people during the US presidential campaign who refused to openly declare their support out of fear of reprisal. Like, they wouldn't have a pro-Democrat sign in their yard or a bumper sticker on their car out of fear of vandalism at the very least.

Is there any of that over your way?
There was during Brexit, mostly against pro-EU signage but there was a bit of spraypainting of pro-Leave stuff too (mostly corporate billboards, not individuals' stuff).

Also the whole assassination of a sitting MP, but I'm told that was an unrelated incident by a quiet gardener.

The referendum was loving insane compared to any election.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
Not to mention that there are people who literally commute across it every day for their jobs. Or have family living over there and no passport. Or friends, or ect.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
that small majority eh

https://twitter.com/sarahwollaston/...parliament-live

https://twitter.com/sarahwollaston/...parliament-live

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

I'm lovin it

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Carecat posted:

Presenters on the BBC talking out about how the left surrounding Corbyn won't like him reaching out to Yvette Cooper and holding pack the party with centrists and right, get bent, centrists and right flopped 2010, 2015 and now it looks like Corbyn could be neck and neck or have taken this election if they hadn't spent so long sabotaging unelectable Corbyn and he gets more seats than Brown.

Yeah, Radio 4 this morning had a panel with Rafael Behr and Matthew D'Ancona; they couldn't even say the words "Jeremy Corbyn" and attributed everything to a poor Tory campaign.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Junior G-man posted:

Yeah, Radio 4 this morning had a panel with Rafael Behr and Matthew D'Ancona; they couldn't even say the words "Jeremy Corbyn" and attributed everything to a poor Tory campaign.

They are terminally butt blasted. Just severely and brutally asspained.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

"I Wish We Didn't Have So Many Personal Attacks" Says Party Whose Entire Campaign Strategy Was Personal Attacks

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Vitamin P posted:

Is this the most powerful potential awkward squad a government has ever faced?

I don't know about 'ever', we're basically in the tail end of the Major government except that's the actual starting off point. Next five years are gonna be laffo.

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