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The DUPs force the Tories to reverse the bedroom tax and prevent the welfare freeze and accidentally help them
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Imagine if they get that insane bridge to Scotland of the ground...
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Jun 9, 2017 13:17
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https://twitter.com/OliverMilne/status/873174412379516929
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Jun 9, 2017 15:35
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elections in france, and so in corsica, i saw this tweet and thought of this thread https://twitter.com/STC_CAB/status/873821789910073344
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Jun 11, 2017 19:16
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She's probablya bit young to be on hunger strike. Although the dirty protest would make sense
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Jun 11, 2017 20:45
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Got owned today by some of my friends. Told me they were going for a walk around the Wicklow mountains and that it wasn't gonna be tough because one of them had a bad back, ended up on a five hour hike on the hottest day of the year, a lot of which was through thorny bushes. Neither myself nor my girlfriend had proper shoes on or anything for it. I hope some of you have spent this sunny day more wisely than I did.
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Jun 18, 2017 18:07
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Today I discovered our constitution has a special provision for "social justice" in the constitution article 43 dealing with private property. I'd say having per every homeless person; 7 empty homes in the cities and 13 empty homes overall probably fits the bill of a social justice crisis worth invoking that for. Ironically in the US the right-wing politicians are trying to make their country more based on how they think the constitution writers wanted it while ours are doing the total opposite.
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Jun 20, 2017 19:01
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I started a monthly donation to the Simon Community. I'd volunteer but I'd find it too hard...
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Jun 20, 2017 22:09
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Bedshaped posted:Today I discovered our constitution has a special provision for "social justice" in the constitution article 43 dealing with private property. They haven't fixed the homeless crisis by now. How many years was it since the man froze on the steps of the dail. That should have been the kick up the arse but they let more Christmases pass unaltered. Now we've thousands of homeless families when the norm was less than a hundred. The government have no interest in fixing it. They promised to get people out of emergency accommodations and the solution to that was to rename the hostels to family hubs, and even with that half arsed fix they still missed the target of July. The ruling party will continue to set deadlines so as to be seen doing something, and then let them slip. Homeless families come from the class that doesn't vote for them. Like the Tories in England said, “I don’t understand why you keep going on about the need for more social housing – it just creates Labour voters."
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Jun 24, 2017 00:16
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Bryter posted:Imagine if they get that insane bridge to Scotland of the ground...
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Jun 24, 2017 16:41
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jBrereton posted:Bridges are so passé, Ulster demands a £250bil tunnel dug under the sea floor like the chunnel. Get all the semtex and hidden arms caches, I am sure we can move NI to rejoin Scotland if we place them in the right spot on the tectonic plate.
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Jun 24, 2017 16:47
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Is there anything to be said for having another (six) Referendums? https://twitter.com/chrisrdonoghue/status/912679794407608320 I think it's good that the one for the 8th Amendment will be on its own. The President Age of Candidacy one in 2015 was ridiculously under-covered by everyone because of the (admittedly much more important) Marriage Referendum. The one for Article 41.2 will depend on the nature of it - whether it's removing it or changing the wording or what. Removing Article 40.6.1 will be good also.
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Sep 27, 2017 12:01
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It's me, I want all the referendums
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Sep 27, 2017 12:37
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What are the practical obstacles to putting all of these on a single ballot? I know politicians will say "oh we need 18 months to commission studies and endlessly debate the wordings" but that's all bollocks really isn't it?
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Sep 27, 2017 13:08
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WeAreTheRomans posted:What are the practical obstacles to putting all of these on a single ballot? I know politicians will say "oh we need 18 months to commission studies and endlessly debate the wordings" but that's all bollocks really isn't it? Changing the constitution shouldn't be trivialized to the point of putting that much up at once. Each should be given it's due whatever way you feel about each one. The fact so many are needed right now is pretty loving sad but doing them all in such a short amount of time is not good either.
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Sep 27, 2017 13:25
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Each referendum costs €16m apparently, so bunching them up a little is good. Putting all 6 on one (especially with the attention hoover of the abortion ref) would definitely lead to some issues being overshadowed though. I think the above is a reasonable balance.
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Sep 27, 2017 13:35
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lemonadesweetheart posted:Changing the constitution shouldn't be trivialized to the point of putting that much up at once. Each should be given it's due whatever way you feel about each one. The fact so many are needed right now is pretty loving sad but doing them all in such a short amount of time is not good either. Blut posted:Each referendum costs €16m apparently, so bunching them up a little is good. Putting all 6 on one (especially with the attention hoover of the abortion ref) would definitely lead to some issues being overshadowed though. I think the above is a reasonable balance. I see your points, and obviously abortion will be the most emotive issue and take up a lot of attention. But yeah the figures I've seen say that a referendum here can top €20m, which is non-trivial even in governmental terms. And I don't see that putting them together necessarily trivialises the issues if care is taken by Government and RTE to inform the public. Matter of fact, as it stand now I could see "referendum fatigue" leading to reduced turnout in the Nov 18 ref.
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Sep 27, 2017 13:49
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WeAreTheRomans posted:What are the practical obstacles to putting all of these on a single ballot? e: Also do you recall ever casting a vote in favour or against this?
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Sep 27, 2017 14:12
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irlZaphod posted:Do you have any strong arguments in favour or against lowering the age of Presidential candidates from 35 to 21? I see your point, but I remember that vote well and I had a clear position on both issues going into the booth. I know that RTE and the Dáil would royally gently caress it up, but it really isn't that hard to poll the public on multiple issues. Doesn't Switzerland operate in a similar fashion? I know California puts everything to proposition, and they're an order of magnitude larger than us.
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Sep 27, 2017 14:20
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It's not just about polling the public, information has to be produced on each one by the Referendum Commission, and in theory each one should have equal coverage and debate in the media. I know some of them looks straightforward and simple but I guarantee there are going to be some shitheads complaining about changing or removing Articles 41.2 and 40.6.1.
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Sep 27, 2017 15:47
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Its Ireland, you should just be glad we are getting any kind opportunity for change in the first place. The distribution of the referenda is sensible, the cost is irrelevant. 20m is gently caress all to this government.
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Sep 27, 2017 16:59
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Southpaugh posted:Its Ireland, you should just be glad we are getting any kind opportunity for change in the first place. The distribution of the referenda is sensible, the cost is irrelevant. 20m is gently caress all to this government. True enough, I'm not exercised over it, just thinking out loud
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Sep 27, 2017 17:02
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irlZaphod posted:It's not just about polling the public, information has to be produced on each one by the Referendum Commission, and in theory each one should have equal coverage and debate in the media. I know some of them looks straightforward and simple but I guarantee there are going to be some shitheads complaining about changing or removing Articles 41.2 and 40.6.1. Look, any time this poo poo depresses you just turn your eyes northward and breath a well-justified sigh of relief that you aren't dealing with the contemptible shower of bastards we're currently NOT populating Stormont with.
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Sep 27, 2017 17:43
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Holy poo poo the KBC story is just incredible. It also makes me mad at the interest rate I am due to pay on my mortgage
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Sep 29, 2017 07:22
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Ah jaysus can you not link a loving article or something.
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Sep 29, 2017 07:57
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[quote="“lemonadesweetheart”" post="“476879083”"] Ah jaysus can you not link a loving article or something. [/quote] It was on Morning Ireland, they interviewed a few people affected by the switch away from a tracker mortgage and a few of them said their mortgage increased by €600 a month and had been stuck like that for years. Some fella reckoned it will/would have cost him €100k over the lifetime of the loan  Those are people who were somehow able to keep paying. A lot of people lost their homes shortly after.
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Sep 29, 2017 08:57
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I want to get something off my chest, god I loving hate this country and its pathetic kowtowing tax policies towards giant multinationals. And I most of all hate the way other Irish people think its some genius national policy to make the country the Cayman Islands of Western Europe, on reddit some guy said this to me: 'Im irish and i think its genius, as my moderately well paying job at a multinational underlines'. The worst part is the way that the government and people who support this kind of thing keep on trotting out the insipid rhetoric of 'Poor little Ireland must protect it sovereignty from the mean ol' EU and fight for its right to allow gigantic faceless megacorps to give loving nothing back to society because they grease the hands of the right people and everyone else believes the dumb propaganda, just as James Connolly envisioned :cryingGuinnesspint:'. I hate that whinging nationalist bullshit enough already and seeing it being exploited to suck the dick of international capital is beyond pathetic, what the gently caress's the point of being independent if noone in this country has enough dignity to hold such forces to any sort of accountability?
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Oct 1, 2017 12:34
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khwarezm posted:I want to get something off my chest, god I loving hate this country and its pathetic kowtowing tax policies towards giant multinationals. And I most of all hate the way other Irish people think its some genius national policy to make the country the Cayman Islands of Western Europe, on reddit some guy said this to me: 'Im irish and i think its genius, as my moderately well paying job at a multinational underlines'. I agree with all this but I’m so conflicted - if we hadn’t sunk corporation tax to the bottom would we really have such a (relatively) good economy? I just imagine we’d still be a developing economy if we hadn’t seduced all these horrific faceless mega corps with the promise of paying gently caress all back, or telling them they had social duties but with a wink and a smile. That said, if these corporations did in fact, actually pay the low rate of tax it’d be nowhere near as bad. People in other countries do see it as a genius move - it was quite realpolitik. Stealing multinationals from Europe because we could speak English, and taking it from the UK because we had a lower rate of tax. Get all the benefits from the EU while protecting us from giving them a fair shot. That said with the absolute shitshow of Brexit a Taoiseach with a bit more socialist acumen could eaaaasily use this to force multinationals to actually pay their loving due. But that’s not going to happen is it because it’s not about people it’s somehow, still in 2017, about brown envelopes and family dynasties.
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I agree with you OP however the hypocrisy around Europe on taxation is a little rich. Do you think Total, Veolia and Suez pay the headline rate of corporate tax in France? Do they gently caress. Speaking of sucking corporate cock, how much money have we spent on appealing the Apple ruling so far? We'll be tens of millions in by the end
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Oct 1, 2017 13:02
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The older people still remember Ireland in the 80s. It was horrible. My father had to go to New York illegally to get work back then. It was that bad for the poor here. So I can see how the older generations look upon corps and the 90s with such fondness. The problem with Ireland imo is the corruption and how everything is centred around Dublin.
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Oct 1, 2017 13:14
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Just wondering about how the environment was surrounding your marriage referendum? Like right now, ours in Australia is nonbinding plebescite and is a complete farce, in addition to being pretty toxic. How bad did it get?
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Ora Tzo posted:Just wondering about how the environment was surrounding your marriage referendum? I don't remember it being particularly negative. The worst stuff I'd hear from people like my dad, who in principle had no problem with gay marriage, complain that the campaign was being hijacked by Sinn Fein (yes, before anyone says anything I heard a lot about "those murdering bastards!" when I was growing up). I believe only one county overall voted against it. The Abortion referendum will be far more divisive.
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Oct 1, 2017 15:20
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I can't wait to see what % of media coverage will be given to men talking about the abortion referendum over women. 80%?
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Oct 1, 2017 15:48
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julian assflange posted:I can't wait to see what % of media coverage will be given to men talking about the abortion referendum over women. 80%? Priests.
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Oct 1, 2017 15:56
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We are so poo poo at corruption: http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/waterford-council-bought-63-vans-for-no-reason-808109.html "Dude, do me a solid and buy few vans off us" "Okay"
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Oct 2, 2017 21:56
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Interesting budget. I wasn't in favour of tax cuts at all but if there had to be some I would have liked to have seen all of the tax cut 'space' being used on the lower rate of USC. Everyone would have seen a benefit, but it would have been more pronounced for lower earners. Not great, but not the worst either overall though I suppose. For all FF's corrupt/populist faults I think they did a great job in keeping Varadkar's worst Thatcherite urges in check. Without their influence I'd wager we'd have seen huge tax cuts taking up almost all of the 'fiscal space'.
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Oct 11, 2017 12:55
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Should have just gone with spending increases OR saved some of it
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Oct 11, 2017 13:10
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Some fine reportage on our new government in the UK part of Ireland, btw: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b097tm63
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Oct 11, 2017 13:15
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jBrereton posted:Some fine reportage on our new government in the UK part of Ireland, btw: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b097tm63 bugsbunnysawingoffnorthernireland.gif
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julian assflange posted:Should have just gone with spending increases OR saved some of it they did all three
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