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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
This poll is closed.
Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

NRVNQSR posted:

Honestly a government of national unity for the duration of the Brexit negotiations might not be the worst idea for the country right now. Would probably kill Labour for another generation, though.

You could have a cross-party committee for Brexit, you don't need to have a full-on government.

And frankly, gently caress voting for anyone else and getting tories, AGAIN

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Angepain posted:

I was about to say "did none of them remember anything about 2010", but on second thought I can see why someone would want to block that out

I think it was "we'll have one of them coalition bollocks like we had in 2010"

I explained that nobody has enough to form a coalition except the DUP and the DUP would have trouble with that they can't support brexit.

Trin Tragula posted:

To be fair, when this happened in Germany they formed a grand coalition and now Angela Merkel has a fair claim on the title "leader of the free world"...

I did mention that the last time we did that was the national government and that was because the second world war was happening which might constitute unusual circumstances.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

NRVNQSR posted:

Honestly a government of national unity for the duration of the Brexit negotiations might not be the worst idea for the country right now. Would probably kill Labour for another generation, though.
I think there should be a crossparty Brexit team, I don't think it needs to be a full government of national unity when they're poles apart ideologically.

Trin Tragula
Apr 22, 2005

NRVNQSR posted:

Honestly a government of national unity for the duration of the Brexit negotiations might not be the worst idea for the country right now. Would probably kill Labour for another generation, though.

The way to play this would surely be the WWII gambit, in which Attlee ceded total control over the war effort to Churchill in exchange for a free hand in domestic policy.

(Of course, Prime Minister, you're no Winston Churchill.)

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Trin Tragula posted:

To be fair, when this happened in Germany they formed a grand coalition and now Angela Merkel has a fair claim on the title "leader of the free world"...
tbf they also did it in the 1960s when they elected a massive nazi to be the chancellor and the SPD backed him up for??? reasons

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/status/873145672672968704

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

He's quite enjoying himself, isn't he?

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
An amazing result overall that might actually be better in the long term than a labour minority. However I'm still mad about seeing Angus Robertson, who is cool and good, losing to a smug 14 year old boy with a blue rosette.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Gideon's having a grand old time and i could enjoy that if his economic policies hadn't killed thousands of the poorest and most vulnerable members of our society.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
Can a DUP Brexit even be called a Brexit? They want to keep everything the same, except for things the EU will not allow them to change in a million years.

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009

Gort posted:

You could have a cross-party committee for Brexit, you don't need to have a full-on government.

I was actually thinking that earlier this morning, yeah; it's been clear for decades that the Europe issue just doesn't fit into UK party politics. Unfortunately I can't see any conservative leader being willing to sacrifice the sovereignty of Cabinet.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's weird how people age 35-50 are apparently just so checked out of politics. Like, the "they should all sort it out" thing wasn't specifically brexit it was just politics in general. Like, they genuinely didn't seem to understand anything about why political divisions exist or even what the party positions are, just that "they're all looking out for our country so why do they need to fight?"

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Bwahaha vendetta-against-Theresa Osborne is best Osborne

DeadButDelicious
Oct 11, 2012

Leave me to do my dark bidding on the internet!

He's a massive oval office but watching his smugness of May being obliterated is a thing of beauty. After all the Labour infighting it's nice to see some Tory scrapping.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Gort posted:

Can a DUP Brexit even be called a Brexit?
You can call anything a brexit mate.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That and the lady who was telling everyone how her daughter couldn't figure out how to vote because she couldn't find jeremy corbyn's name on the ballot.

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!

jBrereton posted:

You can call anything a brexit mate.

I had scrambled eggs for brexit this morning.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

ThomasPaine posted:

An amazing result overall that might actually be better in the long term than a labour minority. However I'm still mad about seeing Angus Robertson, who is cool and good, losing to a smug 14 year old boy with a blue rosette.

I can sort of see this. If Labour had won the most seats, it would likely have only been by a small margin. This way, they get the whole "landslide" narrative with all the good press that comes with it, the Tories have to get into bed with the DUP horrorshow, while tottering along looking terrible, before finally collapsing into a new election where Labour can gain even more and end up with a large margin of seats.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

jBrereton posted:

You can call anything a brexit mate.

So can we not brexit and say we did

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
I did a brexit in my toilet this morning

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Gort posted:

So can we not brexit and say we did
It turns out the brexit was inside us all along.

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

Captain Mediocre posted:

Are there actually any residential areas for normal people anywhere in Kensington? How does this even happen

North Kensington isn't quite Kensington and Chelsea, traditionally it's always returned Labour councillors. Redistricting that placed Chelsea with Fulham reduced Tory strength a bit as well and Kensington was massively Remain. I went to the polling station yesterday despite never having had my candidate get within 1/3 of the majority needed. Glad to see my vote might have actually mattered!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzuKaTuk_lw

ChipNDip
Sep 6, 2010

How many deaths are prevented by an executive order that prevents big box stores from selling seeds, furniture, and paint?

Gort posted:

Can a DUP Brexit even be called a Brexit? They want to keep everything the same, except for things the EU will not allow them to change in a million years.

Most of the Unionist areas of NI actually voted to Leave. I doubt they would be wrecked if they got on board with the Conservative plans.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

ChipNDip posted:

Most of the Unionist areas of NI actually voted to Leave. I doubt they would be wrecked if they got on board with the Conservative plans.

The Conservatives just have to make some plans first, I guess.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Why did SNP lose so many seats? And what's the crash course of the DUP since the fate of the UK relies on them now

deletebeepbeepbeep
Nov 12, 2008
For someone who was asking about new MPs Lloyd Russell-Moyle is a proper good lad and would be fully behind Corbyn, they spoke together at a rally in Brighton before the last leadership election (Peter Kyle didn't turn up).

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
Strong and stable
Coalition of chaos

You really have to wonder at how badly the Tory election campaign was run, even down to their sound bites which have bitten back.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Why did SNP lose so many seats?

Their voters were split between Labour and SNP, and there was a lot of movement from SNP to Tory.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Gort posted:

So can we not brexit and say we did

Probably if the press go with it (they won't)

Gort posted:

I can sort of see this. If Labour had won the most seats, it would likely have only been by a small margin. This way, they get the whole "landslide" narrative with all the good press that comes with it, the Tories have to get into bed with the DUP horrorshow, while tottering along looking terrible, before finally collapsing into a new election where Labour can gain even more and end up with a large margin of seats.

My hope is that Theresa May just won herself 6-18 months of constant bad press followed by another election where nobody can seriously say that Corbyn doesn't have a chance and everyone's already heard the complaints against, yeah.

OwlFancier posted:

It's weird how people age 35-50 are apparently just so checked out of politics. Like, the "they should all sort it out" thing wasn't specifically brexit it was just politics in general. Like, they genuinely didn't seem to understand anything about why political divisions exist or even what the party positions are, just that "they're all looking out for our country so why do they need to fight?"

Yeah, Gen X definitely seems to be the most clueless.

I am reminded of an interview I attended with a company that was probably a scam where they said that we're generation X+ or something, and that generation X only interacted with as many as two technology a day, whereas we have as many as six technology.

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Why did SNP lose so many seats? And what's the crash course of the DUP since the fate of the UK relies on them now

Hubris, a single issue focus, and a wee bit of vote splitting to the first.

Religious fundamentalism to the second.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
lmao reports that the Conservatives had no idea this was coming, saw the exit poll, freaked the gently caress out, saw the first results dribble in, calmed down, saw the rest, freaked the gently caress out.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Why did SNP lose so many seats? And what's the crash course of the DUP since the fate of the UK relies on them now

Because independence turns out to be pretty divisive, and the crash course is that the DUP hate the gays and the sex havers and the Catholics.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

So, like, does Theresa May get knifed in a closet by the rest of the Tories now? Is that how party leadership shifts work?

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
The DUP aren't the only unionists who are going to put the squeeze on any kind of hard brexit, Scottish Tories have a lot of power right now

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Night10194 posted:

So, like, does Theresa May get knifed in a closet by the rest of the Tories now? Is that how party leadership shifts work?

Generally yes with tories.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006


Idgi

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Night10194 posted:

So, like, does Theresa May get knifed in a closet by the rest of the Tories now? Is that how party leadership shifts work?

That or she passes on her skin to the new host

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
Tess May is in an orangeman's pocket as is subtly portrayed by her literally being in an orangeman's pocket.

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