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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tsaedje posted:

Pretty much. Then progressive coalition pushes through proportional representation

Another possible upside of this result: Tories probably won't get their boundary changes that are definitely not gerrymandering through

Corbyn actually doesn't like electoral reform.

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Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Voters can go from SNP to Tories in 2 years? That's certainly a thought process.



Pictured: Voters certainly not going from SNP to Tories in 2 years

Edit: Oh, did you mean it's baffling that voters can do this? Re-reading your post maybe that's what you meant and I apologise for misunderstanding.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

NikkolasKing posted:

Saw this earlier but I just want to say that I feel sorry for Corbyn. I mea, I'm sure he's justifiably proud and happy now, but how must he have felt before this? That one talk show lady basically said "EVERYONE HATES YOU." I'm sure he's used to to BS from right wingers and even Centrists but that's politics. These other media personalities with "polls" constantly saying not just politicians, but every citizen in the country thinks he's a piece of poo poo?

i couldn't handle that.

There was an article a while ago about a party meeting in which various PLP members took turns making GBS threads on him and I'll never forget a quote about their goal being "breaking him as a man". If he could survive that, I think some idiots on the TV aren't a big deal.

CptAwesome
Nov 2, 2005

DesperateDan posted:

aye that's about best case for the tories right now lol

Haha

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/873157781263659008

Even though he should be guillotined first, I still like Osborne's pissing all over May at every chance.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

I love that Theresa May has promised to stay on, it ensures that her final U–turn will be her inevitable resignation.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

OwlFancier posted:

Corbyn actually doesn't like electoral reform.

I think he's pragmatic enough to accept it if he needs Lib Dem support to form a government

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

OwlFancier posted:

He's well loving hard.

Like, absolute loving nails.

Hard as a coffin nail, to quote AvE.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Gort posted:



Pictured: Voters certainly not going from SNP to Tories in 2 years

When the nationalist vote dies and Tory voters ain't shy that's a Moray

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

feedmegin posted:

Ummm given there was no such thing as a Tory til the 18th century!

For the subset of that for which there were political parties it's been mostly Tory

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
Tusk: congrats on forming another government, now let's negotiate a deal that causes the least possible disruption

read: ahaha soft brexit is the only deal now and you know it

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
I woke up and read up till 8 pages ago
to the lad in the chat : yeah, vallies are hard to get on the national health, but you forget we live in a country with a two teir health service, my man just goes to his private doc and says "works been making me grip my steering wheel too hard and my wrists are getting hosed, give me vallies" (thats a lie, he just goes in and says give me vallies).

I build computers, he works a lot, I'd prefer to accept non cash things in return for work done. (but not parts n' poo poo).

the NHS on the other hand, is understandably a bit uncertain about giving out drugs that are habit forming.


Our buoy Corbz eh.
mfw everything happened :
obs : :nws::nms::nws::nms:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

:spooky:
Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Voters can go from SNP to Tories in 2 years? That's certainly a thought process.

1) Sturgeon announced the Scottish Labour leader was secretly into an IndyRef2 so basically made the Tories the only option for NO voters who saw this election as another binary choice between AR FLEG or the road to a united Ireland.
2) The SNP are a centre-party who appeal to lefties because an independent Scotland would have a better chance of getting a lefty government - with a commie Jam man option the landscape got a bit complicated.
3) Wouldn't surprise me if there was the same amount of SNP voters that jumped on the Corbyn hope-mobile as Scottish Labour voters jumping on the UNITED Tory KINGDOM fuckshow.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
The clip of the Cambridge CLP singing the red flag is loving heartwarming.

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

WeAreTheRomans posted:

when you think about it, it's pretty ridiculous that you would change your name to that

Better than Man of Len

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Gort posted:



Pictured: Voters certainly not going from SNP to Tories in 2 years

Edit: Oh, did you mean it's baffling that voters can do this? Re-reading your post maybe that's what you meant and I apologise for misunderstanding.

Yeah, I was making a snarky comment about tbe voters. Do the SNP and the Tories have anything in common? Its the Obama --> Trump equivalent.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tsaedje posted:

I think he's pragmatic enough to accept it if he needs Lib Dem support to form a government

I dunno, he strongly believes in the importance of the constituency connection, so any reform I think would need to keep the constituency system.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

a pipe smoking dog posted:

The clip of the Cambridge CLP singing the red flag is loving heartwarming.

Do share.

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

Dan Didio posted:

lmao reports that the Conservatives had no idea this was coming, saw the exit poll, freaked the gently caress out, saw the first results dribble in, calmed down, saw the rest, freaked the gently caress out.

link

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

OwlFancier posted:

I dunno, he strongly believes in the importance of the constituency connection, so any reform I think would need to keep the constituency system.

Yeah, and I happen to agree with him on that as well, but there are plenty of systems that are more representative without getting rid of constituency MPs

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax
so is the 1 seat tory governing coalition the likely outcome or is there a chance you guys actually and up with jam granddad as PM?


WeAreTheRomans posted:

When the nationalist vote dies and Tory voters ain't shy that's a Moray

:discourse:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tsaedje posted:

Yeah, and I happen to agree with him on that as well, but there are plenty of systems that are more representative without getting rid of constituency MPs

Maybe, I dunno honestly if he's really firmly a fan of the current system because it's worked so well for him for so long.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

botany posted:

so is the 1 seat tory governing coalition the likely outcome or is there a chance you guys actually and up with jam granddad as PM?

Not yet. Very possibly soon. But not yet.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


gently caress I can't wait for the stories to leak from inside the Tory HQ last night.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

It was on the news a minute ago. I'm just in favour of singing the red flag + waving red flags

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

OwlFancier posted:

Maybe, I dunno honestly if he's really firmly a fan of the current system because it's worked so well for him for so long.

Even on a strict percentage of 650, today's result would only lose Labour 1 or 2 seats, Tories lose 41, Lib Dems gain 36

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

a pipe smoking dog posted:

It was on the news a minute ago. I'm just in favour of singing the red flag + waving red flags

The billy bragg version is very good, I'm not super fond of the christmas tree version, bit dreary by comparison for what is a very good song lyrically.

The DPRK
Nov 18, 2006

Lipstick Apathy
Sky News saying the DUP haven't committed to a coalition and are only in talks right now.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

BisonDollah posted:

2) The SNP are a centre-party who appeal to lefties because an independent Scotland would have a better chance of getting a lefty government - with a commie Jam man option the landscape got a bit complicated.
3) Wouldn't surprise me if there was the same amount of SNP voters that jumped on the Corbyn hope-mobile as Scottish Labour voters jumping on the UNITED Tory KINGDOM fuckshow.

3) is an interesting possibility and 2) is a good point - i know a lot of my lefty scottish friends were torn between labour and snp on idealistic and tactical grounds, and as someone who voted Yes in 2014 a successful Corbynist govt would definitely swing me towards hope in the UK being non-poo poo. I only voted snp this time round because my labour guy was iffy on King Jez.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tsaedje posted:

Even on a strict percentage of 650, today's result would only lose Labour 1 or 2 seats, Tories lose 41, Lib Dems gain 36

I agree, honestly, that electoral reform would be a good thing, I think that non majority governments are probably a good thing unless you're going full socialism all the time. But it's whether Corbyn thinks the same.

Owlkill
Jul 1, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

The billy bragg version is very good, I'm not super fond of the christmas tree version, bit dreary by comparison for what is a very good song lyrically.

Agreed, it's a great version. "Thatcherites" to the tune of "Ye Jacobites" is also a pro pick.

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
Also : can we have some visuals for a "Jam Uncle" or whatever is the most degrading, tag?

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

OwlFancier posted:

It's weird how people age 35-50 are apparently just so checked out of politics. Like, the "they should all sort it out" thing wasn't specifically brexit it was just politics in general. Like, they genuinely didn't seem to understand anything about why political divisions exist or even what the party positions are, just that "they're all looking out for our country so why do they need to fight?"

For a long time people have been able to mostly check out of politics (especially over in England since you have the NHS). The 35-50 year olds (and I'm in that camp) grew up in a world where politics was mostly a team sport hobby that didn't matter that much for most people. The kids these days have grown up in a world where politics matters massively and they're getting massively hosed over by politicians. Good on them for caring more. The kids are alright.

ShredsYouSay
Sep 22, 2011

How's his widow holding up?

OwlFancier posted:

The billy bragg version is very good, I'm not super fond of the christmas tree version, bit dreary by comparison for what is a very good song lyrically.

It's a shame we don't sing God save the Queen to the imperial march. It works very well.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

For a long time people have been able to mostly check out of politics (especially over in England since you have the NHS). The 35-50 year olds (and I'm in that camp) grew up in a world where politics was mostly a team sport hobby that didn't matter that much for most people. The kids these days have grown up in a world where politics matters massively and they're getting massively hosed over by politicians. Good on them for caring more. The kids are alright.

I believe that the children are our future.

Now give me a commie plat icon please and thank you sempai

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Yeah, I was making a snarky comment about tbe voters. Do the SNP and the Tories have anything in common? Its the Obama --> Trump equivalent.

I guess the only thing they have in common is unionism. And I guess Scotland must have selfish racist rich fuckers as well.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

The DPRK posted:

Sky News saying the DUP haven't committed to a coalition and are only in talks right now.

Talks delayed since it seems the DUP rep is denying the Tories the use of lube.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/868562780990959621

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

The DPRK posted:

Sky News saying the DUP haven't committed to a coalition and are only in talks right now.

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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
There's this weird myth that Scotland is inherently left wing but if you go back a generation the Tories had a solid presence in Scotland consistently through the 20th century riiiighht up until Thatcher.

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