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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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ThomasPaine posted:So any good hot takes about how this is actually bad for Jeremy Corbyn Ask JK Rowling
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Fans posted:It's not the best result but it by far the funniest ThomasPaine posted:So any good hot takes about how this is actually bad for Jeremy Corbyn
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I've seen a bunch of people say this is bad for the Labour Party because now it looks even more like unelectable Corbyn is electable so they're stuck with him.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Ask JK Rowling Oh god I want her take on this so much. It's like if voldemort pulled off the mask and was actually dumbledore the whole time.
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Jun 9, 2017 16:56
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It probably should be called Team UK tbh. GB doesn't just exclude Norn Iron but also athletes from the other islands.
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Jun 9, 2017 16:57
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The big switch I've noticed is that the right wing shitheads aren't going after Corbyn directy now in their attacks having more or less decided he's untouchable, but they're going after his base and the people who voted for him, trying to undermine the nature of the votes he received and arguing through the most mental of gymnastics that they don't really count for one reason or another.
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Lmao John McTernan resorting to the tried and tested debating tactic of 'no u' https://twitter.com/johnmcternan/status/873136544361721858
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Jun 9, 2017 16:59
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It was hilarious hearing Eric Pickles try to argue that Labour only got such a good showing because of young people and they only got them onside because of tuition fees. Right, so they did well because they attracted voters with policies that appealed to them?
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TheRat posted:They got the worst possible ending. They were reeducated. He gazed up at the enormous face. Two years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the white beard. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two jam-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Jezza. Murderion fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Skinty McEdger posted:The big switch I've noticed is that the right wing shitheads aren't going after Corbyn directy now in their attacks having more or less decided he's untouchable, but they're going after his base and the people who voted for him, trying to undermine the nature of the votes he received and arguing through the most mental of gymnastics that they don't really count for one reason or another. That's always been the argument- he runs up the vote in safe seats but cant win marginals. I'm really not sure there's any basis for it and it's obviously really self serving.
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OwlFancier posted:Oh god I want her take on this so much. Glenn Greenwald had the time of his life last night retweeting a bunch of old JK Rowling tweets. It was glorious.
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so, I've pointed out before that the old jam man is an old jam man and is likely to handpick a successor whilst his influence is strongest the Strong and Stable government makes this a bit tricky though - it might fall apart at anything, defection, by-election, etc., so there's never really a good time to risk the wave of enthusiasm
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I am sad jezza won't be sending jam to Merkel tomorrow.
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TheRat posted:Glenn Greenwald had the time of his life last night retweeting a bunch of old JK Rowling tweets. It was glorious. Greenwald is a choad, but that's funny anyway. Good for him.
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ronya posted:so, I've pointed out before that the old jam man is an old jam man and is likely to handpick a successor whilst his influence is strongest Jam Man is in better shape than most of us are. He's good for another decade at least.
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If youre wondering how this could be bad for Corbyn Im sure Nick Cohen has some hot takes for you.
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So I'm just waking up in West Americaland now... ... how the piss is May not directly out on her rear end right now? How the hell are the Tories not revolting? Ah well, at least they get to smear themselves with the poo poo that is the DUP now (and holy lol, I had not realized just how bad some of their positions were, they'd be welcome among the Deplorable wing of the GOP, at least).
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also, assuming the youth turnout argument is true, walking the Brexit tightrope is going to be trickier than ever. in that regard, really great jokes all around that the DUP delivereth us from sin
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Jun 9, 2017 17:06
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Firos posted:This is correct. No, it isn't. Also can people please stop banging on about how hosed May is because she went to the Queen without a formal deal with the DUP? She isn't. She leads the largest party; Labour couldn't get more seats even in coalition with the SNP and Lib Dems. It is therefore her right to form a minority government, and make the deal with the DUP to ensure passage of bills. That's how confidence and supply works. Remember also that the DUP have to actively oppose May to shut down Tory activity. If they only abstain then the Tories have 318 seats and only need 317 for a majority of the 633 participating. Jedit fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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So I'm confused about what DUP actually wants re:brexit. I assumed they wouldn't want to lose their open border to the EU, but now i'm reading that one of their main demands is that NI doesn't get any kind of separate status, so that it doesn't become de facto part of Ireland after the UK leaves the EU, I guess?
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Jun 9, 2017 17:06
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The Tories are basically left propping up a woman they openly loathe, because if her government collapses they have to fight another election. Labour would now be able to fight it on the attack, rather than focusing on damage control. Lots of Labour resources got pumped into constituencies which have turned out to be very safe, and there's plenty of very marginal seats to go for now.
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SpaceDrake posted:... how the piss is May not directly out on her rear end right now? How the hell are the Tories not revolting? they almost certainly are but the first part of staging a successful coup is not letting the leader find out there's a coup
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ronya posted:so, I've pointed out before that the old jam man is an old jam man and is likely to handpick a successor whilst his influence is strongest the country isn't ridiculous enough at the moment so why not have the tories move to dissolve parliament in the middle of a labour leadership election, turn up the chaos until nothing remains
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SpaceDrake posted:How the hell are the Tories not revolting? Tories are always revolting
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Shibawanko posted:So I'm confused about what DUP actually wants re:brexit. I assumed they wouldn't want to lose their open border to the EU, but now i'm reading that one of their main demands is that NI doesn't get any kind of separate status, so that it doesn't become de facto part of Ireland after the UK leaves the EU, I guess? You know the gordian knot? This is a gordian-klein bottle.
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SpaceDrake posted:
oh, they're absolutely going to do that i imagine most potential challengers are waiting to see how things play out before making a move, particularly considering the last leadership thing they had and how it played out for gove/ johnson et al
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SpaceDrake posted:So I'm just waking up in West Americaland now... Most prospective MPs have been up since before polls opened yesterday, and a lot of them have been in front of TV cameras at 4 in the morning answering awkward questions. The high profile ones have been in crisis talks since the exit poll came out. A large portion of the nascent Tory revolt is quite likely asleep.
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Shibawanko posted:So I'm confused about what DUP actually wants re:brexit. I assumed they wouldn't want to lose their open border to the EU, but now i'm reading that one of their main demands is that NI doesn't get any kind of separate status, so that it doesn't become de facto part of Ireland after the UK leaves the EU, I guess? yup. for the DUP, terms between NI and GB have to be at least as good as the terms between NI and RoI, so open borders and single market are critical RoI is always going to be pro-EU for the same reasons all small countries next to big and careless countries are fans of internationalism, drat the austerity so, tricky business all around
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ronya posted:so, I've pointed out before that the old jam man is an old jam man and is likely to handpick a successor whilst his influence is strongest Handpicking a successor doesn't sound like a Corbyn thing anyway. More likely he'd want to continue influencing party culture to the point where they would independently choose and stand behind a leader with left wing values. idk maybe that's too idealistic even for him?
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Huh, I guess the old jam man should get purged after all.
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SpaceDrake posted:So I'm just waking up in West Americaland now... It's hard to see who in the Tory party would want the leadership right now given that they're going to be reenacting the Major years with the added calamity of Brexit.
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/873178746651643904 that's one hell of a regression, I think waiting for the exit poll data to trickle out is called for e: vv agree
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This is way above my level, but my STA100 professor would have given me the evil eye if I tried to draw that line ronya posted:that's one hell of a regression, I think waiting for the exit poll data to trickle out is called for Yeah it looks crazy
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Murderion posted:Most prospective MPs have been up since before polls opened yesterday, and a lot of them have been in front of TV cameras at 4 in the morning answering awkward questions. The high profile ones have been in crisis talks since the exit poll came out. Right, fair 'nuff. I was just a little surprised at how fast May fell in with the DUP and how she tried to act like this wasn't a huge blow. Shibawanko posted:So I'm confused about what DUP actually wants re:brexit. I assumed they wouldn't want to lose their open border to the EU, but now i'm reading that one of their main demands is that NI doesn't get any kind of separate status, so that it doesn't become de facto part of Ireland after the UK leaves the EU, I guess? Essentially, the DUP want the status quo to be maintained, since it keeps the peace (and keeps them in significant power in NI) and keeps them in the Union. They want to maintain the open Ireland border simply because it's key to the Good Friday agreement actually functioning. Any kind of hard Brexit confounds that entire setup, and they wouldn't support it.
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waiting for jam-communist takeover of scotlab, my body is ready
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Angepain posted:waiting for jam-communist takeover of scotlab, my body is ready Dugdale to the guillotine
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ronya posted:in this vein, the top priority: trivialities As an American looking in from the outside, what is the subtext of UK vs GB?
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