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I'm the "Educating Girls" (nice weasel out of "have less children") line item that will save the world at no cost, buy my book to find out more Also it's merely a coincidence that all of my solutions fit neatly within a neoliberal capitalist box call to action fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Uncle Jam posted:It is very strange that they have so many forestry topics high on the list yet every other report have these as negligible items. If you look through the profiles of the top people in the organization they all have a very strong skew towards ecology and forestry and biomimicry and the like. There doesn't seem to be an engineer in sight.
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BattleMoose posted:If you look through the profiles of the top people in the organization they all have a very strong skew towards ecology and forestry and biomimicry and the like. There doesn't seem to be an engineer in sight. Funny I already listed one. Or is Dan Kammen not good enough for you, random poster on the internet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kammen He is an IPCC coordinating author and an advisor to this non-profit.
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Trabisnikof posted:Funny I already listed one. Or is Dan Kammen not good enough for you, random poster on the internet Firstly, he is not on the board, if you read what I wrote I was referring to the top people in the organization, ie, people on the board. Secondly, this is an appeal to authority. Thirdly, and repeating ad nuasem, unsubstantiated claims get rejected. Fourthly, an identifiable science person (with a name and a science career) reviewed the book and quoting and repeating. quote:The reader is told several times that the Drawdown project is based on measurement, mathematics, and rigorous modeling by scientists and researchers, but this is a case that remains to be made. The photo in the section called “Numbers” illustrates the dilemma. It is a visually intriguing collage of 20 tables of figures and their graphical display. However, it is only symbolic. It is too small to allow the reader to examine the content.
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Jun 10, 2017 03:33
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So Larsen C is about to become free: http://www.projectmidas.org/blog/another-step-closer/ While MIDAS seems to avoid any explicit reference to anthro climate issues, it seems undeniable that they're related. I wish there were a real time cam there to capture this, like they did in the Chasing Ice documentary.
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Jun 10, 2017 04:26
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BattleMoose posted:Thirdly, and repeating ad nuasem, unsubstantiated claims get rejected. Equally ad nauseum, the substantiation of the claims are in the book, you enormous fuckwit.
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Jun 10, 2017 12:24
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Hello Sailor posted:Equally ad nauseum, the substantiation of the claims are in the book, you enormous fuckwit. No they aren't. Read my previous post if you care to know how I know that.
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Jun 10, 2017 13:23
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i wish i were creative and not-lazy enough to make a parody drawdown with a bunch of options like "super ebola", "ww3" "are bangladehsi's really even people?" edit: "boomers voluntarily sacrifice a single little thing for the greater good"
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StabbinHobo posted:"boomers voluntarily sacrifice a single little thing for the greater good" The others are good but parody needs to be at least vaguely believable to work.
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Zack Labe's twitter is good to follow.
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It begins... Arctic sea ice is now 3rd lowest and Antarctic sea ice still hasn't recovered very well:
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call to action posted:I'm the "Educating Girls" (nice weasel out of "have less children") line item that will save the world at no cost, buy my book to find out more This is a really stupid take and you're a very stupid person. Also don't use the N-word.
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Jun 14, 2017 21:43
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New Report Finds Climate Change Caused By 7 Billion Key Individuals http://www.theonion.com/article/new-report-finds-climate-change-caused-by-7-billio-34658 quote:
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Unusual weather in Antarctica leads to rain and a Texas-sized meltquote:An area larger than the state of Texas in West Antarctica melted to an unusual degree last year, with pools of the meltwater remaining on the surface for as long as 15 days. That’s trouble, since meltwater can accelerate the thawing already occurring from warming ocean temperatures. Scientific study from Nature here: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15799
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http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/07/antarctica-sea-level-rise-climate-change/quote:Antarctica Is Melting, and the Giant Ice Cracks are Just the Start 
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If all that vulnerable ice were to become unmoored, break into pieces, and float away, as researchers increasingly believe it might, it would raise sea level by roughly 10 feet, drowning coasts around the world.
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We knew this would happen someday, yet my first thought upon reading that was how this will impact Seattle's tunnel project.
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enraged_camel posted:http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/07/antarctica-sea-level-rise-climate-change/ Look at the plus side, though: it would open up new areas for fossil fuel exploration!
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enraged_camel posted:http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/07/antarctica-sea-level-rise-climate-change/ Yeah that's the 3 meter figure everyone refers to. We don't know when that will happen but within 100 years seem reasonable.
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Trabisnikof posted:Do you feel the same way about scientists who get paid to do climate research and then publish that climate research in pay for access journals? The researchers don't generally see any of the backend; in fact, usually, they have to pay to be published there. paywalled journals are an enormous scam; they used to serve a purpose back when papers had to be distributed on paper.
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Fun .gif: https://zippy.gfycat.com/GenuineGreatGangesdolphin.webm
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Jesus Christ this is taking forever
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Banana Man posted:Jesus Christ this is taking forever Truly this is the worst apocalypse. You can see it coming from so far away but as an individual are powerless to stop it. You can only try to limit the damage.
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Jun 18, 2017 04:34
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And then my family posts videos of Tim Minchin singing songs about canvas bags and supermarkets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgtIziShmc Because that's going to make the difference. Its just impossible to communicate the scale of the problem and what solutions actually look like. [Never mind that landfilled plastic bags represent a pretty fantastic carbon sink.] /vent
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Jun 18, 2017 05:40
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This doesnt work, what is it?
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got any sevens posted:This doesnt work, what is it? The crack spreading across Larsen C over several months.
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got any sevens posted:This doesnt work, what is it? Does this work for you?  Can also try https://gfycat.com/GenuineGreatGangesdolphin
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BattleMoose posted:And then my family posts videos of Tim Minchin singing songs about canvas bags and supermarkets. A great example of a feels-good greenwashed environmental issue. The environmental impact of using different grocery bags is complex and depends on where the bag is made, what materials are used, how far it has to travel, how many times it is used, where it ends up, etc. Different bags affect the environment in different ways, as well: greenhouse gas generation, degradation time and ecotoxicity of end products, what an how many resources are consumed to create the bag, etc. This can lead to results that buck conventional wisdom. Disposable paper bags or reusable cotton bags can end up having a worse environmental impact than conventional plastic bags. Plastic bags that are engineered to degrade faster can have a bigger greenhouse gas footprint than regular plastic bags. This stuff doesn't matter to the average consumer, though, because plastic bags feel like they're unfriendly to the environment.
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NewForumSoftware posted:Does this work for you? That works. drat thats a big crack
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So is it gonna break off in July/August? How quickly will the break off happen after the crack reaches the other side?
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Lackmaster posted:So is it gonna break off in July/August? How quickly will the break off happen after the crack reaches the other side? Biggest fuckin wave since forever man, better sign up for helo drops so they live the 100 ft wave into eternity
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It'll probably just hang out in the area for a while and slowly break apart, is my guess.
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Climate departure: when mean local temperature exceeds historical highs. http://www.ecoshock.org/2017/04/the-time-of-climate-departure.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/science/on-a-warmer-planet-which-cities-will-be-safest.html http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v502/n7470/full/nature12540.html pir8 nature link: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-5-JeCa2Z7hbkhMcEp4alpxSUE/edit pro tip: real estate in Alaska is a good long term investment.
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Fansy posted:Climate departure: when mean local temperature exceeds historical highs. Sad thing is it's only going to get worse everywhere if we don't stop carbon emissions. In 100 years when Michigan and Alaska are the best places to live, people will be asking what waterworld platform in the arctic will be best to live on to escape the heat.
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That implies runaway a la Venus which isn't very likely I thought?
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Rastor posted:That implies runaway a la Venus which isn't very likely I thought? What does? A runaway greenhouse effect isn't something that will or really can happen on Earth, but it also has nothing to do with temperatures pushing up beyond the historical mean. Venus is a hellhole (probably) because of water vapor creating a positive feedback loop that boiled off its early oceans. Earth can get much, much warmer before anything like that happens. It's also not something that we can really trigger by dumping CO2 into the atmosphere, no matter how hard we try. Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Yuge difference between 'runaway CO2 emissions due to warming feedback making it too hot too fast for human comfort' and 'literally venus'
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Yeah surface temp. melting lead is a little far fetched, but we can certainly make the tropics seasonally inhospitable to human life by way of heat+humidity exceeding thermoregulation ability.
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What about the permafrost effect in Alaska? Will that make building construction more difficult over the next century? Farming?
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Fansy posted:Climate departure: when mean local temperature exceeds historical highs. Yeah the Nature article is especially terrifying because it provides a map of areas where potentially deadly temperatures might be encountered regularly  First one is with +1°C Second one is with +3,7°C That's potentially 74% of worldwide population exposed to potentially deadly heat.
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