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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

CoolCab posted:

Well in this case his pitch is somewhere between "people made up their minds late, foiling pollsters who can't afford every second before the election" and "the youth vote drastically outperformed most people's wildest expectations". Both pretty reasonable, and again, a lot of the election results this year were within the margin or error.
That was only a problem because they decided to ignore youth turnout as a factor entirely, and assume it would remain at its 2015 lowpoint.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


oh yeah what an rear end in a top hat such a shame he replaced the dude who enabled the mass starvation of poor people

11 years ago he was in a band who had gross lyrics

hang on a minute

is this going to segue into you pointing out 'black people music' has misogynist undertones as you continue the LibDem's accelerating slide into reactionary views on blacks and gays?

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Brian's back
https://twitter.com/BrianElects/status/873299064489750528

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010
Not sure if the thread alread shared this, but it's pretty funny: http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-book-of-jeremy-corbyn

Fat Lowtax
Nov 9, 2008


"I'm willing to pay up to $1200 for a big anime titty"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyCpM2oY54o

There must be some loyalist music that doesn't sound like weird karaoke...right?

Rubby
Aug 31, 2002

<3 Louby

Miftan posted:

Mods when are we all getting Corbyn gang tags? Also red and black flags for the UKMT anarchist division. Tyvm

Can't have gang tags without a gang tag. Considering the flailing hategoblin is the reason my wife can never move back home, stranding us in the US, I figured I'd do my part:

Renaissance Spam
Jun 5, 2010

Can it wait a for a bit? I'm in the middle of some *gyrations*


Pinterest Mom posted:

Well, this was a provincial election in Canada, but probably less of a self-own than Alberta 2015.

Alberta has historically been a very right-wing province and for the last several years the competition had been between a mainstream tory party and a far-right bunch of hicks. There were scandals, a new tory premier came in from outside Parliament, and he managed to convince most of the hicks to join his party.

He called a snap election right after that, and hosed it up so much that the social democratic party, which had 4/87 seats before the election, won a majority. The tories came in third, behind was remained of the hick party. This was the first provincial election the tories had lost since 1967.

I remember coming home on the night of the election (I currently live in Toronto but my family is from Alberta). My dad was outsude and asked me if I'd seen the results. I knew Notley had run a good campaign but hey, it's Alberta. If you're not Blue or a foaming racist you're not getting elected. So I resignedly said no, expecting a minority Conservative or Wild Rose government and having to be ashamed of my home province for years.

Instead the NDP walked away with a massive majority. It's basically the way I keep myself from going insane. If the NDP can dominate an Alberta election anything is possible.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Holy poo poo Lord Buckethead might be the greatest thing to ever have happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrpJ4N0ffgk

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
I get the feeling that Ian Hislop was not too thrilled by the result

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

TheRat posted:

Holy poo poo Lord Buckethead might be the greatest thing to ever have happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrpJ4N0ffgk

How is Lord Buckethead not an MP? That was glorious.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Gum posted:

I get the feeling that Ian Hislop was not too thrilled by the result

He's a libdem I think

Archaeology Hat
Aug 10, 2009

TheRat posted:

He's a libdem I think

I increasingly get the feeling he's come to despise everyone in politics of any stripe.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



I can't do it, but I would suggest the title of the jam man can with a nice rippling union flag. Jut my tuppenence worth.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

axeil posted:

How is Lord Buckethead not an MP? That was glorious.
Corbyn should make him his PR manager.

Renaissance Spam
Jun 5, 2010

Can it wait a for a bit? I'm in the middle of some *gyrations*


axeil posted:

How is Lord Buckethead not an MP? That was glorious.

What exactly is the deal with Lord Buckethead? Like I get he's a "joke" candidate but I get the sense there's more to it than a silly costume.

*edit stupid phone.

Magner
Oct 21, 2010

Fat Lowtax posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyCpM2oY54o

There must be some loyalist music that doesn't sound like weird karaoke...right?

If there is I haven't heard it. They focus more on their marching band music really.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Fat Lowtax posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyCpM2oY54o

There must be some loyalist music that doesn't sound like weird karaoke...right?

Maybe the secret to Irish Republicanism enduring is that it has a lot of great music. There's a ton on YT I've found and liked most of it.

TheRat posted:

Holy poo poo Lord Buckethead might be the greatest thing to ever have happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrpJ4N0ffgk

I just keep finding more and more reason to be jealous of UK politics.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

Buckethead's suggestion that NHS services should be free, but that they shame you with how much it costs if you did have to pay for it, seems particularly apt for the UK.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

that's a huge age effect. seems much bigger than the 2015 age swing

Tories are holding c2s as pre-election polling suggested, but regardless, amongst all of social grades, Labour+LD > Con

Digiwizzard
Dec 23, 2003


Pork Pro
You know I used to laugh at the idea of unskewing polls, but then it turns out every single UK polling company (except Survation) skews their polls.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

Unskewing polls was the practice of simply subtracting points from someones polls because you were convinced they were biased because they showed your side losing. Having an incorrect model is not skewing. If polling companies dont at least try to model likely voters, the poll is pretty much useless.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
You could say Yougov skewed their polls on election eve by suddenly adding in Don't Knows and guessing how they'll vote, which turned their mostly correct good poll into a mostly wrong bad poll.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
YouGov blinked.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

Buckethead's suggestion that NHS services should be free, but that they shame you with how much it costs if you did have to pay for it, seems particularly apt for the UK.

Oddly I believe that was once a tory suggestion, the idea of it teaching you to value the NHS is nice but in practice it would likely deter people from using the service.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

The new methodology that most of the pollsters used was horseshit. Who turns out is often a crucial, election-defining factor, and just assuming it will be the same as last time is basically the same thing as assuming that the result will be the same as last time.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Irony Be My Shield posted:

The new methodology that most of the pollsters used was horseshit. Who turns out is often a crucial, election-defining factor, and just assuming it will be the same as last time is basically the same thing as assuming that the result will be the same as last time.

They asked young people how likely they were to vote, and then when ~80% said they were certain or very likely, assumed they were just lying and wouldn't actually bother, because how it was before is how it will always be.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Julio Cruz posted:

They asked young people how likely they were to vote, and then when ~80% said they were certain or very likely, assumed they were just lying and wouldn't actually bother, because how it was before is how it will always be.
I think Yougov got it right - they said that the problem was that polling of young people was unrepresentative. More politically engaged people are more likely to do polls, and they're more likely to vote, so you get a distorted figure. Their approach was to try and make their polling more representative rather than assuming young people are lying and imposing a 40% turnout rate on them.

e: their herding on their final poll was loving awful though, especially considering they made the exact same mistake of assuming a bunch of people would vote the same way they did in the last election which the Tories won.

Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Jun 10, 2017

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
I would not like to be whoever made the decision to add in DKs in Yougovs in the final poll.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Some things I'd like to retrospectively lol at:
- mocking Corbyn for picking a communist campaign manager
- talking up May's "consistent messaging"
- doommongering about Theresa May campaigning in a bunch of safe Labour seats she didn't win
- that GBS poster who came in to land some sick owns and was quickly forced to argue that, for the first time ever, the exit poll was significantly wrong

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Some things I'd like to retrospectively lol at:
- mocking Corbyn for picking a communist campaign manager
- talking up May's "consistent messaging"
- doommongering about Theresa May campaigning in a bunch of safe Labour seats she didn't win
- that GBS poster who came in to land some sick owns and was quickly forced to argue that, for the first time ever, the exit poll was significantly wrong

Hey now May very consistently messaged that she was a complete idiot. You can't argue with her consistency.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Irony Be My Shield posted:

- that GBS poster who came in to land some sick owns and was quickly forced to argue that, for the first time ever, the exit poll was significantly wrong

I remember that! Or maybe I'm just thinking of the bbc election coverage

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Renaissance Spam posted:

What exactly is the deal with Lord Buckethead? Like I get he's a "joke" candidate but I get the sense there's more to it than a silly costume.

*edit stupid phone.

When darkness falls upon the land and an unpopular Tory Prime Minister is standing, Lord Buckethead is summoned to stand against them in their constituency representing his party the Gremloids. He ran against Thatcher (on a platform of demolishing Birmingham so he could build a spaceport), he ran against Major, and now he's run against May.

Basically the UK has a long and storied tradition of joke candidates whose purpose is in part to kind of poke fun at the absurdity of politics. From the Monster Raving Loony party to the Al-Zebabist Nation of Ooog they take part in all of the hustings and other events, somewhat ruining every serious photo politicians want to take and undermining the whole serious reverence of politics. The establishment hates them in general and they've done all sorts of things to try and stop them over the years, from increasing the fee that candidates need to pay to stand to in a few cases having the police have a quiet word with them. It's never dissuaded them.

It's pretty much the most British humour thing I can think of.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Humiliation for loser Clegg

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Skinty McEdger posted:

When darkness falls upon the land and an unpopular Tory Prime Minister is standing, Lord Buckethead is summoned to stand against them in their constituency representing his party the Gremloids. He ran against Thatcher (on a platform of demolishing Birmingham so he could build a spaceport), he ran against Major, and now he's run against May.

Basically the UK has a long and storied tradition of joke candidates whose purpose is in part to kind of poke fun at the absurdity of politics. From the Monster Raving Loony party to the Al-Zebabist Nation of Ooog they take part in all of the hustings and other events, somewhat ruining every serious photo politicians want to take and undermining the whole serious reverence of politics. The establishment hates them in general and they've done all sorts of things to try and stop them over the years, from increasing the fee that candidates need to pay to stand to in a few cases having the police have a quiet word with them. It's never dissuaded them.

It's pretty much the most British humour thing I can think of.

Also, of course, Brits aren't a big fan of anyone taking themselves too seriously, so the whole country absolutely loves these guys for it too.

Renaissance Spam
Jun 5, 2010

Can it wait a for a bit? I'm in the middle of some *gyrations*


Skinty McEdger posted:

When darkness falls upon the land and an unpopular Tory Prime Minister is standing, Lord Buckethead is summoned to stand against them in their constituency representing his party the Gremloids. He ran against Thatcher (on a platform of demolishing Birmingham so he could build a spaceport), he ran against Major, and now he's run against May.

Basically the UK has a long and storied tradition of joke candidates whose purpose is in part to kind of poke fun at the absurdity of politics. From the Monster Raving Loony party to the Al-Zebabist Nation of Ooog they take part in all of the hustings and other events, somewhat ruining every serious photo politicians want to take and undermining the whole serious reverence of politics. The establishment hates them in general and they've done all sorts of things to try and stop them over the years, from increasing the fee that candidates need to pay to stand to in a few cases having the police have a quiet word with them. It's never dissuaded them.

It's pretty much the most British humour thing I can think of.

That is the most amazing thing I have ever heard of. I need to see Canada get something similar.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Renaissance Spam posted:

That is the most amazing thing I have ever heard of. I need to see Canada get something similar.

Well we did have this last election https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6fhub9HDQ

Digiwizzard
Dec 23, 2003


Pork Pro
Joke Candidates exist in most Liberal Democracies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csE

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Digiwizzard posted:

Joke Candidates exist in most Liberal Democracies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csE

Vermin Supreme is wonderful.

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Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Hislop tells a great story about Buckethead when he ran against I think Major. When they were doing the line up for the vote announcement one of the officials came up to him and told him that by law he had to remove his helmet, at which point he replies "I can't. It's my head." The official had absolutely no answer to this and so as the camera's pan across the stage to show Major holding his seat there is Buckethead looming in the background.

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