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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed. |
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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
| Total: | 1817 votes | ||
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How many elections does Crosby have to lose before people stop going to him for advice?
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I think one more big cockup should just about do it
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Jun 10, 2017 09:54
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This looks like damage limitation, throw the evil viziers under the bus and reassure everyone that the PM is a Good Person who Means Well but was led astray by her devious advisers
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Jun 10, 2017 09:55
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Theresa May really, really hates Whatsapp doesn't she? You have to assume she's seen a bunch of stuff as Home Secretary that proves that yes terrorists are using it to organise attacks, but is she just clueless on the technology? All Home Secretaries are fascists because preventing attacks is a huge win for them whilst protecting civil liberties doesn't really get them anything, so the incentive to be authoritarian is too high. So the idea that these companies are encrypting their messages must really get her goat. But it's just a messaging service, I don't know if she thinks it's something more than that, the way Snapchat or Twitter were new forms of communication that didn't really exist before. You just send texts and it's a bit easier to make group chats, that's it.
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Jun 10, 2017 09:58
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ronya posted:historians of the future are going to be really sad that so much decisive stuff is locked up in a msgstore.db.crypt12 file somewhere Whatsapp quietly added the option to log conversations to Google a while back, and I'm certain that every single one of these people are doing exactly this to cover their own arses, and it'll get released well before the 30-year rule lets official channels see the light of day.
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Jun 10, 2017 09:59
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NRVNQSR posted:They're in the future, they're not going to have any difficulty breaking 2010s encryption.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:00
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that is, no exaggeration, one of the reasons to delegate tasks to SPADs rather than the permanent secretaries: they are disposable if there is political backlash, regardless if they are actually responsible for said backlash
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Jun 10, 2017 10:00
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She probably hates the idea that nobody can read it, the idea of something being literally beyond the power of anyone to control is probably difficult for someone who isn't familiar with encryption to comprehend. Uninterceptable messaging is, like, the holy grail of espionage and now everyone can download it and use it.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:01
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Never mind Crosby, remember that Obama's 2012 campaign manager Jim Messina was helping manage the Tory campaign. Twitter has been very pleased with the outcome. Edit: holy poo poo he was in Italy advising Renzi in the 2016 referendum. Renzi lost it and had to resign and Messina got 400,000 euros for his troubles. How do I get in on this? I'd love to lose elections for terrible politicians for loads of money.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:04
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ronya posted:that is, no exaggeration, one of the reasons to delegate tasks to SPADs rather than the permanent secretaries: they are disposable if there is political backlash, regardless if they are actually responsible for said backlash Sure, for them, but for the public we'd like the people who gently caress poo poo up to get the blame, not some no name SPAD.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:04
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OwlFancier posted:She probably hates the idea that nobody can read it, the idea of something being literally beyond the power of anyone to control is probably difficult for someone who isn't familiar with encryption to comprehend. Uninterceptable messaging is, like, the holy grail of espionage and now everyone can download it and use it.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:06
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You can read it perfectly well with a keylogger, though. edit: "it" being encrypted WhatsApp messages
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Jun 10, 2017 10:07
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If you want anarchosyndicalist flags there are about 10,000,000 on google images. Like this one, for example:  
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Jun 10, 2017 10:08
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communism bitch posted:If you want anarchosyndicalist flags there are about 10,000,000 on google images.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:13
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Zephro posted:Actually it's perfectly feasible to encrypt something such that no physically plausible computer could ever decrypt it (barring some fundamental advance in pure mathematics that lets you use an entirely different algorithm) because each extra bit of key length doubles the search space for the attacker at basically no extra computational cost for the defender [/sperg] You didn't open the tag. A shameful excuse of a sperg.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:13
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black power motherfuckers
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Jun 10, 2017 10:15
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Zephro posted:Actually it's perfectly feasible to encrypt something such that no physically plausible computer could ever decrypt it (barring some fundamental advance in pure mathematics that lets you use an entirely different algorithm) because each extra bit of key length doubles the search space for the attacker at basically no extra computational cost for the defender [/sperg] Yeah, but you can't rule out flaws in the algorithms themselves. Anything other than a true one-time-pad has a nonzero risk of having a flaw that either cuts the key search space right down or just gives you a straight-up shortcut to plaintext.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:15
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Zoran posted:afaik the research suggests that's not really a thing, and most people's political preferences become set basically for life in their first few elections Checks out. I've been a socialist since I was about 14 
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Jun 10, 2017 10:19
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Zoran posted:afaik the research suggests that's not really a thing, and most people's political preferences become set basically for life in their first few elections the iraq war made a generation of us then
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Jun 10, 2017 10:20
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Hoops posted:Theresa May really, really hates Whatsapp doesn't she? You have to assume she's seen a bunch of stuff as Home Secretary that proves that yes terrorists are using it to organise attacks, but is she just clueless on the technology? I read something pointing out that while MPs are generally clueless about technology, they understand people plotting on Whatsapp since they spend all their time plotting on Whatsapp.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:21
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What's the consensus on which was the greater act of a leader's hubris, decision to call EU referendum or GE2017?
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Jun 10, 2017 10:22
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Halisnacks posted:What's the consensus on which was the greater act of a leader's hubris, decision to call EU referendum or GE2017? It's still the referendum, because Brexit is going to gently caress the country for a generation just because Cameron wanted to shut up a few dozen back benchers.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:23
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I was a massive dickhead at 18 and it took a good couple of years in the army to turn me into a socialist.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:25
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 This but replace the cat with a jar of jam
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Jun 10, 2017 10:25
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Zephro posted:Actually it's perfectly feasible to encrypt something such that no physically plausible computer could ever decrypt it (barring some fundamental advance in pure mathematics that lets you use an entirely different algorithm) because each extra bit of key length doubles the search space for the attacker at basically no extra computational cost for the defender [/sperg] That was thought to be the case for a long time and it's the premise on which pretty much all current cryptography is based. Unfortunately a loophole was found back in 1994: building computers based on quantum processes rather than classical processes means that the attacker can double their search space without doubling their computational costs. We can't build computers like this at significant sizes yet, but it's only a matter of time. There are successor encryption technologies that can make even better claims of security but as far as I know we've only invented ones that can encrypt real time communication, nothing that can securely encrypt stored data. edit: Some additional research suggests that I'm behind the times on that last part; seems like some technologies have started to appear in the last couple of years that are speculated to be secure against quantum algorithms. We'll see how it goes. NRVNQSR fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Jun 10, 2017 10:26
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I can't wait until computational advances mean the only secure way to transmit information is by courier again. The cyberpunk future is real.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:29
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UrbicaMortis posted:https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/social-barometer-final-week?utm_term=.hbzAz0k2A#.ia2p6jLkp It's not even the 'left-wing press'. It's us. Common or garden Internet communists.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:31
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Well, I won't try and read the last 200 pages, but congratulations everyone.  Shame we didn't quite get the exit poll outcome and she can still form a government (with actual terrorist associates, lol) but I'll take it. Hope...isn't always a lie?
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Jun 10, 2017 10:32
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quote:It is worth remembering why it would have been difficult for Theresa May and her team to hold face-to-face negotiations with the Democratic Unionists this weekend - they would have run out of road in terms of time very quickly.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:33
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yeah, but you can't rule out flaws in the algorithms themselves. Anything other than a true one-time-pad has a nonzero risk of having a flaw that either cuts the key search space right down or just gives you a straight-up shortcut to plaintext. One of my favourite posts in the old bitcoin threads was a reply someone made to a guy doing the whole "Trillions and trillions of years" bullshit: "The algorithm's called SHA2 for a reason"
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Jun 10, 2017 10:33
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Sorry guys, no democracy on sundays.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:35
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Perhaps the government would be mollified if you changed your whatsapp message tone to a few bars of Lincolnshire Poacher.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:35
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Sounds like DUP needs to modernize their theocracy with prayer breakfasts. Maybe an orb of power for afterwards.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:38
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Sounds like the DUP need to gently caress off and murder themselves
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Jun 10, 2017 10:40
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Hoops posted:Sounds like the DUP need to gently caress off and murder themselves
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Jun 10, 2017 10:41
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communism bitch posted:Sorry guys, no democracy on sundays.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:41
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The 'if Corbyn is so great why didn't he win outright' idiots are starting to crawl out of the woodwork (on the Guardian, obvs) https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/10/chris-leslie-labour-should-have-won-against-theresa-may-open-goal
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Jun 10, 2017 10:43
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Can we just start the no-confidence votes already? Everything I've heard even most of the Tories don't want to go ahead with this. The next few months are gonna be a farce.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:46
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Robot Mil posted:The 'if Corbyn is so great why didn't he win outright' idiots are starting to crawl out of the woodwork (on the Guardian, obvs)
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feedmegin posted:It's not even the 'left-wing press'. It's us. Common or garden Internet communists. Not exactly. There's been a rise in explicitly left wing online news sources like the Canary and One Angry Voice that gets millions of shares across social media. They are as explicitly partisan as the Mail and the Sun and frankly skew the facts almost as much. I'm a bit dubious about them but since the insanely partisan right wing papers aren't going anywhere, I think it's better for the left to have something similar rather than just get screwed like it has in the past.
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