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widespread posted:That lineup looks pretty solid. I know I'd get into that Columns action. No, using carts is a bonus. It has games preloaded.
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widespread posted:That lineup looks pretty solid. I know I'd get into that Columns action. Nah, they come pre-loaded on the hardware. If the lineup's anything like previous hardware, a lot of those 85 games will be unlicensed crap.
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You guys seem unusually excited about this thing. Is it finally a reproduction and not another emulation box?
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No, it's another emulation box, it'd just be nice if someone could put one out that isn't a piece of poo poo.
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Jun 10, 2017 06:12
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Judging by the Atari Flashbacks, this won't be it.
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Jun 10, 2017 06:18
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univbee posted:They've done it, guys. Now the question remains is it going to have messed up sound like almost all of the genesis mini consoles?
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Jun 10, 2017 06:23
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Like I said earlier, this HD line of Flashback consoles uses a new processor and a new emulator and the ATgames producer has been talking it up for a little while, not that they've earned the benefit of the doubt or anything, I'm just being optimistic.
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Jun 10, 2017 06:31
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Game list: http://www.atgames.net/resources/assets/pdf/2017-Sega-Genesis-Flashback.pdf
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Jun 10, 2017 07:03
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God drat it how hard can it possibly be to just put a combined S3&K ROM on one of those things? Is Steam the only place where you can actually buy the combined game?
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Jun 10, 2017 07:07
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8-bit Miniboss posted:No, using carts is a bonus. It has games preloaded. Do we know for sure the cartridge port is functional? I could see them just soldering a ROM chip in the place of the port if they're bundling games. If it has bundled games and plays carts, that's pretty cool. kirbysuperstar posted:Game list: http://www.atgames.net/resources/assets/pdf/2017-Sega-Genesis-Flashback.pdf Cartridge games sapoorted! Mak0rz posted:You guys seem unusually excited about this thing. Is it finally a reproduction and not another emulation box? People went nuts over the NES classic and that was an emulation box  I got these games on genesis cart so yeah, I don't care.
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Mak0rz posted:God drat it how hard can it possibly be to just put a combined S3&K ROM on one of those things? Is Steam the only place where you can actually buy the combined game? You can still get that functionality on the Wii VC. I forget if it lets you do Blue Sphere and Knuckles in Sonic 2 as well. I seem to recall it does.
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Shadow Hog posted:Well obviously Super Bubsy for Windows 95 This is actually the correct answer. It just runs at a nicer resolution.
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Zaphod42 posted:People went nuts over the NES classic and that was an emulation box I'm referring specifically to the AtGames Mega Drives, which everyone seems to dislike here for one reason or another. Discount Viscount posted:You can still get that functionality on the Wii VC. Really? Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles we're separate purchases on the Wii VC if I remember right. Was there a way to combine them?
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Mak0rz posted:I'm referring specifically to the AtGames Mega Drives, which everyone seems to dislike here for one reason or another. Yeah, if you have them both you can combine them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXK-c1ppVKo EDIT: Also apparently possible on 360/Xbone. Discount Viscount fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Discount Viscount posted:Yeah, if you have them both you can combine them. Dammit if I had known this I would have bought them years ago 
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Mak0rz posted:Dammit if I had known this I would have bought them years ago If you've got a WiiU, you can still buy them through the Wii Shop Channel. Discount Viscount posted:You can still get that functionality on the Wii VC. Yup, it'll recognize Sonic 1 and 2 if you have them. kirbysuperstar posted:Game list: http://www.atgames.net/resources/assets/pdf/2017-Sega-Genesis-Flashback.pdf No Gunstar Heroes or Space Harrier? Utter garbage  .
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Jun 10, 2017 10:22
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kirbysuperstar posted:Game list: http://www.atgames.net/resources/assets/pdf/2017-Sega-Genesis-Flashback.pdf lol wtf is "Adventure in the Park"
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kirbysuperstar posted:Game list: http://www.atgames.net/resources/assets/pdf/2017-Sega-Genesis-Flashback.pdf Sonic 1 and MK1 screenshots despite the games being missing, cool
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2017 - still demonstrating why Sega is terrible at marketing and making products. Adding shovelware devalues your product in the eyes of the customer.
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My eyes made a beeline for "Snake" and I was not disappointed. Also, kinda cool but surprising that the list includes Master System games like "Fantasy Zone" and "Fantasy Zone: the Maze." Maybe it'll accept the Power Base Converter...
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cosmicjim posted:2017 - still demonstrating why Sega is terrible at marketing and making products. Adding shovelware devalues your product in the eyes of the customer. I once bought a very cheap handheld that used a clone Genesis ASIC that was substantially better than any of the AtGames crap I've come across. PCM samples clipped a little but otherwise it sounded alright and the games themselves ran very well. It's pretty pathetic that the official products released today are worse than what was available on the grey market in China a decade ago.
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cosmicjim posted:2017 - still demonstrating why Sega is terrible at marketing and making products. Adding shovelware devalues your product in the eyes of the customer. Sega just licenses the games, they don't make or distribute the hardware; same goes for Atari. They really should put a "hey don't try to disguise your poo poo as out poo poo" clause but they clearly aren't that picky.
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Anonymouse Mook posted:Thanks, I had a play with the sync settings. Add this is D input, it did not give me the option to modify sync level. I did try modifying the timings, polarities and autosync in various combinations with no change. It looks like the PAL PS2 is outputting at 49.99 Hz.
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Joe Chill posted:I think this means that the retro bubble is going to burst sooner than later, at least for the SNES. The bubble has been going on for about ten years now, so any nostalgia fueled buying of SNES games is just not there anymore. People with disposable income now have grown up with later consoles. The same thing happened with Atari 2600 games in the early 2000s. The 2600 market got flooded with repos at the tail end of its bubble. I went to Super Potato in Japan in 2014, 2015, and 2016 As of 2016 there's basically nothing left, it's just a tourist destination now.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I went to Super Potato in Japan in 2014, 2015, and 2016 Man that blows. ETA on how long before a maid cafe does a reproduction Book Off with sick deals as a fantasy realm you take your 20,000 yen an hour maid to?
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I went to Super Potato in Japan in 2014, 2015, and 2016 I can't say I'm really surprised since it's the name everybody knows. The Famicom throne is still there, right?
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The same thing has happened with the secretive arcade cabinet and PCB stores we used to order several crates from a year, it's all dried up. In our case (Swedish collectors) we think it's because we bought all their poo poo.
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Regular Nintendo posted:Sonic 1 and MK1 screenshots despite the games being missing, cool It lists Sonic 1, Shining Force, Phantasy Star IV, Mortal Kombat and Virtua Fighter II at the top, looks like the three column list is the other games in addition to the headline ones. Nice to see Chakan: The Forever Man included.
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Dave Angel posted:Nice to see Chakan: The Forever Man included. Why
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SwissCM posted:Why well, he IS the forever man...
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Dave Angel posted:It lists Sonic 1, Shining Force, Phantasy Star IV, Mortal Kombat and Virtua Fighter II at the top, looks like the three column list is the other games in addition to the headline ones. Oh poo poo
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MrLonghair posted:The same thing has happened with the secretive arcade cabinet and PCB stores we used to order several crates from a year, it's all dried up. In our case (Swedish collectors) we think it's because we bought all their poo poo. I suppose I should point out that I know for a fact that there's lots of retrostuff still floating around Japan at reasonable prices; you can just look at any online auction or marketplace site to confirm that. It sounds like the places that western collectors hear about have been thoroughly raided. Fortunately Book Off is too decentralized and cycles their material too much for this to happen to! 
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Spoderman posted:My eyes made a beeline for "Snake" and I was not disappointed. I choose to believe someone involved with the project deliberately put those games in as an in-joke to what's expected of an X-in-1 Games System.
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Random Stranger posted:I can't say I'm really surprised since it's the name everybody knows. The Famicom throne was removed sometime after the 2011 earthquake, sadly. The Akihabara Super Potato has been largely picked over, but there are other locations for the chain. The one in Ikebukuro is a lot smaller, but it was pretty well stocked when I visited it recently.
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Random Stranger posted:I suppose I should point out that I know for a fact that there's lots of retrostuff still floating around Japan at reasonable prices; you can just look at any online auction or marketplace site to confirm that. It sounds like the places that western collectors hear about have been thoroughly raided. Said arcade collector friends moan about yahoo.jp snipers  but they're happy to drop Nintendo-item prices on anything with CAVE written on it
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Do PAL and NTSC arcade machines both run at 60 mhz, or do the PAL machines run slower like the console games?
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Willo567 posted:Do PAL and NTSC arcade machines both run at 60 mhz, or do the PAL machines run slower like the console games? They're rgb so maybe its one universal refresh rate?
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Got my EZFlash IV. Seems legit enough. Now to figure out how to work V2.00, which seems to be literally cutting edge.
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Willo567 posted:Do PAL and NTSC arcade machines both run at 60 mhz, or do the PAL machines run slower like the console games? Nearly all commercially produced arcade machines ran at 60 hz, because Japan and America were the biggest primary markets by far, and incompatibility with existing TV sets in PAL countries didn't matter. There are a very small amount of UK/contintental Europe release only arcade machines that used 50 hz displays. Separate from this issue, there were a few machines from time to time that used refresh rates in the 53-56 hz range to squeeze more vertical resolution on certain monitors. This was again something they could do because you had no need to worry about an existing TV standard. I think one of the early Mortal Kombats did this?
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I think it was more than "a few". Off the top of my head: First two Toaplan 68k board series (Flying Shark/Twin Cobra/Truxton/OutZone) Irem's m72 hardware (R-Type, Image Fight, etc. 55hz, looks jerky as gently caress on 60hz monitors) Seibu SPI (Raiden Fighters) 1st-gen Cave (DonPachi, Air Gallet) IGS PGM Really, if you click through a lot of the weird hz values under "Refresh" in MAME UI variants, there are quite a lot of games that used them. In fact, I'd estimate that they are the rule rather than the exception. e: I have failed, 60hz games are 4000+. Still more than a few, more like "several". 
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