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Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Well as long as no robot takes my job as the foreman at the coal mine once Trump gets it back open I don't care what Amazon does!

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LaserShark
Oct 17, 2007

It's over, idiot. You're gonna die here and now, and the last words out of your mouth will have been 'poop train.'

I'll be honest, that's kinda adorable.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

LaserShark posted:

I'll be honest, that's kinda adorable.
She should be more careful with her phone around trump, tbqh

Ever Disappointing
May 4, 2004

edit: loving nevermind drat you invictus

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


LaserShark posted:

I'll be honest, that's kinda adorable.

her name is huckabee and she named her son huck. there is nothing adorable about it.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Groovelord Neato posted:

her name is huckabee and she named her son huck. there is nothing adorable about it.
Should have named him Sand.

Sand-Huck Huckabee Sanders.

Also it's alarming that it took her 2 hours to respond. When your line of work is communications you probably ought to be more connected to communication.

Milosh
Oct 14, 2000
Forum Veteran

Night10194 posted:

I picked a loving great time to go back to school to become a social worker! :unsmith:

As a fellow social worker, don't worry there will be tons of work with disaffected families and individuals. It just won't pay that great 😔

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

ZobarStyl posted:

Conservatives just aren't cut out for the digital age of perfect, searchable memory. They're so used to writing utterly contradictory things then conveniently having them fade from view. It especially has to drive Trump insane that all of his normal tactics of bullying and gaslighting will have no utility in this arena.

But it still works. The FOX NEws, talk radio bubble, combined with the evangelical television industry, seems to make it not matter all that much.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Milosh posted:

As a fellow social worker, don't worry there will be tons of work with disaffected families and individuals. It just won't pay that great 😔

That's why I switched, though. The election was what convinced me to swap professions instead of going into my PhD in religious studies. Just doesn't feel right to stay in pure academia when there's a likely tide of suffering incoming.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/873526177960411137
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/873526655108689920
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/873554056056381444
https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/873550572129054720
https://twitter.com/BruceBartlett/status/873536390172114944

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/873571208075198465

Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jun 10, 2017

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

skylined! posted:

guys what if petr is right and the president with the lowest approval rating this early in his administration who can't do anything aligned with his cabinet and can't control himself on social media and by all accounts is a complete loving moron and is likely being manipulated by foreign governments and who can't help himself from committing obvious crimes directly in front of senior government officials actually really becomes god king emperor and rules america for 1000 years of golden piss darkness

:ohdear:

Don't get me wrong, it could be done. BUT, that would require him to listen to and take advice from the "peons" below him, keep his mouth shut, stop tweeting, and basically stop being the world's orangest rear end in a top hat.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

empty whippet box posted:

Is there really nobody in the entire world they can hire who doesn't have ties to Russia?

there are, but those people refuse to be part of it


People are really overthinking this

All that went through Trump's head was "My people and I are getting blasted by Russia ties. The FBI is leading this. Try to get loyalty over honesty from leader of FBI through your standard businessman intimidation of removing him from his job if he doesn't comply. Fire him when he refuses to get someone else that will follow me instead of law"

That's it, all of it.

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jun 10, 2017

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

SocketWrench posted:

Don't get me wrong, it could be done. BUT, that would require him to listen to and take advice from the "peons" below him, keep his mouth shut, stop tweeting, and basically stop being the world's orangest rear end in a top hat.

Ah, the mythical "pivot". I've heard tell of this event, in whispered rumors and idle gossip.

It begins with a declaration from the media that in this moment, finally, Trump has become President. There must be a second step, but none of the scholars have identified what it is.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Maybe "this is the moment trump became predisent" poo poo from the media is why trump keeps bringing up his election win. Keeps thinking it's still
Nov 10th over and over again.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


has van jones ever apologized for that poo poo.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

ZobarStyl posted:

Conservatives just aren't cut out for the digital age of perfect, searchable memory. They're so used to writing utterly contradictory things then conveniently having them fade from view. It especially has to drive Trump insane that all of his normal tactics of bullying and gaslighting will have no utility in this arena.

Except they can just unload so much misinformation that searching for the right info can be troublesome and can fool vast amounts of people who lack the required critical thinking skills and instantly believe Killary Killton (or Clit-ton) killed Seth Rich or has demonic abortion rituals.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

"We need to stop sinking time into castles around the world before an Easter Island statue flies a plane into a Japanese building.
Stop rolling over and stop building fountains and trains. Stop railways, boats and trains"

That's what I read

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Huck is actually short for Chuckleberry. The delicious cereal with a clown on the box she named her son after.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

SocketWrench posted:


People are really overthinking this

All that went through Trump's head was "My people and I are getting blasted by Russia ties. The FBI is leading this. Try to get loyalty over honesty from leader of FBI through your standard businessman intimidation of removing him from his job if he doesn't comply. Fire him when he refuses to get someone else that will follow me instead of law"

That's it, all of it.

They're not overthinking it so much as they're attempting to justify unjustifiable behavior within the limited lanes available after the President so thoroughly boxed himself in. Hence an article explaining what Trump was "really doing" that doesn't reference what Trump actually said he was doing.

Edit: Huck (or even better) Huckleberry Sanders is a perfectly fine name for a kid. It's unconventional but at least its grounded in a solid literary reference. In a world where parents are naming their kids Khaleesi this is a dumb thing to criticize her over.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jun 10, 2017

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Every time he gets an Uber the driver will look at him and say "Huck you?"

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Alternative, he gets to initate random conversations as an eventual adult with "I'm your huckleberry." Which owns.

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Huck?

This entire administration is the irl manifestation of Tom Sawyer tricking Ben Rogers into whitewashing the fence.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

There's nothing ironic about that. That's one of the many reasons why coal mining is an outdated remnant of the past. Unfortunately republicans have a weird obsession with bringing back those lovely times.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Presumably, the kid's surname isn't hyphenated, so its a nice nod to his mom's side of the family. If my wife's maiden name worked as a first name, I'd be down with using it as a kids name.

cant cook creole bream posted:

There's nothing ironic about that. That's one of the many reasons why coal mining is an outdated remnant of the past. Unfortunately republicans have a weird obsession with bringing back those lovely times.

They have no intention of bringing back coal mining as a viable employer for coal country. Rather they value the imagery as a means to an end of less regulation. The ironic thing is that large chunks of coal country were built on the back of massive infrastructure development under Roosevelt in response to the industrial revolution making a a shitton of old jobs obsolete. So now they vote against even the slightest possibility of the type of program that made the American dreams of their grandfathers because there's a chance that dreaded others might also benefit. I think ultimately the diversity of the mature American economy has prevented a sufficiently massive and sustained depression where enough of the country is willing to chance a new, new deal.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jun 10, 2017

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Captain Invictus posted:

like that flooding where the cleanup would require what, like 560 million dollars, and he offered 2 million. that one that has already happened?

Nah, i'm talking about a major city getting completely decimated, Katrina scale. That was bad, but not the kind of national scale bad that put George W. Bush in the ditch. Admittedly, much like Bush got a boost from 911 that I don't think a comparable event would give Trump, there's not quite as much mushy middle for Trump to lose in a Katrina event as Bush had. But it would nonetheless hurt him, and he doesn't have as much approval to lose as bush did then, either.

Starmaker
Dec 29, 2009

My people I bring you a message from the Lord!

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

They're not overthinking it so much as they're attempting to justify unjustifiable behavior within the limited lanes available after the President so thoroughly boxed himself in. Hence an article explaining what Trump was "really doing" that doesn't reference what Trump actually said he was doing.

Edit: Huck (or even better) Huckleberry Sanders is a perfectly fine name for a kid. It's unconventional but at least its grounded in a solid literary reference. In a world where parents are naming their kids Khaleesi this is a dumb thing to criticize her over.

Huckleberry Huckabee?

LaserShark
Oct 17, 2007

It's over, idiot. You're gonna die here and now, and the last words out of your mouth will have been 'poop train.'

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Edit: Huck (or even better) Huckleberry Sanders is a perfectly fine name for a kid. It's unconventional but at least its grounded in a solid literary reference. In a world where parents are naming their kids Khaleesi this is a dumb thing to criticize her over.

This. In a word containing Reality Winner, why are we having this conversation?

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010

*Yosh intensifies*

quote:

The slower phase-out is designed to insulate incumbent Republican elected officials from the public backlash that is sure to ensue. By the time the cuts take effect, the vote to enact them will have been long past. Indeed, Republicans may not even control government at that point.

quote:

Republicans have a very different belief. They have no confidence the public will like what the law does when they see it. Instead they believe the opposite, which they have confessed with shocking bluntness. “I don’t think this gets better over time,” said Republican Missouri senator Roy Blunt, a member of leadership. “This is not like fine wine, it doesn’t get better with age,” admits Lindsey Graham.

Guess the Senate GOP knows its bad but feel forced to put it out, and is just trying to slow down the eventual backfiring.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

Starmaker posted:

Huckleberry Huckabee?

I, too, believe that the daughter of a fundamentalist minister/conservative republican politician would insist that her children not take the name of her husband.

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

Ventana posted:

Guess the Senate GOP knows its bad but feel forced to put it out, and is just trying to slow down the eventual backfiring.
When do these guys finally admit to being members of loving Hydra already?

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Ventana posted:

Guess the Senate GOP knows its bad but feel forced to put it out, and is just trying to slow down the eventual backfiring.

Yeah, but this isn't really new information. We were discussing this fact months ago, back when it was actually unlikely that Republicans would get anything through. :smith:

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I mean, its great policy if you've given up on governing. Let's set a few bombs so we can blame the democrats for conceeding to our demands to fix them.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



Hm weird, the hole where Kurt Eichenwald once stood with a shovel and tentacle porn is getting even deeper and deeper two days after the whole ordeal. Let's check in
https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/873572423735676929

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sVVl2EKgUU

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

JazzFlight posted:

When do these guys finally admit to being members of loving Hydra already?

This is why, while i dont believe theres an actual conspiracy, the GOP is the puppet of the Russian inteligence services.

Its the only way their behavior can be rationalized outside of Mammon being real and having killed the Abrahamic God.

Come to think of it I'm not sure theres an interpretable difference.

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008


Captain Invictus posted:

Another thing is that trump is not going to get better. This isn't George bush, he's not an actually smart guy playing dumb, he has a fundamental lacking of how the government operates at even a basic level. The longer this goes on, the more disastrous it will be for him and the gop.

And I have little doubt the intelligence community will do everything in their power to ruin him, as well.
The republican party has to know that sticking with trump is only going to get much worse, but they still havent completely turned on him. They must really think turning on trump will either turn the base on them completely, or just utterly split and destroy the party.

I wonder if they know they're utterly hosed either way, and are going to just now go all out on ruining everything so democrats take the blame when they get in office. "both sides are bad" seems to be thier only way out without being utterly crushed.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

cant cook creole bream posted:

There's nothing ironic about that. That's one of the many reasons why coal mining is an outdated remnant of the past. Unfortunately republicans have a weird obsession with bringing back those lovely times.

Go back one page in this thread and people are fearing the march of automation will take their jobs. In 30 years we will be the old people begging the president to bring back our lovely old jobs that a robot does way better while kids get jobs teaching french to people's cats or eating whole fish on youtube while we old people freak out that that isn't a real job and everything is terrible now.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Tengames posted:

The republican party has to know that sticking with trump is only going to get much worse, but they still havent completely turned on him. They must really think turning on trump will either turn the base on them completely, or just utterly split and destroy the party.

I wonder if they know they're utterly hosed either way, and are going to just now go all out on ruining everything so democrats take the blame when they get in office. "both sides are bad" seems to be thier only way out without being utterly crushed.

You can kind of see this by them trying to assassinate Comey's character indirectly because they don't want anyone to actually have the conscious thought "whom do I trust not to lie more?" because that sentence spells doom for the GOP in the long run. Their voters right now believe they will do the right thing.

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

Go back one page in this thread and people are fearing the march of automation will take their jobs. In 30 years we will be the old people begging the president to bring back our lovely old jobs that a robot does way better while kids get jobs teaching french to people's cats or eating whole fish on youtube while we old people freak out that that isn't a real job and everything is terrible now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWmkXRrr2YY

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

RuanGacho posted:

This is why, while i dont believe theres an actual conspiracy, the GOP is the puppet of the Russian inteligence services.

They're just lovely and have gotten away with being lovely for so long that they don't feel the need to be particularly transparent about it. That's it. I have no idea how deep Trump's Russia ties or or where those ties lead elsewhere in the GOP (if anywhere), but you honestly don't need anything more than "Republican politicians are human garbage" to explain their behavior.

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The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

RuanGacho posted:

This is why, while i dont believe theres an actual conspiracy, the GOP is the puppet of the Russian inteligence services.

Its the only way their behavior can be rationalized outside of Mammon being real and having killed the Abrahamic God.

Come to think of it I'm not sure theres an interpretable difference.

It could just that they're all assholes who no longer even care about the veneer of improving things and just fine being explicit about looting the country to give their rich friends and donors more money

Like, when Bush tried to privatize social security, he atleast pretended it would improve things. Same with medicare part d, it improved some issues while being a giant corporate hand out at the same time.

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