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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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nothing to seehere posted:IIRC, each party got 80% of their 2015 vote, and both Labour and Tories had 10% of their 2015 vote defect to the other side. So assuming voters have become polarised and hyper-partisan, the only changeable factor is demographics. Therefore Labour just need to hang in there whilst Father Time does his thing. gently caress the old. Ban them from voting after a certain, medically agreed, time period based on when mental acuity and cognition deteriorates.
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Ruth Davidson picking up her Scottish Tory ball and going home over this would make a loving hilarious GE even funnier.
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Jun 10, 2017 17:59
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May can't afford to punish Tories who defy a confidence vote. What's she gonna do, kick them out?
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TheRat posted:Idk dude, anecdotally a lot of the pundits travelling around were talking about older people going con->lab due to social care issues. possibly but that had to be more than offset by people going the opposite direction because they want a red, white and blue Brexit.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:00
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ronya posted:May can't afford to punish Tories who defy a confidence vote. What's she gonna do, kick them out? May's beyond hosed. She's got no reasonable way out of this.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:00
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Somebody was asking earlier how many LGBT tories there are. According to this article it's 19.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:01
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TheRat posted:Idk dude, anecdotally a lot of the pundits travelling around were talking about older people going con->lab due to social care issues. It's actually in the Tory's interests to push this narrative, because the alternative is acknowledging that even with the olds it was so close and then they would have to do out reach to other groups.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:01
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have any of the senior cabinet members come out in support of may yet i see lots of quotes from backbench nobodies, but nothing from bozza/hammond/davis/etc
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Jun 10, 2017 18:01
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coffeetable posted:have any of the senior cabinet members come out in support of may yet Sky News were reporting that Hammond was absolutely furious with May and that he had demanded 1) She apologise to the MPs who lost their seat on live television, and 2) She sack her two advisers.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:03
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coffeetable posted:have any of the senior cabinet members come out in support of may yet Borris Johnson declined to give his support when asked directly on TV. Hammond and his supporters are openly briefing against May in the Tory Press. Davis has said gently caress all.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:04
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Number 10 source has confirmed that talks will include possibility of formal coalition, so whoever that MP is asking if they have any idea how toxic it is has their answer.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:05
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Skinty McEdger posted:Borris Johnson declined to give his support when asked directly on TV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nx2Ut7K8Is
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Jun 10, 2017 18:07
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Skinty McEdger posted:Davis has said gently caress all. What's new
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Jun 10, 2017 18:08
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Skinty McEdger posted:Borris Johnson declined to give his support when asked directly on TV. A rumour I heard on Sky was that it was Davis who convinced May to call the election. If true, he's probably laying as low as possible.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:08
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Baron Corbyn posted:Number 10 source has confirmed that talks will include possibility of formal coalition, so whoever that MP is asking if they have any idea how toxic it is has their answer.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:08
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Joda posted:Yeah, let's exclude the UK from participating in international software development. That'll secure the economy for decades! Well, it would take out some major competitors to my own countries IT-sector, so it is indeed good for the economy. Just not the British one.  (But seriously, my own mother, who at one point confused my mouse with a microphone, could come up with a better IT-plan.)
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Jun 10, 2017 18:08
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I would love it if several Tory MPs cross the floor and become independent or whatever.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:08
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Skinty McEdger posted:It's actually in the Tory's interests to push this narrative, because the alternative is acknowledging that even with the olds it was so close and then they would have to do out reach to other groups. Yeah the tories desperately need to keep pushing the line that they only did badly because of their social care missteps and poor campaign. I would really like to see a breakdown of what proportion of the vote for each party comes from each age bracket, it's good to know how each age range voted but it would be better to know just how many votes actually came from that 65+ Tory goldmine compared to the younger pro-Labour demographics.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:09
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TheRat posted:Sky News were reporting that Hammond was absolutely furious with May and that he had demanded 1) She apologise to the MPs who lost their seat on live television, and 2) She sack her two advisers. In fairness, if she'd done better Hammond was expected to be the first name gone in a reshuffle. I've no idea what the problem is there but there clearly is one, you don't sack the Chancellor on a whim Nissin Cup Nudist posted:this is amazing If you think that's good, go on left Twitter & see people mocking one guy who suggested "this was actually a genius PR move". It's loving wonderful and very funny. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:Number 10 source has confirmed that talks will include possibility of formal coalition, so whoever that MP is asking if they have any idea how toxic it is has their answer. 
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Jun 10, 2017 18:09
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I still think formal coalition remains very unlikely as no one benefits that much from it Will wait and see but I'm sceptical
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Jun 10, 2017 18:10
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https://twitter.com/LordBuckethead/status/873492102830841856
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Jun 10, 2017 18:14
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Flashback
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forkboy84 posted:In fairness, if she'd done better Hammond was expected to be the first name gone in a reshuffle. I've no idea what the problem is there but there clearly is one, you don't sack the Chancellor on a whim The Mail's reasoning is that Hammond and the advisor that's gone had a huge falling out, and that the advisor had been in her ear that Hammond wanted her job.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:14
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Remember when during Cameron's resignation the overall feeling was that it would be looked back on as the largest political own goal in British history? Surely this has got to be even worse. The sheer arrogance and incompetence that lead to this Tory self-destruction is mind boggling.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:15
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there was some talk back then that Cameron might have survived if he had not resigned, and thus maintained the influence of his 2020 faction May may be having that in mind
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Jun 10, 2017 18:17
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Jun 10, 2017 18:18
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I would never normally endorse reading the right wing rags, but at the moment it's the best source for seeing who is briefing against who. From the mail's big "what went wrong with the campaign" piece. quote:Bearded Timothy — also nicknamed Rasputin — has particularly annoyed senior ministers, such as Hammond, who have complained about his behaviour. They have been appalled by his bullying and the way he often swears at ministers.
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Jun 10, 2017 18:20
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cabinet government has been dead ever since tony benn, it's a bit late to complain now
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kustomkarkommando posted:Flashback
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Jun 10, 2017 18:22
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lol at all the tory LGBTQ people who thought that party gives two flying fucks about them and wont send them back into the closet at the first opportunity to do so lolol
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Jun 10, 2017 18:23
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Hello, American here hoping that Europe doesn't start electing authoritarian right wingers like in the states. What's a summary of the recent election? How hosed is the government?
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Jun 10, 2017 18:26
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Including all the LBGTQ Tory MP's and any others that might be in Scottish Labour and the Lib Dems. How many votes does she need to pass the queen's speech again?
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Jun 10, 2017 18:27
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ronya posted:there was some talk back then that Cameron might have survived if he had not resigned, and thus maintained the influence of his 2020 faction Cameron had a working majority and didn't need the loving DUP lmao. He also had charisma, in his own right-wing evil way.
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Skinty McEdger posted:The Mail's reasoning is that Hammond and the advisor that's gone had a huge falling out, and that the advisor had been in her ear that Hammond wanted her job. he might get it now lol
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Jun 10, 2017 18:29
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Does anyone who's particularly au fait with the Labour peers know if they've decided to stop their spiteful anti-Corbyn protest? The Tories, DUP, and UKIP between them are a good sixty to seventy peers short of Labour+Lib Dems+the rest, which could gum the work of the Commons up for a good year or two. 
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https://twitter.com/wariotifo/status/873276711084990465 If you don't recognise them, that's former Corbyn advisor Matt Zarb-Cousin photobombing absolute failure of a Blairite John McTernan. unwantedplatypus posted:Hello, American here hoping that Europe doesn't start electing authoritarian right wingers like in the states. What's a summary of the recent election? How hosed is the government? Jeremy Corbyn is the absolute boy. What more do you need to know?
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learnincurve posted:Including all the LBGTQ Tory MP's and any others that might be in Scottish Labour and the Lib Dems. How many votes does she need to pass the queen's speech again? I may be misunderstanding you, but why would Scottish Labour vote for May's queen's speech? Also, aren't the Lib Dems pretty certain to not give her their support?
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Joda posted:I may be misunderstanding you, but why would Scottish Labour vote for May's queen's speech? Also, aren't the Lib Dems pretty certain to not give her their support? Dugdale apparently intimated that in the Borders and the Highlands that people should vote Tory to turf the SNP MPs out.
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unwantedplatypus posted:Hello, American here hoping that Europe doesn't start electing authoritarian right wingers like in the states. What's a summary of the recent election? How hosed is the government? Government is ultrafucked. The left is back. America is first against the wall.
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