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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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SteelMentor posted:Teresa May is the *squints at hand* Certain Female, innit bruv. #noveltypop4may "Cheeky Girls leading our campaign will really talk to the youth"
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kustomkarkommando posted:When Parliament opens the Queen delivers a speech written by the government outlining their plan for the coming year in terms of policy and bills, a basic programme of government. When the Elizabeth finally kicks it, will it become the King's Speech?
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Jun 10, 2017 21:04
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oath2order posted:New American here: Can someone explain this one to me? I'm not entirely sure what the Queen's Speech is, and the House of Lords just confuses me on general principle. The Queen's speech is the list of legislation the government will try to pass in the coming period. She opens Parliament by giving a speech listing it all. There's a bit of debate in the opening days of the parliament, then there's a vote to agree "yes, these are the things we're going to try to do". Failure to pass this vote is seen as a vote of no confidence in the government. Usually the government has enough MPs that this cruises through as a formality, but May needs all her MPs and the DUP just to pass it. The House of Lords is like the US senate, except it's by appointment, rather than elected. Also there's Bishops in there, for reasons. Their job is to scrutinise legislation in the public interest, modify it and send it back down to the Commons. The Lords is far less partisan than the Commons and has a sizeable chunk of 'crossbenchers' who declare no party allegience. Of those who do represent political parties, there's currently more Labour+Lib Dems than Conservatives. The recent Tory governments have had a hard time convincing the Lords to pass legislation that fucks huge parts of the population, like they'd like to do. The Conservatives, who have previously been the biggest defenders of an unelected second chamber are now its biggest critics. By convention, any bill that is in the government's manifesto will be passed by the Lords on the third attempt (after it has been approved by the Commons) and sent to the Queen to sign it into law.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:05
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:When the Elizabeth finally kicks it, will it become the King's Speech? Yes. Also the lyrics of the national anthem will change.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:06
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re: welfare cuts and NI, the DUP and SF both refused to implement welfare reform here for several years until the treasury started fining them and deducting money from the block grant forcing them to move on the issue. The Tories and NI parties negotiated a deal that would see special funding being unlocked to offset some of the cuts (and a couple of other outstanding peace related issues where hammered out) After a crisis where it seemed like SF had changed their mind eventually the NI assembly temporarily handed welfare powers back to Westminster to allow them to legislate for welfare reform, which is now only kicking in this year
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Jun 10, 2017 21:07
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Andrast posted:I can't wait to see the awkward courting of young voters in the next Tory election campaign Going to be "Hello fellow kids" as gently caress
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Andrast posted:I can't wait to see the awkward courting of young voters in the next Tory election campaign I think you're more likely to see an attempt at youth suppression than courting.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:08
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Thanks Ants posted:Tories have historically not struggled to attract youngsters. Historically they may not have struggled, but right now they definitely loving are.
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Julio Cruz posted:Historically they may not have struggled, but right now they definitely loving are. It was a reference to them being nonces.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:12
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For example, the government is currently trying to pass of legislation reforming universities, allowing fees to be raised higher than £9,000 a year, and lowering the bar to be granted university status. Current vice-chancellors didn't like it and said so, so the Lords rejected it and sent it back to the commons before the election. It looks unlikely it's getting passed now and will probably die.
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It's also worth pointing out that while it's not directly analogous to Hillary winning the vote but not the college seats, a larger percentage of the population voted for the parties which could form a progressive coalition than voted for all the right wing parties together. Just Labour, Lib Dems and SNP bring you to 50.4% of the vote without including Greens, Plaid, etc.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:13
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Like a cross between Uncle Fester and Andy Hamilton.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:13
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In a row?
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Jun 10, 2017 21:14
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It's pretty amusing to note quite a few foreign leaders are inviting May to come visit. That is some top quality subtle trolling.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:14
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Thanks Ants posted:In a row? Nice reference
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Jun 10, 2017 21:15
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Skinty McEdger posted:I think you're more likely to see an attempt at youth suppression than courting. *Looks over at the US* May: "In order for us to have a strong and stable Brexit we need to...make voting contingent on owning ID. Student ID does not count. Firearms license does!"
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Jun 10, 2017 21:15
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Aurubin posted:*Looks over at the US* May: "In order for us to have a strong and stable Brexit we need to...make voting contingent on owning ID. Student ID does not count. Firearms license does!" Voter ID was in their manifesto. You had better believe they're going to try and get it through.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:17
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Skinty McEdger posted:Voter ID was in their manifesto. You had better believe they're going to try and get it through. He needs body armour, not voter ID.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:18
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All seriousness, I'm over the moon my generation/younger are finally starting to be felt as a serious political force and I'm so grateful it was Corbyn that energised us. There's still a lot of work to do ofc, the youth politics seems to be split between: -Labour, the largest group now as we clearly saw. Good boys/girls who deserve their dinner eggs. -Young Tories, rich cunts who need their birthday Lambos keyed up immediately. May flee the Tories en-mass with their alliance with DUP/all the bullying that goes in within the YT. -UKIP, lost causes, May go back to apathetic, may go full fash/alt-right, slim chance they'll turn with enough kicks to the face. -Apathetic, the biggest worry. If Corbyn leaves for whatever reason and the next Labour leader can't motivate the youth like he can we may see apathy reclaim much of the youth. Major Labour gains may drag more kids out of this group next time round. Expect everyone to chase after the Youth vote next time. Expect many terrible, terrible memes.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:18
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Apparently the Tories spent loving 1.2 million quid running attack ads this election: http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/10/tories-spent-1200000-on-negative-anti-jeremy-corbyn-social-media-adverts-6699774/ And they still hosed it up Corbyn take me now I can only get so erect Its truly on like donkey kong
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Jun 10, 2017 21:20
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Aurubin posted:*Looks over at the US* May: "In order for us to have a strong and stable Brexit we need to...make voting contingent on owning ID. Student ID does not count. Firearms license does!" *looks over at the Labour party last year* "In order to make sure people voting in the UK really care about the UK and not just filthy entryists, they must have been registered to vote for at least... ten years. Twenty. Forty."
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Jun 10, 2017 21:22
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Thanks Ants posted:Tories have historically not struggled to attract youngsters. Sort of. Tory members have traditionally signed up thier kids to the party without them even knowing about it which inflates the statistics.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:22
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Aurubin posted:*Looks over at the US* May: "In order for us to have a strong and stable Brexit we need to...make voting contingent on owning ID. Student ID does not count. Firearms license does!" I will use my solitary UKMT thread vote wisely.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:26
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TheHoodedClaw posted:Yes. Also the lyrics of the national anthem will change. The national anthem has actually been changed to Luciano Michelini's 'Frolic' until the next general election is held.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:26
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Wouldn't the Tories courting the youth vote involve proposing policies that actually appeal to young people? Surely that'd be a good development?
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Classic Hodges https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/873615736178171905
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Jun 10, 2017 21:28
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Also look at what the Tories try to push through on internet regulation. That's going to be another avenue towards youth suppression and organisation.
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Zero Gravitas posted:Apparently the Tories spent loving 1.2 million quid running attack ads this election Sadly to the tories that's probably pocket change.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Also look at what the Tories try to push through on internet regulation. That's going to be another avenue towards youth suppression and organisation. That's not going to happen, and neither is voter ID, same with boundary changes. They were all going to be controversial. No way anything controversial gets passed now.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:32
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I can put a Google form up with questions for betting purposes if you want. Easier than someone having to go through and find all the entrants. We just going for when is May going to be kicked out as leader, and a charity?
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Jun 10, 2017 21:34
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Skinty McEdger posted:I think you're more likely to see an attempt at youth suppression than courting. This. The reported irregularities that prevented people from voting worry me. Learn from us in the US. The reactionaries are shameless.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:35
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CottonWolf posted:That's not going to happen, and neither is voter ID, same with boundary changes. They were all going to be controversial. No way anything controversial gets passed now. I bet boundary reform will be pushed through, it just won't be as blatant.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:36
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CoolCab posted:I bet boundary reform will be pushed through, it just won't be as blatant. That's the one of the three I thought would be least likely to go ahead. It doesn't just gently caress Labour, it fucks a good number of existing Tory MPs. They cannot afford to do anything that risks rebellions.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:39
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learnincurve posted:Sort of. Tory members have traditionally signed up thier kids to the party without them even knowing about it which inflates the statistics. Don't know if this is continuing the nonce metaphor or not, but  if it is.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:39
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CoolCab posted:I bet boundary reform will be pushed through, it just won't be as blatant. Not when it's cutting 50 MPs it's not: Like hell they'll give up there seats when there's no chance to win new ones back.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:39
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forkboy84 posted:"Cheeky Girls leading our campaign will really talk to the youth" You are Lembit Opik and I claim my five pounds.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:42
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Someone get the chef, I ordered my take "hot" but this is going too far.
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Jun 10, 2017 21:43
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nothing to seehere posted:Not when it's cutting 50 MPs it's not: Like hell they'll give up there seats when there's no chance to win new ones back. Thinking on it, it might be a good self-destruct move. If they know they can't keep the government running anymore, and the new boundaries are more favourable for the Tories demographically. You could pass the reforms and just let the government implode. It doesn't matter if there'll be rebellions if the MPs rebelling are all about to lose their seats. I'd be a risky move, and probably bad for morale, but it might be strategically savvy.
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 I get to post something clever once every five years.
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