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I'm half expecting that to be the direction the film goes in, though I doubt Disney would stake $150m on that kind of concept. Then I remember Zootopia, which was sold as one thing and was definitely a different thing, and I doubt my doubts.
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Ugh, the narrationless teaser trailer was much more charming.
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Which is the superior anime: Captain Underpants or Cory in the House?
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Drifter posted:Ugh. It's like someone saw that episode of the new MST3K and GOTG v2 years ago and said "Oh. Yeah. We can do that. Is it cool if we use all these old Big Hero 6 assets you don't want?"
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That movie makes no sense, but if you look at all the evidence, Bigfoot is his daddy and it has to protect him.
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The MSJ posted:That movie makes no sense, but if you look at all the evidence, Bigfoot is his daddy and it has to protect him. He's certainly in the misty mountainside, but he doesn't seem to be half man and half machine, and I haven't seen him on the cover of a magazine. Fake news. 
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so I just saw GOG vol 2, which would normally be unrelated, except it shared Lego Batman's message that you don't need a traditional biological family. I've remembered that the bad message of needing a traditional family has come up a bit in animated movies. There's been plenty of lovely ones like Mars Needs Moms, but also things like Dispicable Me 2 and Boxtrolls from writers you'd think would know better, and probably a bunch of other movies I don't remember right now that the thread's discussed. Like even Tangled the Stepmother is evil and the bio-mother is a good guy and this is a movie that otherwise is trying to talk about how much better it is than princess stories. It's also surprising that the two movies about nontraditional families come from the superhero genre. No real point here and I don't really know all the data to make any kind of conclusion, was just thinking about it after the movie.
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Hemingway To Go! posted:It's also surprising that the two movies about nontraditional families come from the superhero genre. Three. The first Guardians of the Galaxy was totally about assembling a de facto family, too, it was just slightly less explicit about it.
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Despicable Me 2 felt especially weird because A) the first movie so much about Gru becoming a dad and how he is able to cultivate this normal family being a single dad and B) they twisted themselves like a pretzel to come up with that nonsense where there was some mother's day school play or whatever that Gru couldn't participate in. You could easily have had "Gru gets a girlfriend" without attaching this weird thing to the movie where the girls (mostly the youngest one) REALLY want a mom
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Trolls is thoroughly a'ight, but I prefer the trashier Strange Magic.
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Hemingway To Go! posted:so I just saw GOG vol 2, which would normally be unrelated, except it shared Lego Batman's message that you don't need a traditional biological family. KFP2 did this too and I'm still salty about it, killed any interest I had in seeing the third one. I've heard it wasn't that great anyway.
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KFP3 has po's fathers agree to both be his dad and po is cool with this KFP2's dilemma is more 'where did I come from?' more than 'i need my biological father and mother to be a functional person'
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KFP2 never did the "I need a parent that isn't my crane-dad" - and they completely reaffirmed their relationship. It was "Why did I freeze up when facing the bad guy? Why am I here?"
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Macaluso posted:Despicable Me 2 felt especially weird because A) the first movie so much about Gru becoming a dad and how he is able to cultivate this normal family being a single dad and B) they twisted themselves like a pretzel to come up with that nonsense where there was some mother's day school play or whatever that Gru couldn't participate in. You could easily have had "Gru gets a girlfriend" without attaching this weird thing to the movie where the girls (mostly the youngest one) REALLY want a mom Yeah, I mean, even in the introduction to the same movie, it's shown that Gru can already do pretty well on his own, and was willing to go the extra mile for his girls to make the birthday party... memorable.
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Robindaybird posted:KFP2 never did the "I need a parent that isn't my crane-dad" - and they completely reaffirmed their relationship. It was "Why did I freeze up when facing the bad guy? Why am I here?" Yeah I actually really liked KFP2's handling of it. I mean I could accept that maybe bringing Po's real dad up as being alive at the end undermines it a bit, but I'd say the most important part of Po finding inner peace is at the end of his water drop flashback sequence. When it cuts through a bunch of shots of him and his adopted dad being a family. I haven't seen 3 yet, but I did like how at the end of 2 Po goes "I know who I am. I'm your son"  There was nothing about that movie trying to push "normal" families at all. In fact I think the Five as well as Shifu can be considered almost extended family for Po
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Weirdly, the only thing I remember from KFP3 was that the villain had a killer theme. Panda Village was a whole lot of nothin', though. And did Po's bio-dad have a personality more than "Dad?" Ping registered, but not him.
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Jun 11, 2017 08:38
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KFP3's villain was very memorable
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K. Waste posted:Trolls is thoroughly a'ight, but I prefer the trashier Strange Magic. We only got through the first half hour last night but my gf and I dig Trolls. The scrapbook aesthetic kinda owns?? I'd love to see a feature in the same vein as Nintendo's Yarn and Paper games
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quote:"What was cool was so many officers have seen the movie so many times and they never saw the parallels with real life, policing, the internal issues we deal with and the external," Ofc. Colleen Rooney said. Is that like, wilful ignorance, or something? 
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This makes me sad. The_Doctor posted:Is that like, wilful ignorance, or something? It's probably just people aren't really trained to engage with movies like that. Lotta people treat movies as throwaway things, entertainment, they don't really stop to think about what they're watching they just watch it and let it end and say "that was good" and move on. Like, I've literally talked with people before who have sat through a two hour blockbuster, in theatres, and could only say "yeah it was good, I liked the part with the explosion where Captain America saves his bro" and then when I try to talk about how the movie portrays large scale government surveillance as the work of evil they have no idea what I just said, because they didn't see it, in the movie they just watched, which explicitly calls attention to it and talks about it at length. People can watch movies, animated movies in particular, and walk away as if they'd just stared at a wall for two hours.
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Hedrigall posted:KFP3's villain was very memorable Kung Fu Panda has the absolute best villains and handles them really well. I loved everything about Shen and as stated, Kai's theme loving ruled and I also loved everything about him, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jWB_YidG-c Though I do think 3 was the weakest so far, but I'm still excited to see more. 3 could have been worse with the dad stuff, I really don't have any time for adopted families vs biological families crap, but in the end I think they handled it okay. But yeah Panda Town was kind of lackluster  I wanted more cute panda action.
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The_Doctor posted:Is that like, wilful ignorance, or something? As has alreay been pointed out, Zootopia doesn't actually reflect social realities of crime and prejudice. It's only liberals who've convinced themselves of that.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:As has alreay been pointed out, Zootopia doesn't actually reflect social realities of crime and prejudice. It's only liberals who've convinced themselves of that. I mean, no? Zootopia parallels social realities of prejudice, but in the construct of its own fictional setting. Nobody is a direct correlation to any marginalized groups in real life, but the ideas of prejudice remain the same. Honestly it's a great idea to use it for police bias training because of exactly that. One of the quotes in the article puts it perfectly, quote:"Because there was not one human character, you could learn from it without being judged or feeling like they were putting it on you," Sgt. Deanna Fink said.
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Zootopia does reflect real life problems, but you could also argue it does it kind of poorly and acts as a largely surface level commentary. It could be more pointed to teach a lesson or something. But its still enjoyable enough.
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nerdman42 posted:Zootopia does reflect real life problems, but you could also argue it does it kind of poorly and acts as a largely surface level commentary. It could be more pointed to teach a lesson or something. It sounds like those police people are using it to start a dialog in order to facilitate a teachable moment, not to be the sole tool by which the workforce is taught with.
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quote:"Because there was not one human character, you could learn from it without being judged or feeling like they were putting it on you," Sgt. Deanna Fink said. I will judge you all I want, Sgt. Fink, because you're a grown-rear end adult with a gun and if you needed a children's movie to teach you not to kill black people for no reason, you shouldn't have your job.
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That's the kind of dodgy logic that leads to people saying they don't need sensitivity training because surely they aren't racist.
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I don't want to cross-pollinate too much but this was shown at E3 and the aesthetic is absolutely amazing on first glance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5iGwE0XJ1s
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Martytoof posted:I don't want to cross-pollinate too much but this was shown at E3 and the aesthetic is absolutely amazing on first glance. It looks great (and has since the first trailer at E3 2014 :P) but it's not enough to get me to buy an Xbox One
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It's also going to be on Steam, so you won't have to! There was literally one game at that conference that was Xbone exclusive and not also coming to PC somehow and that was a new version of an existing PC game.
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Yeah, for the past year or so Microsoft has basically given up on segregating PC and Xbox titles and has settled for "If it comes out on a platform we sell (i.e. Windows or Xbox) it's an exclusive."
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Speaking of video games tangentially related to animated film, Kingdom Hearts 3 got a new trailer, and will announce another world at D23 mid-next month. I'll just say that the Japanese voice for Hades is uncannily similar to James Woods's voice. I wonder if that was the voice Disney used for the dub of Hercules itself, or what?
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Martytoof posted:I don't want to cross-pollinate too much but this was shown at E3 and the aesthetic is absolutely amazing on first glance.  I urgently need a
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Shadow Hog posted:Speaking of video games tangentially related to animated film, Kingdom Hearts 3 got a new trailer, and will announce another world at D23 mid-next month. I'd be more excited if 1) it hasn't been literal years since it's been announced, 2( it's still literal years before it's released, and /3 the trailer ends with the release date for another loving trailer
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Don't bother responding to Bravestofthelamps, they're a fly-by troll that loves to poo poo up threads.
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Martytoof posted:I don't want to cross-pollinate too much but this was shown at E3 and the aesthetic is absolutely amazing on first glance. I mean since we're doing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kPSl2vyu2Y Especially the shot of the spider holy moly 
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