UKMT General Elextravaganza 2017: Lord Buckethead would have won

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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed.
Labour	907	49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative)	48	2.64%
Liberal Democrats	31	1.71%
UKIP	13	0.72%
Plaid Cymru	25	1.38%
Green	22	1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party	12	0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party	1	0.06%
Scottish National Party	59	3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist	4	0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian	3	0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist	36	1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots	35	1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash	8	0.44%
Monster Raving Loony	49	2.70%
Space Navies Party	39	2.15%
Independent / Single Issue	2	0.11%
Can't Vote	188	10.35%
Won't Vote	8	0.44%
Spoiled Ballot	15	0.83%
Pissflaps	312	17.17%
Total:	1817 votes

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Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-vows-oust-theresa-10601306

and

https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/873638704501448704

Corbyn vs Johnson GE??

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:49

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# ? May 14, 2024 03:52

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

TinTower posted:

You are Lembit Opik and I claim my five pounds.

Oh my god I've never been more insulted in my life

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:49

Gum: Mar 9, 2008; _{oho, a rapist

time to try this puppy out}

CottonWolf posted:

Thinking on it, it might be a good self-destruct move. If they know they can't keep the government running anymore, and the new boundaries are more favourable for the Tories demographically. You could pass the reforms and just let the government implode. It doesn't matter if there'll be rebellions if the MPs rebelling are all about to lose their seats. I'd be a risky move, and probably bad for morale, but it might be strategically savvy.

The rebellions would stop the boundary changes going through

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:50

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Kurtofan posted:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-vows-oust-theresa-10601306

and

https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/873638704501448704

Corbyn vs Johnson GE??

Finally we get to reprise "This is bad for Corbyn".

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:51

TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/610711583069720576

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:51

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

TinTower posted:

You are Lembit Opik and I claim my five pounds.

If you are Lembit Opik, here's five pounds, cheer up you poor bastard.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:52

Kurtofan: Feb 16, 2011; hon hon hon

jBrereton posted:

Finally we get to reprise "This is bad for Corbyn".

people don't actuallly boris right

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:53

Gum: Mar 9, 2008; _{oho, a rapist

time to try this puppy out}

TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/610711583069720576

That's the good stuff

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:53

CottonWolf: Jul 20, 2012; Good ideas generator

Gum posted:

The rebellions would stop the boundary changes going through

Yep. Of course they would. That was my original point. I'd somehow forgotten that and tied myself in knots.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:53

Gum: Mar 9, 2008; _{oho, a rapist

time to try this puppy out}

Kurtofan posted:

people don't actuallly boris right

It's never advisable to boris

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:54

RabidWeasel: Aug 4, 2007; Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

CottonWolf posted:

That's not going to happen, and neither is voter ID, same with boundary changes. They were all going to be controversial. No way anything controversial gets passed now.

God, I hope you're right. Just stopping the most awful new policies would be a huge victory in itself. I don't have much faith in Tory MPs to not be gigantic fucks.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:54

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Kurtofan posted:

people don't actuallly boris right

He was elected mayor of London and keeps being an MP!

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:55

coffeetable: Feb 5, 2006; TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

Kurtofan posted:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-vows-oust-theresa-10601306

and

https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/873638704501448704

Corbyn vs Johnson GE??

itshappeningbutwithcorbyn.gif

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:55

SteelMentor: Oct 15, 2012; TOXIC

Kurtofan posted:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-vows-oust-theresa-10601306

and

https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/873638704501448704

Corbyn vs Johnson GE??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JUCfX1P1ik

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:56

KOGAHAZAN!!: Apr 29, 2013; a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

He has, or had, something of a cult of personality. Came across as a loveable buffoon. I rather suspect an election campaign would show him up the way it showed up May.

Also, Corbyn might actually come out on top in the "looks Prime Ministerial" stakes next to Bojo.

Kurtofan posted:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-vows-oust-theresa-10601306

and

https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/873638704501448704

Corbyn vs Johnson GE??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU

At least give me a week's rest here Jezza, cripes. I feel like I need to sleep for a month.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:57

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

jBrereton posted:

He was elected mayor of London and keeps being an MP!

That was before Brexit, and the 350 million for the NHS bus he drove around in.
Which he admitted was a lie the next day, and stood back to prevent getting full flack for the Brexit result.

He won't last a week as PM.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:58

kustomkarkommando: Oct 22, 2012

Anyone looking for a better grasp of how the DUP leans policy wise at Westminster, heres some excellent crunching from the numbers man over at Northern Ireland blog Slugger O'Toole:

Slugger O'Toole posted:

More recently, the DUP have a consistent record of siding with Labour and not the Conservatives on tax-and-spend issues. I looked at data from The Public Whip to look at how the DUP and the Conservatives voted in Parliament since the 2015 General Election. There were 467 divisions in the House of Commons in the last Parliament. Of these, the DUP with the government voted on 206 occasions, and against the Tories 77 times (only considering votes where at least half of both the Conservatives and the DUP voted), meaning that the DUP voted with the Conservatives 73% of the time. There were 184 votes in which either or both of half the respective parliamentary parties did not vote.

The DUP certainly have a track record of voting with the Tories more often than the similarly-sized post-2015 Liberal Democrat contingent, who only voted with the government on 7% of the occasions where at least of half both parliamentary parties voted. DUP MPs will presumably have to show up on more occasions in the next parliament; DUP MPs only voted 53% of the time since the 2015 election, compared to the Conservatives who voted on 83% of occasions.

However, on opposition days, where subjects chosen by the opposition are debated, the DUP voted against the government on 14 of the 20 occasions (70%) where the majority of both blocs of MPs voted. Examples of votes where the DUP and the Tories opposed each other were on calls for state support for the steel industry, to stop the scrapping of maintenance grants for low income students, and a debate on the tax deal reached between Google and HMRC.

When the opposition get to decide the topic between debated, the DUP�s voting record is generally left-leaning and aligned with the Labour party. The rate at which the DUP have backed the Conservatives is somewhat bolstered by the sheer number of Brexit-related votes in the last parliament, with 45 out of the 467 divisions in the last parliament related to the topic.

Aside from the parliamentary party, DUP voters are also left-leaning on bread-and-butter taxation and spending issues. I looked at data from the Northern Ireland Life and Times Survey (NILT), a survey that has been running from 1998 and monitors the opinions of Northern Ireland residents on politics and other matters.

In the NILT survey from 2014, 34% of people who identified as DUP voters said that �Improving the health service� was the most important issue facing Northern Ireland, only two points fewer than the 36% of voters of the left-leaning SDLP.

In the most recent NILT survey, respondents were asked if it was fair that people should have to sell their home to pay for their care. Only 19% of DUP voters agreed that this fair, one point fewer than the Liberal Democrat aligned Alliance Party. When asked if it was fair that care should be universally free and funded by an increase in taxation, the majority (61%) of DUP voters agreed that it was fair. This was only seven percentage points fewer than the percentage of Sinn F�in voters (68%) who thought the same.

DUP voters, whilst very much in favour of Brexit and (obviously) Northern Ireland�s place in the UK, are in favour of better public services and not necessarily opposed to tax rises to pay for them, and the voting behaviour of the DUP in parliament broadly reflects this.

Ultimately, the DUP are economic populists and parochial in outlook, and the wishlist they present to the Conservatives is likely to be dominated for requests for more UK government funds for Northern Ireland, although a UK-wide repeal of the bedroom tax was one of the demands they presented in 2015. Northern Ireland is already the area of the UK that receives the most public expenditure on a per capita basis.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:59

waffle: May 12, 2001; HEH

Kurtofan posted:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-vows-oust-theresa-10601306

and

https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/873638704501448704

Corbyn vs Johnson GE??

lmfao please do go with boris, if the tories think he's at all appealing to the british public then they deserve electoral oblivion.

He played "lovable idiot scamp" for a while but I really don't think he comes off that way anymore, and now he acts way too Trump-like for the mental connection to not be made by most of the public

# ? Jun 10, 2017 21:59

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/873325711590916096

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:01

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

Kurtofan posted:

people don't actuallly boris right

People love to Boris. He's an evil clown

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:01

BobbyThompson: Mar 23, 2001

learnincurve posted:

I get to post something clever once every five years.

Me too.

The Day Today - Pilot Episode 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8m3dFcNuAQ

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:01

Pochoclo: Feb 4, 2008; No...; Clapping Larry

EXCLUSIVE SCENES of the Conservative/DUP government

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pEF5cAkFXg

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:01

deletebeepbeepbeep: Nov 12, 2008

Boris was embarrassing in a number of interviews leading up to the GE.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:02

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

waffle posted:

lmfao please do go with boris, if the tories think he's at all appealing to the british public then they deserve electoral oblivion.

He played "lovable idiot scamp" for a while but I really don't think he comes off that way anymore, and now he acts way too Trump-like for the mental connection to not be made by most of the public

Hell, the rear end in a top hat LOOKS like Trump.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:02

SteelMentor: Oct 15, 2012; TOXIC

I think the cult of BOZZA WORRA LEGERND has died a just death. At best people see him as an idiot. At worst people see him as the oval office he is under the buffoonish performance. He doesn't even seem to be liked in his own party.

He may be more conniving than May, but still easy prey for The Absolute Lad if he does snatch the PM spot from May.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:03

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

waffle posted:

lmfao please do go with boris, if the tories think he's at all appealing to the british public then they deserve electoral oblivion.

He played "lovable idiot scamp" for a while but I really don't think he comes off that way anymore, and now he acts way too Trump-like for the mental connection to not be made by most of the public

The way most people reacted when they heard he'd be foreign secretary. People might enjoy him as a lovable buffoon but I think they'd be hard pressed to elect him PM.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:03

TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/873646362608447495

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/873645501438144512

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:04

coffeetable: Feb 5, 2006; TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/873646362608447495

needs party breakdown

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:06

TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/873646941644705792

coffeetable posted:

needs party breakdown

The Tory party is already breaking down, mate.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:06

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

you're against an opponent you've completely exhausted the British public's tolerance for personal attacks trying to oust, cocked up, and will now replace the aloof PM with a blundering attack dog.

what can they even be thinking at this point?

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:07

Skinty McEdger: Mar 9, 2008; I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Whoever makes the first move won't end up with the leadership. Surely Borris knows this now, considering how many times its blown up in his face.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:07

Apraxin: Feb 22, 2006; General-Admiral

c0burn posted:

https://twitter.com/brokenbottleboy/status/873548052308668418

37!?!?

Stephen Miller, one of Trump's advisers who's close to Steve Bannon and responsible for a lot of the anti-Islam stuff, is 31 and looks like this:

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:08

SteelMentor: Oct 15, 2012; TOXIC

Spangly A posted:

you're against an opponent you've completely exhausted the British public's tolerance for personal attacks trying to oust, cocked up, and will now replace the aloof PM with a blundering attack dog.

what can they even be thinking at this point?

Tories are delusional? Say it ain't so.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:08

CottonWolf: Jul 20, 2012; Good ideas generator

TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/873646362608447495

At least that poll's probably reliable.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:09

waffle: May 12, 2001; HEH

SteelMentor posted:

Tories are delusional? Say it ain't so.

Yesterday I saw some random tory on twitter musing about possible people to replace May, and he came up with Jacob Rees-Mogg

lol

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:09

TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:10

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I've seen some stuff that Corbyn's supposed to be a bit anti-NATO? Has he said he isn't fond of the alliance or something?

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:11

kustomkarkommando: Oct 22, 2012

I would have thought David Davis is more likely as a transitional leader

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:11

Drone_Fragger: May 9, 2007

TheRat posted:

Jeremy Corbyn: The absolute boy

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:13

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communism bitch: Apr 24, 2009

I do hope May hangs on because she's just the sort of electoral kryptonite that everybody was accusing Corbyn of being. Also the protracted infighting and backstabbing in the tory party will be glorious.

# ? Jun 10, 2017 22:14

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