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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
Do we need a 2/3 majority in parliament to call another election because of fixed term act?

Edit: 388, the number of seats Labour will win in the next election.

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StoicFnord
Jul 27, 2012

"If you want to make enemies....try to change something."


College Slice

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

What have you got against words that sound the same, but are spelled differently?

I'm loving dyslexic.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

forkboy84 posted:

What the Christ?

https://twitter.com/mattzarb/status/873675611549683712

thehappyprince
Apr 4, 2006

Alastair Cock

hope rules, the tories drool. just my 2 cents

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Do we need a 2/3 majority in parliament to call another election because of fixed term act?

Edit: 388, the number of seats Labour will win in the next election.

Just need 1/2 to vote down the queen's speech

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Do we need a 2/3 majority in parliament to call another election because of fixed term act?

No, because the FTPA is secondary to a motion of no confidence and that only requires a simple majority.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref


This looks really good but I can't shake the feeling that the longer this government goes on the enthusiasm (with the youth if nothing else) is going to drop off sharpish. We need another election within a year.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Jedit posted:

The Lords, being appointed rather than elected, are not beholden to special interest groups funding their election campaigns. And as they sit for life (or until they retire from all work) they're not angling for a nice job or six once they stand down.

Re: Lord Buckethead - in case anyone doesn't know, he took the character and party name from a 1980s Star Wars parody called Gremloids. I saw it years ago, it is very cheap and very silly so I recommend it.

Give lord buckethead peerage imo

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Bishop Rodan posted:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/873674408224862210

Wow, the shambolic state of the Tories right now is enough to cause that kind of u-turn?

The news since the exit poll has been literally nothing but "Tory shambles, Corbyn absolute lad" so quite possibly. Might die down after the dust settles, but depends on what the dust settles into I guess and it's not looking good right now at least

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Josef bugman posted:

I just wanted to link this article:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/06/labour-reckoning

Because I really hope that the various people inside of it who predicted these things are suddenly turning to each other and going "huh".

I don't know a lot about Cowley but the New Statesman liveblog for the election was great to read because Stephen Bush, the journalist running it, got completely giddy and between seat updates just posted stuff like 'god, this is so great.'

Also, if you want to feel even more positivity about the election, this article is for you: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/06/why-labour-majority-next-election-has-become-far-easier

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
To be fair, the better Labour are polling the less incentive the Tories/DUP have of risking an election. Regardless of how shambolic they become, we'll still need a vote of no confidence most likely to get them out.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Reminder that Jeremy Bernard Corbyn has gone from 25/49 to 45/39 in 6 weeks

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

TheRat posted:

Reminder that Jeremy Bernard Corbyn has gone from 25/49 to 45/39 in 6 weeks

I like where that trend is heading

BobbyThompson
Mar 23, 2001
This is possibly the most pertinent comment by PJW all year.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155362570431171

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I will happily make sure Our Jez gets his dinner egg.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/BrianElects/status/873676301713977344

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
If Labour do manage to get 800k members then their subs alone would be enough to fight the 2005 election (the most expensive they've ever had) every six months. loving bring on the snap elections then.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

You know its kind of funny how much influence both Canary and OAV will have over the Labour base. But then when the publications that pretend to be Labour act like this, can you blame them?

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Solemn Sloth posted:

I like where that trend is heading



In just 16 weeks he'll have over 100% of the vote!

Joda
Apr 24, 2010

When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?

Fun Shoe

StoicFnord posted:

Couple that with the same manifesto, and some media training on the usual terrorist/trident questions. Add a sprinkling of the soundbites on "the voters are wrong" "coalition of chaos" and "strong and stable"

I have yet to hear Corbyn say anything unreasonable on the topic of terrorism. Sure, it's probably not tactically smart to mention that terrorism is directly tied to Western warfare in the middle east, but I completely agree with it, and he's just being honest about his positions.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

TheRat posted:

Just need 1/2 to vote down the queen's speech

Or a vote of confidence or money bill. There are moves that can be pulled to prevent a confidence vote happen apart from the Queen's Speech but there has to be at least one Budget a year.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Or a vote of confidence or money bill. There are moves that can be pulled to prevent a confidence vote happen apart from the Queen's Speech but there has to be at least one Budget a year.

They probably will regret moving it to the autumn, now. :laugh:

Joda
Apr 24, 2010

When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?

Fun Shoe

Bishop Rodan posted:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/873674408224862210

Wow, the shambolic state of the Tories right now is enough to cause that kind of u-turn?

I think there's a group of people who either 1) want to vote for the winning side, because for some reason that's a thing that people do, and 2) were afraid to get behind Corbyn's labour because everyone was trying to paint him as a clown.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
Does the Star have a particular grudge against Boris? They seem to be moving to preempt a leadership bid pretty strongly, to say the least:
https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/873648092322684929

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT


looool

Where's that seat projection for different levels of swing again?

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

baka kaba posted:

looool

Where's that seat projection for different levels of swing again?

http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/swingometer/2017?CON=38.94&LAB=44.84&LD=7.25

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Crowsbeak posted:

You know its kind of funny how much influence both Canary and OAV will have over the Labour base. But then when the publications that pretend to be Labour act like this, can you blame them?

Anyone who was following the indyref, where Wings Over Scotland went from angry weirdo with a blog to The Voice Of Yes for a significant chunk of supporters (while remaining an angry weirdo) won't be too surprised. And should maybe see it as a warning.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
Thing is, the Maydup government is going to be very weak and unpopular, and May has no good ideas anyway.

The longer it continues, the better the election will go.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

What the gently caress is even going on?

https://twitter.com/skydavidblevins/status/873676439010365445

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT


Mm yeah that's the stuff

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


That's a 9% swing I think? Which, seat wise, would probably give Corbyn a majority.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

When's the Queen's Speech? Willing to bet the DUP are trying to get some whipped legislation guarantees as their cost for the deal (Lib Dems take note...), and the time pressure really puts the ball entirely in their court.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

goddamnedtwisto posted:

When's the Queen's Speech? Willing to bet the DUP are trying to get some whipped legislation guarantees as their cost for the deal (Lib Dems take note...), and the time pressure really puts the ball entirely in their court.

19th

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Apraxin posted:

Does the Star have a particular grudge against Boris? They seem to be moving to preempt a leadership bid pretty strongly, to say the least:

Boris and Richard Desmond were as recently as 2016 very close. Boris' last act as mayor was to give the green light to a billion pound docklands redevelopment deal for Desmond, and the two worked together for years on various charitable boards.

Apparently things have changed. Desmond would definitely be the one who would know where the bodies are buried when it came to Boris.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Angepain posted:

Anyone who was following the indyref, where Wings Over Scotland went from angry weirdo with a blog to The Voice Of Yes for a significant chunk of supporters (while remaining an angry weirdo) won't be too surprised. And should maybe see it as a warning.

I hope the editors at Gaurdian make a tactical decision here, because in America at least we got the Nation and Jacobin. You guys have nthing. Frankly TYT which is pretty poo poo is far prefeerable to OAV and the Canary

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Even assuming they get confidence and supply, it will only ever take seven Tories to decide 'gently caress it, burn it all down' and another election results.

EDIT: Also, when was the last time Labour polled 45%?

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

nothing to seehere posted:

That's a 9% swing I think? Which, seat wise, would probably give Corbyn a majority.

You must be confused. The only question was how big the Tory majority would be.

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



I wonder how good party discipline will be for the Tories with a leader they don't want, propped up by a party that is poisonous, caught between Brexit and a potential Corbyn winning GE? :v:

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

I think you'll find that Corbyn lost and there's no way he could ever win an election.

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AegisP
Oct 5, 2008

Followup:

https://twitter.com/skydavidblevins/status/873682026116907013

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