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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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https://twitter.com/InsidersABC/status/873713387519082497 This young lady for PM
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EvilHawk posted:This looks really good but I can't shake the feeling that the longer this government goes on the enthusiasm (with the youth if nothing else) is going to drop off sharpish. We need another election within a year. lmfao it's a bit late for the "youth are feckless and impatient!" take isn't it
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Jun 11, 2017 02:56
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Some rather stunning highlights from the poll today: * Labour-led coalition with Lib Dems + SNP + Greens is more popular than Tory + DUP * In the event of another General Election, 45% think Labour would win, 33% think Conservative would win, and 3% think another party would win. * 47% disapprove with May's decision to govern with the DUP, while 33% approve. The entire thing is REALLY bad for the Tories
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Jun 11, 2017 02:58
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Skinty McEdger posted:They don't do any negotiations or political activities on the Sabbath. Can you have a parliament session with a confidence vote on a sunday?
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Jun 11, 2017 02:58
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EvilHawk posted:This looks really good but I can't shake the feeling that the longer this government goes on the enthusiasm (with the youth if nothing else) is going to drop off sharpish. We need another election within a year. The youth are not riddled with dementia and drink, only with drink. They know that they voted to gently caress over the Tories and give themselves a chance at a future, and they can look around and see the Tories are well hosed. And as time goes on, the Tories are *increasingly* hosed. Nobody is going to lose heart over that.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:00
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tekz posted:Can you have a parliament session with a confidence vote on a sunday? in a very Question Time voice: what if you have to fire the nukes on a Sunday
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Jun 11, 2017 03:05
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The youth vote wasn't dampened by two years of Corbyn getting a monstering, I don't think it's going to get dampened by two years of May doing the world's slowest motion faceplant while Corbyn lols from the sidelines.
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den absoluta pojken
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goddamnedtwisto posted:If Labour do manage to get 800k members then their subs alone would be enough to fight the 2005 election (the most expensive they've ever had) every six months. loving bring on the snap elections then. From during the GE: quote:On Thursday, we turned the tables on the Tories. Labour's been loving raking in the cash.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:09
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OwlFancier posted:From during the GE: And in case you missed it earlier, Labour are now at 800,000 members and people are speculating about the 1mil mark. The cashflow isnt stopping.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:14
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OwlFancier posted:From during the GE: as an american that receives email from the dnc and moveon, it is utterly loving baffling to see an effective, positively written fundraising mail
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Jun 11, 2017 03:18
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Venuz Patrol posted:as an american that receives email from the dnc and moveon, it is utterly loving baffling to see an effective, positively written fundraising mail Bernie Was Robbed
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Jun 11, 2017 03:20
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OwlFancier posted:From during the GE: Weren't there reports about how lots of constituencies has basically no funding, because it was all going to shoring up safe seats to protect Labour from collapsing? What I'm saying is they weren't even operating at full power 
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Jun 11, 2017 03:20
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This upswing in labour support i think is due to that stupid contradictory notion of backing the winning horse. "OH I wont vote for corbyn, he wont win."
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Jun 11, 2017 03:23
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It will definitely make more people take him seriously/give a gently caress about voting I mean the Tories held on to a few seats by a literal handful of votes. I bet there are people in a few places with real personal guilt about what they did on election day. Not to mention overturning safe Tory seats - people are probably energised and full of hope, even John Cleese
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Jun 11, 2017 03:28
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Rigged Death Trap posted:This upswing in labour support i think is due to that stupid contradictory notion of backing the winning horse. Of all the psychological phenomena that go on during elections, this one will always be the most baffling to me... Like, you have to literally not understand the point of democracy to think like that.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:29
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Joda posted:Of all the psychological phenomena that go on during elections, this one will always be the most baffling to me... Like, you have to literally not understand the point of democracy to think like that. Not really, if people think there's no point they won't bother. It doesn't even mean they don't vote - they might just put their efforts elsewhere, like giving support to a smaller party where each extra vote or member is more meaningful
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Jun 11, 2017 03:35
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knox_harrington posted:(why the gently caress is it so difficult to link to photos on Imgur now?) Right click the image on the page and use (Copy Image Location) for SA to display it properly.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:35
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Rigged Death Trap posted:This upswing in labour support i think is due to that stupid contradictory notion of backing the winning horse. I mean, monetarily that's not exactly stupid, you don't want to spend money on something you think will do no good.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:41
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I didn't like Corbyn because I thought he was going to get creamed, but I was wrong!
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Jun 11, 2017 03:41
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tekz posted:Can you have a parliament session with a confidence vote on a sunday? I checked the parliament faqs on this one. Though technically they only sit through Monday to Friday, the convention has been broken four times for Sat sittings, three times for emergencies and one time for normal business. The only thing that stops a Sunday session is convention, and that could be broken if the situation required it. However the 2011 Parliament act changed the rules (that were just conventions) for a vote of no confidence. Now losing one doesn't instantly trigger an election - the government has fourteen days from that point to win a confidence vote (and can have as many attempts as they want at it in that time). So even if they managed to get a no confidence vote on a Sunday they would be able to have another vote the next day with the DUP members present. Repealing the Parliament act was in the Tory manifesto. I think they might just be shelfing those plans for the foreseeable.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:45
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So how exactly do we go from Theresa May losing the election a bit, but still being PM, to having JC (who lost it even more) being PM in a relatively quick manner? I mean, wouldn't any change require tory MPs cooperating with non-tory MPs?
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Jun 11, 2017 03:53
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While it would be great if younger voters continue to be as engaged and effective as they were in the election, its not unreasonable to be worried that it might have been the high water mark. Hubris and taking your voters for granted is really not a great look right now.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:56
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Gunder posted:So how exactly do we go from Theresa May losing the election a bit, but still being PM, to having JC (who lost it even more) being PM in a relatively quick manner? I mean, wouldn't any change require tory MPs cooperating with non-tory MPs? If the Conservatives can't put together a government, then Labour almost certainly can't either, so there would be a new election.
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Jun 11, 2017 03:56
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hit button posted:While it would be great if younger voters continue to be as engaged and effective as they were in the election, its not unreasonable to be worried that it might have been the high water mark. Hubris and taking your voters for granted is really not a great look right now. It's what happened to Scottish Labour and now to the SNP & Tories.
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Jun 11, 2017 04:08
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hit button posted:While it would be great if younger voters continue to be as engaged and effective as they were in the election, its not unreasonable to be worried that it might have been the high water mark. Hubris and taking your voters for granted is really not a great look right now. This has been on my mind too. I half expect young voters to only turn up once, and, seeing as it didn't work flawlessly the first time, get bored and go home.
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Jun 11, 2017 04:12
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Rigged Death Trap posted:This upswing in labour support i think is due to that stupid contradictory notion of backing the winning horse. We have that even in Australia where we have preferential voting. It's mind-boggling.
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Jun 11, 2017 04:22
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the youth turned out because they had something to vote for. they'll do it again, especially with all the cases where 20 odd votes was the decider. labour should definitely have student loan debt relief in the next manifesto too imo
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Jun 11, 2017 04:29
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thehappyprince posted:the youth turned out because they had something to vote for. they'll do it again, especially with all the cases where 20 odd votes was the decider. Yup. I didn't believe it would happen, I thought the lefty stuff was just pie in the sky self-indulgence, but I was wrong. It was when the manifestos came out that things started to turn around, his ideas are much more popular than I figured they would be. I don't agree with him on everything but he did so well that he deserves to have the warts overlooked, he's the man. And Britain isn't the worst anglo country anymore, australia is again.
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Jun 11, 2017 04:33
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The US isn't included in that ranking, right?
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Jun 11, 2017 04:40
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Crazycryodude posted:The US isn't included in that ranking, right? The American people were wise, millions more of us voted for Hillary than for Orange Judas.
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Jun 11, 2017 04:42
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thehappyprince posted:the youth turned out because they had something to vote for. they'll do it again, especially with all the cases where 20 odd votes was the decider. offer ridiculous rates of debt forgiveness (say, 30+ pounds an hour) for volunteering in your community or otherwise working towards to the greater social good. you work as a nurse at a decent wage, and in addition three (or more) times that gets forgiven off your debt for every pound you earn offer a similar deal to the free tuition fees students to cover their other costs like housing or books, food, etc call it national service to get the old bastards on your side job done
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Jun 11, 2017 04:48
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But then everyone will take out infinite student loans to profit from this loophole :torysay:
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Jun 11, 2017 04:57
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hakimashou posted:The American people were wise, millions more of us voted for Hillary than for Orange Judas. Yet the membership of the supposed leftist party rejected Bernie.
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Jun 11, 2017 04:59
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hakimashou posted:The American people were wise, millions more of us voted for Hillary than for Orange Judas. And now the peoples of both nations get to fear the rise of the regressive orangeman. 
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Jun 11, 2017 05:06
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BobTheJanitor posted:And now the peoples of both nations get to fear the rise of the regressive orangeman. It's a sign from Crazy Irish Protestant God.
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Jun 11, 2017 05:10
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Gunder posted:This has been on my mind too. I half expect young voters to only turn up once, and, seeing as it didn't work flawlessly the first time, get bored and go home. At the moment we haven't seen any indicators that's the case, in no small part because even though it didn't work flawlessly there's still a sense that they won. Perception is so often reality and you're seeing in the case of student towns and other places that flipped where there were high youth concentrations there's a real sense of achievement. It helps no end that the Tories are in utter disarray at the moment. Conceivably you could have a situation where the Tories get their poo poo together and pass something so utterly soul destroying that it makes them think that their efforts didn't matter, but that's going to be a big challenge for the Tories to do in their current situation. Plus if anything you look at how Brexit seemed to have an impact on how engaged they were there is an equal chance you can see something like that galvanise the demographic. That's not to say that anyone can take them for granted, you still need to put together a manifesto that gives them something to vote for, give them something aspirational and hopeful and most importantly make them feel like their opinion matters and you're listening. What Corbyn succeeded in doing was showing that the group everyone writes off are a real potential political power, if you campaign for their vote. The challenge is to now keep doing so. And if you keep doing so for long enough while other parties continue to ignore them then you have the chance of creating a new generation of partisan voters. The Lib Dems had a chance of doing this, started to work down this path but then betrayed them. I don't think you can win an election purely with the youth vote alone. I do think you can absolutely lose one by ignoring them.
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