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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:How much of the objection to Corbyn is idealogical and how much of it is was about "electability" (awful phrase)? The ideological core of Blairism is: A: unifying around a charismatic front man B: who genuinely believes in C: a set of policies capable of winning the next election. The key ingredient, sometimes missing, is B. Remember that old line about 'The secret of success is sincerity; if you could fake that, you would'. To oppose Corbyn from a Blairite position is the mark of the terminally stupid, those who did what they were told without understanding why. All the core Blairite thought-leaders (Campbell, Mandellson, etc.) are now backing him. So long as he can stick to the intersection of B and C, he will be unstoppable. His only real weak point is those issues outside that intersection, and all he needs to do there is keep quiet.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Not as easy as it should be. It might have them if people hadn't chipped them all off fairly recently.
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Borrovan posted:Fine gambit: rally everyone behind a literal and figurative walking corpse, leak it to the press to make damned sure everyone knows it's him that rallied them - May falls, Boris remains at the front of the pack. This observation is too good to lose on the last page. May is being (blatently) set up by everyone in her own party and probably everyone outside it too. This is what happens when the electoral restaurant bill arrives and your political power purse only has moths in it.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:38
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Yeah that's right - the leadership frontrunners have a secret Whatsapp group that they use solely for the purpose of praising the Prime Minister.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:38
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I don't believe that leak is real. I refuse to believe that these fellas ain't profane in the face of this disaster. This is what a private politicians conversation should be like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVqyB3PHn74
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Zephro posted:You can leave the EU without leaving the single market, though. Not even the official Vote Leave campaign wanted to leave the single market. I don't see the need for the continued hard Brexiting. Yeah, Labour want to be out of the single market but in the customs union, IIRC. This cannot be real. OwlFancier posted:Yes and they're silly. Also a ton of people who don't think Corbyn's really for brexit for some inexplicable reason.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:41
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Yeah that's right - the leadership frontrunners have a secret Whatsapp group that they use solely for the purpose of praising the Prime Minister. The funniest part of BoJos clearly intended to be leaked oh no how did this get leaked message is they didn't win the Brown election either.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Yeah that's right - the leadership frontrunners have a secret Whatsapp group that they use solely for the purpose of praising the Prime Minister. The idea of this really tickles me. The idea of any official business being done through WhatsApp group chat tickles me, actually. I suppose it always just has an association with terrible bantz and asking your team to cover your shift when you're sick. I assume they use it for that too though.
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Ora Tzo posted:I don't believe that leak is real. It's very real and was very intended to become public to me.
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spectralent posted:This cannot be real. If by real you mean a thing that a person actually believes, it's not real. If you mean real as in a thing that actually exists in the world, it's real.
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Ora Tzo posted:I don't believe that leak is real. I think the key thing is that this isn't a private conversation, even disregarding the leak. Based on the title it's a group of all conservative MPs, so this is more like the management of a company sending out a message to all employees. It's going to be carefully considered and moderately professional in a way that private conversations between the top people obviously wouldn't be.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:47
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"What's the best way to get OUR post election talking points out on the news? Ah! WhatsApp it is", BoJo, probably
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Jun 11, 2017 15:49
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So this poo poo has already begun: Two arrested in clashes during Protestant march through Liverpool City Centre quote:A video has emerged that appears to show clashes during a Protestant march through Liverpool City Centre yesterday.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:50
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Raeg posted:"What's the best way to get OUR post election talking points out on the news? Ah! WhatsApp it is", BoJo, probably "We need the yoof vote! What do young people like? Ah, the whats ups, of course"
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Jun 11, 2017 15:50
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dispatch_async posted:So this poo poo has already begun: lol if you are going to start flying into a panic everytime there's a drunken scuffle at a march you're going to kill yourself
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Jun 11, 2017 15:53
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Baron Corbyn posted:I'm not so sure it was just the wrongness of the polls, I think we were genuinely pretty far back at the time May called the election, the Survation poll on 22nd April had it had 40-29 in the Tories' favour. The other polls were much worse and as we know now completely wrong, but all showed voters turning to Labour through out the campaign, so even if the methodology was wrong, they still showed trends. Yeah, the polls were spot on this time. The flaw was in the turnout assumptions (i.e. past election turnout vs self report). IIRC the Ipsos poll that showed an 8 point Tory lead actually had Labour and the Tories tied before turnout adjustments (but after demographic weighting). This is why "poll averaging" is nonsense when you have fundamental differences in methodology, the spread in results wasn't statistical noise it was purely methodological.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:54
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Hey guys I just want to know one thing. Did Piers Morgan melt down?
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Jun 11, 2017 15:56
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https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/873899597147639809 noice
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kustomkarkommando posted:lol if you are going to start flying into a panic everytime there's a drunken scuffle at a march you're going to kill yourself Yea this is cold mild poo poo. We haven't gotten to the part where children are bottled over the head or disruptions start pissing people who aren't used to them.
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Jun 11, 2017 15:59
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1. We did great, look how many people voted for us! 2. We did great, look at our vote share! 3. Corbyn did poo poo, please look only at the seats he won and ignore the two things that demonstrate we did great.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:00
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kustomkarkommando posted:lol if you are going to start flying into a panic everytime there's a drunken scuffle at a march you're going to kill yourself Extreme0 posted:Yea this is cold mild poo poo. We haven't gotten to the part where children are bottled over the head or disruptions start pissing people who aren't used to them. So far most of the focus has been on the DUP specifically and using them as a club to hit the Tories over the head with, but I don't think it's going to last. I can hardly wait for the first thoughtful editorials in English newspapers on why the Irish are a race of violent, drunken religious nuts without even the good grace to be properly grateful to Britannia for all she's done for them. Are they even really White, I wonder?
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Jun 11, 2017 16:03
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War reporters in bullet proof vests in Belfast during the 12th crouching down behind a car and talking into camera
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Starting a civil war to cling on to a majority that may not last a year is a bold strategy, let's see how it plays out.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:07
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I know it was a mistake, but I honestly didn't think Theresa May was low enough to risk restarting the troubles just to help her temporarily cling to power.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:08
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No wonder Theresa May wants the power to read other people's whatsapp messages.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:08
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kustomkarkommando posted:War reporters in bullet proof vests in Belfast during the 12th crouching down behind a car and talking into camera a lot of people have probably died hiding behind cars thinking they stop bullets because of film/tv
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Jun 11, 2017 16:09
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I know it was a mistake, but I honestly didn't think Theresa May was low enough to risk restarting the troubles just to help her temporarily cling to power. she's doing it for stability and the national interst and brexit and
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Jun 11, 2017 16:09
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Boy she's just trying to jump her way up the list of worst PMs ever huh? She saw Trump nudge next to Buchanan and said "Eden better watch his rear end."
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Jun 11, 2017 16:11
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I found a very useful documentary on the Troubles in northern ireland this should answer everyone's questions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQJrovKgrTw
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I expect it's going to be a bit of a rough marching season anyway, the loss of the unionist majority at stormont and Unionism being in official "crisis mood" coupled with direct rule on the horizon will probably lead to some "disturbances" The last "bad" season was 2013 when there where riots and Nigel Dodds got hit in the head with a brick - and that was cause they stopped flying the union jack at city hall every day kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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The thought occurs that any of those three can't actually say it's a leak without looking dodgy as all hell. What are they going to say " oh no I'd never write a memo telling everyone how much I support our leader and how we should all rally round her"
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Jun 11, 2017 16:16
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Angepain posted:I found a very useful documentary on the Troubles in northern ireland this should answer everyone's questions supplement this with a few episodes of give my head peace and you're good to go
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Jun 11, 2017 16:17
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Angepain posted:I found a very useful documentary on the Troubles in northern ireland this should answer everyone's questions nuking northern ireland would be really effective its true
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Jun 11, 2017 16:19
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May is currently going through a Cabinet reshuffle and posts are being announced. Most notable change I've heard so far is Liz Truss being demoted from Secretary of State for Justice to Treasury Chief Secretary.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:22
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Why is she having it now when the DUP are clearly going to be negotiating for a spot and making it a deal breaker.
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Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:May is currently going through a Cabinet reshuffle and posts are being announced. Most notable change I've heard so far is Liz Truss being demoted from Secretary of State for Justice to Treasury Chief Secretary. lmao if she gives it back to Gove, or even better Grayling
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Jun 11, 2017 16:24
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learnincurve posted:Why is she having it now when the DUP are clearly going to be negotiating for a spot and making it a deal breaker. I'm guessing she feels compelled to make some changes to project authority but is probably frantically apologising to everyone she meets lest they decide later on to collapse her government.
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Jun 11, 2017 16:24
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Baron Corbyn posted:lmao if she gives it back to Gove, or even better Grayling It's Damian Green
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