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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/873989940455120896

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mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Skinty McEdger posted:

Hey you know how the DUP are coming to Downing Street on Tuesday to continue negotiations? Or that at current the 1922 committee is supposed to be meeting with May on Tuesday?

Apparently no one told May as she just announced she's going to France then to meet with Macron.

Even better, I think the 1922 meeting is tomorrow :allears:

Sarah Bellum
Oct 21, 2008

Kreez posted:

Does anyone know how long and under what circumstances a British citizen must be in the UK in order to register to vote? For Commonwealth citizens if you have leave to remain, you can register to vote, it's pretty clear. No such black and white details for British citizens.

You'd need to call an electoral office and ask. I emigrated from Norn Iron 5 years and happened to be back there working during the Assembly elections early this year. I called the electoral office and asked if I was eligible to re-register and they said I'd need 6 months residency before being granted a Stormont vote again.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/PoliticalAP/status/873935434333769732

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Ahahaha :lol:

happyhippy posted:

- Michael Gove

This is the level of idiocy we are working with.
Those sure are some words. What do they mean though?

Does he mean we should replace ICT with Comp. Sci., teaching kids some broad fundamentals like algorithms and code snippets and how an ALU works instead of specifics like "here's how to mail merge in Microsoft Word 365 which will be relevant forever"? Because I agree with that.
Or does he mean that it's changing so fast that we need curricula from the future?

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Skinty McEdger posted:

Hey you know how the DUP are coming to Downing Street on Tuesday to continue negotiations? Or that at current the 1922 committee is supposed to be meeting with May on Tuesday?

Apparently no one told May as she just announced she's going to France then to meet with Macron.

May is looking for political asylum in France, clearly.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Skinty McEdger posted:

Hey you know how the DUP are coming to Downing Street on Tuesday to continue negotiations? Or that at current the 1922 committee is supposed to be meeting with May on Tuesday?

Apparently no one told May as she just announced she's going to France then to meet with Macron.

London-Paris on the Eurostar is only a 4.5 hours round trip, she's got time :downs:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Was it Owen thingummy or Angela whasserface who put out campaign material pointing out how they'd never defied the Labour whip and that horrible Corbyn had defied it hundreds of times?

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Skinty McEdger posted:

Hey you know how the DUP are coming to Downing Street on Tuesday to continue negotiations? Or that at current the 1922 committee is supposed to be meeting with May on Tuesday?

Apparently no one told May as she just announced she's going to France then to meet with Macron.
Bit late to ask the young chap how to win an election now

ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009

mfcrocker posted:

Even better, I think the 1922 meeting is tomorrow :allears:

No the cabinet sits for the first time on Monday, the 1922 is on Tuesday.

Skinty McEdger posted:

Hey you know how the DUP are coming to Downing Street on Tuesday to continue negotiations? Or that at current the 1922 committee is supposed to be meeting with May on Tuesday?

Apparently no one told May as she just announced she's going to France then to meet with Macron.

The chief whip will be taking over negotiations temporarily, since its the whips office responsibility to make sure govt bills pass through parliament.

Perhaps a hamster
Jun 15, 2010



:swoon:

what can I say, I love principles.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Found an article from the New Statesman with a nice quote from Neil Kinnock last week:

Neil Kinnock posted:

There is no honest measure of success and failure other than success equals Labour gains, Tory losses and at least a tight finish with possibility of a minority government. Failure equals Labour losses, Tory gains and an increased Tory majority.

:cawg:

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

ultrabindu posted:

No the cabinet sits for the first time on Monday, the 1922 is on Tuesday.


https://twitter.com/GuardianHeather/status/873902369431486464

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
courtesy of cspam

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006

Bobstar posted:

What sort of odds were the bookies giving on a hung parliament in the last few weeks?

Because if someone wasn't too busy* bring President and got his hands on a time machine and a political almanac he could really have been going to be clean up in the last few years.

I put a cheeky £2 on at the start of the campaign at 9/1

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


A Black Mark For Retarded Posting
I don't care what any of you say, Corbyn was awful his first year and it wasn't entirely the PLP's fault they wouldn't back him. He was a long term backbench rebel MP who was thrust into a job he didn't particularly want and whose demands he didn't know how to meet. But now that he has clearly hit his stride and grown into the role, I can certainly see the case that Corbyn might actually be the loving boy

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Hoops posted:

I don't care what any of you say, Corbyn was awful his first year and it wasn't entirely the PLP's fault they wouldn't back him. He was a long term backbench rebel MP who was thrust into a job he didn't particularly want and whose demands he didn't know how to meet. But now that he has clearly hit his stride and grown into the role, I'm willing to accept that Corbyn might actually be the loving boy

i don't think anyone disagrees. it took some time but he's clearly gained the experience necessary

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

jabby posted:

Found an article from the New Statesman with a nice quote from Neil Kinnock last week:


:cawg:

It also links to this one

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/09/peter-mandelson-i-pray-every-day-early-election-end-labours-awful-state

Peter Mandelson while somewhere a finger on a monkey's paw slowly closes posted:

I pray every day for an early election to end Labour's awful state

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Bobstar posted:

What sort of odds were the bookies giving on a hung parliament in the last few weeks?

Because if someone wasn't too busy* bring President and got his hands on a time machine and a political almanac he could really have been going to be clean up in the last few years.

I got £5 at 9/1 on a hung parliament about 2 weeks out? Nice earner.

El Grillo
Jan 3, 2008
Fun Shoe
To be fair JC's weak points have been the bits in between elections. Except for a couple of weeks before the general where they just started to finally get their poo poo together, get a proper media strategy going etc.
I'm much more confident this time around, given that and the PLP looking like they might've actually got the message finally.

Also I still can't believe we're here and that Thursday night wasn't just a dream. I had to stay up cramming for an exam in the morning and it should've been one of the worst nights I've ever had, but it was just loving glorious. If it turns out I didn't fail, I attribute it to Corbz.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Hoops posted:

I don't care what any of you say, Corbyn was awful his first year and it wasn't entirely the PLP's fault they wouldn't back him. He was a long term backbench rebel MP who was thrust into a job he didn't particularly want and whose demands he didn't know how to meet. But now that he has clearly hit his stride and grown into the role, I can certainly see the case that Corbyn might actually be the loving boy

Ironically I think the leadership challenges helped, because we've now got tons of veteran volunteer campaigners and campaign organisers.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Now is Michael Green's chance to shine. If you don't agree, he will bully you until you top yourself, then go through your pockets for spare change.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Hoops posted:

I don't care what any of you say, Corbyn was awful his first year and it wasn't entirely the PLP's fault they wouldn't back him. He was a long term backbench rebel MP who was thrust into a job he didn't particularly want and whose demands he didn't know how to meet. But now that he has clearly hit his stride and grown into the role, I'm can certainly see the case that Corbyn might actually be the loving boy

Eh, I'd not go nearly as far as awful (it was bad at times, less so at others), and of as you say yourself he was in a job he was unprepared for having never even served in a shadow cabinet role before so it was obviously going to take a bit of time to get his sea legs (nor any of his advisors). Elements in the PLP were quite unwilling to give him that time, and were out to sabotage him from day 1, hell, even from before that initial leadership campaign was over you had people saying he'd amount to nothing. Even if you give them a pass for that, forcing the leadership election that they quite obviously could never win when Jeremy had made it crystal clear he would only step down if he lost support of the membership was spectacularly stupid and tone deaf. The chicken coup was an utter shambles, and these people don't even have the loving excuse of not having been in the corridors of power before!

So no, I think you give the PLP far too much of a pass, & while I'm quite happy to let history remain in the past & see any Labour MP who is willing to accept the 2017 manifesto as the Labour platform sit in the Shadow Cabinet so we can finally have a united Labour Party getting behind its leader at a time when the country desperately needs it, Angela Eagle & Owen Smith's leadership challenges were loving stupid. That's just what it is.

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS

jabby posted:

Theresa May getting interviewed on BBC news.

First question was 'are you a dead woman walking?'.

Second question was literally 'how are you feeling?'.

It's not going well.

"Don't you think she looks tired?"


That's a :krad: jacket.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Yeah the leadership fights meant we got an insanely battle-hardened leader with experience running a national campaign. Meanwhile the Conservative coronation meant they got someone who collapsed spectacularly under pressure.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
If you want a Gang Tag drop me a PM. Please don't fill up the thread asking for them.



They'll take a little to turn up.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Hoops posted:

I don't care what any of you say, Corbyn was awful his first year and it wasn't entirely the PLP's fault they wouldn't back him. He was a long term backbench rebel MP who was thrust into a job he didn't particularly want and whose demands he didn't know how to meet. But now that he has clearly hit his stride and grown into the role, I can certainly see the case that Corbyn might actually be the loving boy

I mean it wasn't just whether Corbs was the best leader of all time, which I think got meme'd out of the discussion a lot - it was that if he resigned then there was very few people in the left that a) were let through into Parliament through the Blair years and b) could possibily ever again get nominated now that they knew the membership was ready to vote for people who didn't agree with them. Corbyn staying on was not just about Corbyn but about the left keeping its hold on the party by the skin of its teeth.

e: hi Fans I don't have PMs because I am a worthless scrounger but sign me up! cheers. :newdanger:

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Fans posted:

If you want a Gang Tag drop me a PM. Please don't fill up the thread asking for them.



They'll take a little to turn up.

:( what about commie plat icons?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

communism bitch posted:

:( what about commie plat icons?

this but the anarchy ones

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

spectralent posted:

Ironically I think the leadership challenges helped, because we've now got tons of veteran volunteer campaigners and campaign organisers.

From simply getting on to the ballot at the very first leadership challenge all the way to last week, Jeremy Corbyn has through some combination of guile and sheer dumb luck capitalized on every attack on him. He'd was put on the ballot to be a an old leftist punching bag as a contrast, and turned that into a crushing victory. They took another swing at him and not only did they fail to dislodge him they cemented his position and fed his team experience and talent. The entire British press spent months bashing him so viciously that May thought she had an open goal (before realizing she was facing the wrong direction) and yet he somehow did it again.

Man's a wizard. I don't get it at all, but I love it.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Yeah the leadership fights meant we got an insanely battle-hardened leader with experience running a national campaign. Meanwhile the Conservative coronation meant they got someone who collapsed spectacularly under pressure.

One of the campaign organisers here has run three previous campaigns. He's 21 and has no plans to get into politics.

thehappyprince
Apr 4, 2006

Alastair Cock

https://twitter.com/davidwearing/status/873820030739283968

none of these snakes should be allowed back

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014


If she needs to deliver a "barnstorming performance" she's picked the right allies. Her new DUP buddies are well-versed in creating political storms in barns.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Jose posted:

this but the anarchy ones

Pretend I said that. I forgot we talked about those.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Fans posted:

If you want a Gang Tag drop me a PM. Please don't fill up the thread asking for them.



They'll take a little to turn up.

Am I allowed to ask in the thread as I don't have PM:s?

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
https://twitter.com/SiobhanFenton/status/873913742949584896

incidental, Fenton's a great one to follow for NI politics stuff

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
I think the one thing we have to remember is soon enough we're going to have a bigger proportion of the population who remembers the hell that was the Thatcher years and this current austerity shite, let alone the misery Brexit is going to bring as opposed to the bad labour years of the 60s and 70s. Things are looking up, they really are

Undead Hippo
Jun 2, 2013

Proof that Corbyn is bad for British jobs.

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

hookerbot 5000 posted:

It's a The Thick of It reference (the leader of the opposition gets followed round by a journalist dressed as a pork chop when she is on the ropes), unfortunately though if you look up Thick of It pork chop on you tube it just comes up with a load of recipe videos.

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Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord

Mr. Flunchy posted:

The opposition in this country are referred to as the 'shadow' government. They're mandated to wear all black in public and must conceal their faces when Parliament is in session. They're tasked with undermining their 'light' counterpart by any means necessary.

Here's the outfit:



You could really sell people on this as fact with the pictures of Lord Buckethead alongside May etc.

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