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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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TomViolence posted:I'd wager most of us have you on ignore so we're not exposed to such a mindset that often. Yes, thank you for standing up and providing an excellent example of it. VitalSigns posted:Oh my God fix'd for UKMTers.
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Have we got an updated list of who is loyal and who is a plotter within the Labour Party? To cut to the chase I am trying to work out who is the person to continue JC's work. I am hoping there is a young woman I can get behind, I like Thornberry but to secure the future we need to look to the future.
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freebooter posted:I think CCTV coverage of public places and a national citizenry database are apples and oranges. even taking out kids its more like 70% I've just had a couple of letters arrive from a debt collection agency claiming I owe british gas about £200 for somewhere I don't live. So wouldn't mind at all if the UK was better at proof of address tbh Cerv fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 10:33
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The Insect Court posted:Yes, thank you for standing up and providing an excellent example of it. Where were you during the road salt crisis in that winter a few years ago
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Jun 12, 2017 10:33
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The Insect Court posted:fix'd for UKMTers. Yes, if there's one thing the election showed it was definitely that the only way to stop the conservatives is to leave loving useless people with no opinions beyond 'don't do unelectable things' in the labour party. The only way.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:34
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notaspy posted:Have we got an updated list of who is loyal and who is a plotter within the Labour Party? becky long bailey owns
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Jun 12, 2017 10:40
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Clive Lewis seems like a good egg, though I don't know too much about his policies. He's also got the military background going for him.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:42
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But there aren't any histrionic calls for purges? Everything I've read here has been along the lines of "some of them put power before principle but now that it's been shown the two aren't directly opposed in the context of the British public's appetite for leftist policy, let's talk them round". Deselection is a thoroughly democratic way of addressing the remainder. Also lol at Dan Cona, what a fudd.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:43
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Entropy238 posted:Clive Lewis seems like a good egg, though I don't know too much about his policies. He's also got the military background going for him. https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/25356/clive_lewis/norwich_south/votes
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Jun 12, 2017 10:45
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You know things are good for the jam man when even the traditional trolls don't have their hearts in it any more
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Jun 12, 2017 10:45
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So is the 1922 meeting today? Can they even do it before they've finalised talks with the DUP?
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The Insect Court posted:Yes, thank you for standing up and providing an excellent example of it. Babies under a year old should have less than 1g of salt a day. If a baby is breastfed, they will get the right amount of minerals, including sodium and chloride, from breast milk. Formula milk contains a similar amount to breast milk.
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notaspy posted:To cut to the chase I am trying to work out who is the person to continue JC's work. I am hoping there is a young woman I can get behind, I like Thornberry but to secure the future we need to look to the future. presumably almost all the options will be one of the original 35 corbyn backers quote:Diane Abbott, MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington
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Jun 12, 2017 10:48
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The 1922 Committee sounds like the name of a Hardcore band.
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Obliterati posted:You know things are good for the jam man when even the traditional trolls don't have their hearts in it any more There's a small vindictive part of me that wishes Tristram oval office was still around to offer apologies, but it's for the best the smug cock hosed off.
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 Owen Smith just hand-delivered this. He was off up the road too fast but I wanted to thank him for the mea culpa on Friday.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:50
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coffeetable posted:presumably almost all the options will be one of the original 35 corbyn backers It won't be Margaret Beckett, my bold prediction. I would blow Dane Cook posted:The 1922 Committee sounds like the name of a Hardcore band. Post-hardcore maybe. Influenced by At The Drive-In & Sunny Day Real Estate.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:51
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The Insect Court posted:If there's any group of people anywhere who should be less surprised at the idea of a person's politics being driven primarily by mindless spite, it's UKMT regulars.  Are you going to stay this shrill until the next election
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Jun 12, 2017 10:52
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I hope this week is bad for Theresa May
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Jun 12, 2017 10:52
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forkboy84 posted:It won't be Margaret Beckett, my bold prediction. I mean their songs would be about stabbing people in the back and betrayal. I think i'm onto something here.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:53
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coffeetable posted:presumably almost all the options will be one of the original 35 corbyn backers Not necessarily - several only back him them to widen to debate or to their own ends(Sadiq Khan)
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Jun 12, 2017 10:54
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forkboy84 posted:It won't be Margaret Beckett, my bold prediction. actually yeah, could someone with more knowledge of labour internals go through the list and bold the ones who are particularly promising, and strike through the ones which don't have a chance? from my tiny knowledge: quote:
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Jun 12, 2017 10:55
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Xaerael posted:I didn't think it was possible for me to like Corbs any more than I already did, but Fizzy Apple juice is MY favourite drink too! I'm quite fond of it too (if you put alcohol in it and call it cider)
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Jun 12, 2017 10:56
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nothing to seehere posted:Not necessarily - several only back him them to widen to debate or to their own ends(Sadiq Khan) not everyone who's in the list is a possible successor, but all possible successors are on the list (assuming they didn't join in the 2017 election, which seems unlikely) coffeetable fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 10:58
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coffeetable posted:actually yeah, could someone with more knowledge of labour internals go through the list and bold the ones who are particularly promising, and strike through the ones which don't have a chance? Jo Cox  Why is McDonnell controversial?
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Jun 12, 2017 11:05
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notaspy posted:Have we got an updated list of who is loyal and who is a plotter within the Labour Party?
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Jun 12, 2017 11:09
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Perhaps a hamster posted:Jo Cox he's a socialist and a republican. If anything I think the sheer relentlessness of the attacks on Corbyn from those angles almost give him a window of opportunity, he's a long way to the left of the British public on many things that they aren't going to be very interested on hearing attacked. He's a lot less reconciliatory in demeanor than Corbyn though, anyone that didn't like him will hate McDonnell
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feedmegin posted:I'm quite fond of it too (if you put alcohol in it and call it cider) I was fond of cider too once, but I have an unfortunate story about 18 year old me, xmas eve at the pub, and old friends buying me far more cider than 18 year old me could handle. The ending goes that just the smell of cider is enough to turn my stomach now, and I drink ales with stupid names now.
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Jun 12, 2017 11:09
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Perhaps a hamster posted:Jo Cox A lot of the PLP do not like him on a whole level beyond Corbyn. He is a people's politician, not a politician's politician. He would be coup city. Also he is gaffe prone. Basically, he isn't your No. 1, but he is a fantastic No. 2. Tulip is, I believe if you are looking for a young and inspiring woman, the best candidate on that list, but she has no cabinet experience yet.
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Jun 12, 2017 11:10
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Perhaps a hamster posted:Jo Cox "Corbyn is an IRA sympathiser" x 100000 also internally I've heard that, while people can say Corbyn's sometimes (used to be?) a bit of a poor leader, he is actually pretty good-natured, but McDonell is a lot more vicious and political. Which is fine, you need those people in a party, but for the same reasons you generally don't want them to be your boss.
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Jun 12, 2017 11:11
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I like John McDonnell but he's not PM material because he's the sort of arsehole who produces a copy of the Little Red Book in the Commons. He's the kind of guy who you want behind the throne pushing the left wing agenda and bollocking everybody who steps out of line.
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Is there a list of MPs who were outspoken that they only nominated Corbyn "to widen the debate" and not for reals? Or a list who publicly regretted their nomination once he got the leadership?
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Austerity-chat: Also the government can borrow money at rates unheard of since all the Bibles were written in Latin* and spending what is basically free money on things like roads, broadband etc is a really good idea since those things will generate returns in the future *I'm not even joking - interest rates have never been this low in the whole ~400 year history of central banking
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Jun 12, 2017 11:12
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Thanks for McDonnell info, guys, makes sense.
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Zero Gravitas posted:Where were you during the road salt crisis in that winter a few years ago Ahahahahahaha. coffeetable posted:actually yeah, could someone with more knowledge of labour internals go through the list and bold the ones who are particularly promising, and strike through the ones which don't have a chance? Missing at least one more dead one there: Meacher. And some of them like Cruddy Jon are absolutely not what we want.
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Jun 12, 2017 11:15
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Halisnacks posted:Is there a list of MPs who were outspoken that they only nominated Corbyn "to widen the debate" and not for reals? Or a list who publicly regretted their nomination once he got the leadership? if you shorten a list down to anyone who has ever expressed doubt in corbyn after he became leader, at the lowest points in his leadership and how many of those lows there have been to the public, then i think the list will only contain john mcdonnell you need to be willing to accept, and probably also want, someone who is willing to gaze a critical eye over Corbyn's tenure as leader in any future contest, who is willing to judge both the successes and failures fairly. this means being willing to say some elements were bad.
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Jun 12, 2017 11:16
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Xaerael posted:I was fond of cider too once, but I have an unfortunate story about 18 year old me, xmas eve at the pub, and old friends buying me far more cider than 18 year old me could handle. I'm really lucky I never got to that point with any alcohol despite having more than my fair share of nights where too much of a type of alcohol was drunk & I ended up barfing. Including in the past week. Never learn.
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Jun 12, 2017 11:16
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notaspy posted:Have we got an updated list of who is loyal and who is a plotter within the Labour Party? Jess Phillips and Chris Leslie are the two most vocal critics so far, they will be kept far from power and will be the ones feeding Dan Hodges et. al publicly. Tom Watson and Chukka have awkwardly bent the knee - they will be quiet for now, but watch out for them if things go badly. Yvette Cooper is a snake waiting to strike but she's too popular within the PLP really to keep away from power, plus Corbyn is too good for this world and really doesn't like punishing people. She is definitely one to keep an eye on.
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Jun 12, 2017 11:17
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Halisnacks posted:Is there a list of MPs who were outspoken that they only nominated Corbyn "to widen the debate" and not for reals? Or a list who publicly regretted their nomination once he got the leadership? Beckett, Cruddas, Field, Khan, a few others.
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