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Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

The Dirty Burger posted:

Mark Streit getting traded to a team that won the cup in his last year owns, owns twice as hard that he won't even get his name on it

I'm sure they'll lobby to get his name on it given he played a few playoff games.

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Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

The Dirty Burger posted:

Mark Streit getting traded to a team that won the cup in his last year owns, owns twice as hard that he won't even get his name on it

the philadelphia flyers retained 4.7% of mark streit's salary so he could help pittsburgh win a cup

Benson Cunningham
Dec 9, 2006

Chief of J.U.N.K.E.R. H.Q.
Streit is almost certainly going to get his name on it.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Word is David Clarkson+1st+prospect is going to Vegas for an unknown return or condition.

Let the games begin.

e- One rumor I saw last week said Vegas' 2nd round pick would be coming back.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Jun 12, 2017

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

At least Phil Kessel has twice as many Cups than the Leafs in the last 50 years. I can feel good about that.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
I am hype for expansion stuff.

Was that contest thing announced?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Benson Cunningham posted:

Streit is almost certainly going to get his name on it.

I don't know, only 3 games and not good enough to be put in on an extremely injured team in the finals isn't a very good claim.

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


MononcQc posted:

it replaced "teams without money can't compete" with "teams that can't manage contracts can't compete"

that, or crosby-malkin and toews-kane. superstar players dominate like they always have.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

yellowcar posted:

At least Phil Kessel has twice as many Cups than the Leafs in the last 50 years. I can feel good about that.

Wouldn't it be triple? Didn't he win a cup with Boston too?

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Gio posted:

that, or crosby-malkin and toews-kane. superstar players dominate like they always have.

Yakupov-RNH

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Wouldn't it be triple? Didn't he win a cup with Boston too?

No he got traded before that.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


The Dirty Burger posted:

Mark Streit getting traded to a team that won the cup in his last year owns, owns twice as hard that he won't even get his name on it

Isn't the rule 1 playoff game? Or is it 1 SCF game?

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Fleury has reportedly waived his NMC to make him eligible for the expansion draft.

https://www.murphyshockeylaw.net/murphys-hockey-law/mhl-per-nhl-sources-marc-andre-fleury-waived-his-modified-nmc-for-expansion-draft/

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

flakeloaf posted:

Yakupov-RNH

He said superstars

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Welp, congrats pens fans on your team not having to buy out Fleury

iospace
Jan 19, 2038



Got any other sources?

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS
Is it even a guarantee that Vegas picks Fleury? Aren't there a lot of goalies available right now?

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


i am the bird posted:

Is it even a guarantee that Vegas picks Fleury? Aren't there a lot of goalies available right now?

Plenty, none are that good though

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

i am the bird posted:

Is it even a guarantee that Vegas picks Fleury?

No, but if that report is correct, the pens no longer have to protect him and expose Murray - and Vegas would have definitely taken Murray in that instance

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
yeah, so the Pens could theoretically end up keeping both of them if Vegas decides they want someone else. Fleury would be a good choice for them though so it wouldn't surprise me if they took him.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

iospace posted:

Got any other sources?

As of now no, but Jimmy Murphy is legit. He's a pretty big Boston reporter and verified on twitter. He's not a crank with a blog.

https://twitter.com/MurphysLaw74/status/874284556362420228

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

DJExile posted:

Plenty, none are that good though

Grubauer and Rantta are both likely to be exposed and are both better than Fleury IMO

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
and of course the pens could now try and trade him with the NMC waived I guess - pick up another goalie to play a backup role/expose in the draft in the process

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


ThinkTank posted:

As of now no, but Jimmy Murphy is legit. He's a pretty big Boston reporter and verified on twitter. He's not a crank with a blog.

https://twitter.com/MurphysLaw74/status/874284556362420228

I was about to say Joe Saward as a counterpoint, but then I realized he wasn't verified.

Oh well.

whatis
Jun 6, 2012
Barring any big roster changes before everything is due, here is the one true protection list for the Buffalo Hockey Sabres. If Jason Botterill does anything different than indicated below I will immediately hate his guts

Forwards
O'Reilly
Okposo
Kane
Carrier
Larsson
Girgensons
Foligno

Defensemen
Ristolainen
McCabe
Falk (aka "anyone that isn't Zack Bogosian or Josh Gorges")

Goalie
Lehner

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
I always assumed the Pens would trade Maf to Vegas and then Vegas would take someone else in the ED as well but this is even better.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
I think Vegas probably will take MAF actually, unless the Pens do something retarded like expose Dumo or Jultz

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Ginette Reno posted:

I always assumed the Pens would trade Maf to Vegas and then Vegas would take someone else in the ED as well but this is even better.

That is still the most likely course of events, this just means that Pittsburgh can expose MAF in the draft. There's no good reason that Vegas would select him when they can select someone else off the Pens roster and then work on prying an extra asset or two from Pittsburgh in return for solving their cap/goalie issues.

JollyPubJerk
Nov 10, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

whatis posted:

Barring any big roster changes before everything is due, here is the one true protection list for the Buffalo Hockey Sabres. If Jason Botterill does anything different than indicated below I will immediately hate his guts

Forwards
O'Reilly
Okposo
Kane
Carrier
Larsson
Girgensons
Foligno

Defensemen
Ristolainen
McCabe
Falk (aka "anyone that isn't Zack Bogosian or Josh Gorges")

Goalie
Lehner

lol if you think Falk gets protected over Bogo

Sabres have nothing worthwhile to lose, so either they lose Ullmark or Ennis/Moulson, depending on the cap hit Vegas wants to take. Hopefully McPhee does us a favor.

Though a defense trade is likely in the works.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

the funny thing is that the coyotes are looking at exposing mike smith who would be leagues better behind a bad team than fleury would be.

ryan miller or mason or whomever on a 2 year deal with the acknowledgement that developing domingue is the #1 concern would be good

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

ThinkTank posted:

That is still the most likely course of events, this just means that Pittsburgh can expose MAF in the draft. There's no good reason that Vegas would select him when they can select someone else off the Pens roster and then work on prying an extra asset or two from Pittsburgh in return for solving their cap/goalie issues.

Yeah I still think it's a possible result and I'd be surprised if Vegas didn't explore it.

whatis
Jun 6, 2012

JollyPubJerk posted:

lol if you think Falk gets protected over Bogo

Sabres have nothing worthwhile to lose, so either they lose Ullmark or Ennis/Moulson, depending on the cap hit Vegas wants to take. Hopefully McPhee does us a favor.

Though a defense trade is likely in the works.

You protect Falk because if you can unload Bogosian on Vegas and get out from underneath his cap hit, you do it. Bogo is the "better" player, and while it's possible he rebounds under a coach that isn't Dan Bylsma, cap management is going to be very important for the next few years, and it's supposedly one of Botterill's biggest strengths. I will not be one bit surprised if Bogo gets exposed for that reason alone

Duck Rodgers
Oct 9, 2012

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Grubauer and Rantta are both likely to be exposed and are both better than Fleury IMO

I think if there are 3 good goalies available they will take them all and then trade the one that they can get the most picks/prospects for. They won't be able to keep all 30 picks on the NHL roster anyway.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
The real interesting expansion question is the Ducks, they pretty much need to move Vatanen for a forward and to trade for an eligible D to expose or they'll probably have to expose Manson

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
I'm interested in the Wild too. My understanding is one of Brodin or Dumba will have to be exposed unless they're traded first.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
MAF waiving his NMC for Vegas 12 hours after the Finals end most likely means some kind of deal is already in place and Vegas has probably assured him that he will be their opening night starter, IMO. I doubt they promised him anything longer term than that and they'll probably give him a 50/50ish split with whichever younger guy they pick, but it makes sense for them.MAF will likely be by far the most marketable name on the inaugural Knights and insofar as there's such a thing as Veteran Presence he's pretty much the best possible guy for providing it.

The Preds are either about to trade one of their 4 good defensemen to somebody that can protect him or are going to give Vegas a pile of goodies not to take one, right?

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
If MAF really wanted to play in Vegas he's giving up millions by not forcing the Pens to buy him out and then just signing with the Knights. Stupid choice

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa

A Typical Goon posted:

If MAF really wanted to play in Vegas he's giving up millions by not forcing the Pens to buy him out and then just signing with the Knights. Stupid choice

Agreed, but he seems like a cool guy by all accounts. Might just be doing them a solid by not making it a huge deal, which is dumb from a financial standpoint I guess, but sentiment can be a powerful thing.

The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line

Eric the Mauve posted:

The Preds are either about to trade one of their 4 good defensemen to somebody that can protect him or are going to give Vegas a pile of goodies not to take one, right?

This prompted me to take a look at the Preds roster, and who the hell is Calle Jarnkrok's agent? 6 years at $2mil/yr when you're 24 seems really bad, those are your prime years to cash in

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JollyPubJerk
Nov 10, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

whatis posted:

You protect Falk because if you can unload Bogosian on Vegas and get out from underneath his cap hit, you do it. Bogo is the "better" player, and while it's possible he rebounds under a coach that isn't Dan Bylsma, cap management is going to be very important for the next few years, and it's supposedly one of Botterill's biggest strengths. I will not be one bit surprised if Bogo gets exposed for that reason alone

you're stupid and wrong. With Ennis and Moulson on the roster you don't make the surefire target Bogosian. Everyone looked awful under Bylsma.

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