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The Dirty Burger posted:This prompted me to take a look at the Preds roster, and who the hell is Calle Jarnkrok's agent? 6 years at $2mil/yr when you're 24 seems really bad, those are your prime years to cash in He had 18 points in 74 games the year before. He didn't have the best position to negotiate.
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The Dirty Burger posted:This prompted me to take a look at the Preds roster, and who the hell is Calle Jarnkrok's agent? 6 years at $2mil/yr when you're 24 seems really bad, those are your prime years to cash in Didn't Detroit keep him in the minors forever? How long is his RFA status?
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whatis posted:Barring any big roster changes before everything is due, here is the one true protection list for the Buffalo Hockey Sabres. If Jason Botterill does anything different than indicated below I will immediately hate his guts I'll do one for Calgary! Forwards J.Gaudreau S.Monahan M.Backlund M.Frolik M.Ferland M.Stajan (has an NTC, hopefully he waives it because he's cooked and I'd rather protect Versteeg) T.Brouwer Defencemen M.Giordano D.Hamilton T. Brodie Goalies: C. Johnson (I actually want him to stay)
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Eric the Mauve posted:
Or protect all 4 and expose some pretty good forwards.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:M.Stajan (has an NTC, hopefully he waives it because he's cooked and I'd rather protect Versteeg) Only NMC's have to be auto-protected unless waived. NTC's are fair game. Anyways, Edmonton's expansion list is pretty to guess easy right now. With no moves it's a 7-3-1: Forwards: Lucic (NMC) Draisaitl Nugent-Hopkins Eberle Maroon Letestu Kassian (McDavid, Slepyshev, Puljujarvi exempt) Defense: Sekera (NMC) Klefbom Larsson (Nurse, Benning exempt) Goalie: Talbot (NMC) Kilza fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Agreed, but he seems like a cool guy by all accounts. Might just be doing them a solid by not making it a huge deal, which is dumb from a financial standpoint I guess, but sentiment can be a powerful thing. Only thing I can think of is if he's worried about length of contract by going UFA, or wants to be guaranteed a starting position. But really there's no downside to not getting bought out and signing on with a new team. I know he's a good guy, but teams cut character guys all the time and justify it as a business. The one time the shoe is on the other foot the team gets an easy out.
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Loqieu posted:Only thing I can think of is if he's worried about length of contract by going UFA, or wants to be guaranteed a starting position. But really there's no downside to not getting bought out and signing on with a new team. I know he's a good guy, but teams cut character guys all the time and justify it as a business. The one time the shoe is on the other foot the team gets an easy out. I agree. Also I guess I'll do Boston's probable protection list since that seems to be the discussion now: They'll almost certainly do 7-3-1 Forwards: Patrice Bergeron Brad Marchand David Krejci (NMC) David Backes (NMC) David Pastrnak Riley Nash Ryan Spooner Defensemen: Zdeno Chara (NMC) Torey Krug Kevin Miller or Colin Miller (it should be Colin IMO) Goalie: Tuukka Rask Carlo, McAvoy, Vatrano, and a few other guys are all exempt. So that leaves as notable exposed players: Whichever Miller doesn't get protected Matt Beleskey Jimmy Hayes Adam McQuaid Anton Khudobin Malcolm Subban
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Agreed, but he seems like a cool guy by all accounts. Might just be doing them a solid by not making it a huge deal, which is dumb from a financial standpoint I guess, but sentiment can be a powerful thing. He might also have aspirations to be a part of the organization down the line and he doesn't want to burn bridges right now. Sure he's giving up some cash but he also has a life after hockey to worry about where he could make up the difference if he so chooses.
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Aphrodite posted:Vatrano is not exempt. Vatrano only has played 2 pro seasons (the season where he played 5 games in the AHL doesn't count), he's exempt.
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ThinkTank posted:As of now no, but Jimmy Murphy is legit. He's a pretty big Boston reporter and verified on twitter. He's not a crank with a blog. jimmy murphy makes up poo poo about the NHL every day of his life
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Aphrodite posted:Vatrano is not exempt. he is
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Aye Doc posted:jimmy murphy makes up poo poo about the NHL every day of his life I've legitimately never seen any of his rumors come to fruition
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ThinkTank posted:As of now no, but Jimmy Murphy is legit. He's a pretty big Boston reporter and verified on twitter. He's not a crank with a blog. This is a joke right cause Jimmy Murphy is a Grade A Shitbird Jamwad Hilder posted:I agree. This seems the most likely to me too. I just know they're gonna keep K.Miller over C.Miller and I'm gonna hate every second of it
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The best thing about Jimmy Murphy is he has a Twitter for his hockey blog, where he is the only writer, that's separate from his regular Twitter.
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Flyers Protection list Forwards Giroux (NMC) Flippula (NMC) Simmonds (NMC) Schenn Vorachek Couturier Laughton Defense Ghost Bear Gudas Manning Goalie Stolarz Other options: Flyers can go with Cousins/Weal/Read/etc instead of Laughton. They're all kinda JAGy to an extent. Andrew MacDonald instead of Manning because the Flyers org really loves Andrew MacDonald for some insane reason
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Supposedly Calgary is interested in MAF, as well. Lebrun said as such. Both him and Friedman think MTL are gonna trade Galchenyuk, thus ensuring that MTL retain their loving idiot heavyweight championship. Ugh, I do not loving want MAF. He's too easily rattled. WIsh we could get Antti Ranta somehow, or maybe just sign Mike Condon, call up Jon Gillies, and call it a day.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Flyers Protection list I wouldn't mind Weal getting the protection instead. Laughton never seems to have found a spot on the team.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Flyers Protection list I more or less agree but I'd protect Raffl over Laughton or any of the other guys, he's the only one who's really had a consistent NHL role and isn't a broken shell of his former self (RIP Matt Read  ).
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Second source RE: MAF https://twitter.com/renlavoietva/status/874330582632861697
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MAF has 3 Cups, a Gold Medal and almost every franchise goaltending stat for the Pens and you guys are acting like getting that kind of talent is a bad thing. You should all feel shame for that and THANKFUL that your shitass team is even in the same breath as the almighty St Marc. But seriously, I will be sad to see him go and will never boo him. Can't wait until he comes back and retires as a Pen and they retire his number and on the day they raise his number he drives past the arena and then in an attempt to get back, overcompensates and ends up in Heinz Field on his head.
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Is there any incentive for teams not to go nuts handing out bad contracts? It seems like either the league or some other dumbass GM or the player himself are more than willing to bail you out.
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Only Las Vegas. Overtime, guaranteed! (Isn't that what we were told back in the Versus days?) This is why we can't have nice things, guys. 
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Mike_V posted:Is there any incentive for teams not to go nuts handing out bad contracts? It seems like either the league or some other dumbass GM or the player himself are more than willing to bail you out. I mean the Blackhawks are no longer contenders because of that very thing, so yes?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I mean the Blackhawks are no longer contenders because of that very thing, so yes? After three cups, finishing atop the West this past year, and teams extending their viability by taking bad contracts off their hands for good returns.
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Isles are probably gonna have the funkiest looking protection list if their roster is the same on the 18th as it is today A lot of people think it'll shake out like this - Forwards Tavares Ladd (nmc) Lee Defense Leddy Boychuk (nmc) Hamonic De Haan Pulock Goalie Greiss Which is why the odds are incredibly high that the isles make at least one trade, probably involving Hamonic or de Haan, for a forward in the next few days. Ryan strome and brock Nelson also have a high chance to move since they'd be unprotected anyway and still have some value.
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JollyPubJerk posted:you're stupid and wrong. With Ennis and Moulson on the roster you don't make the surefire target Bogosian. Everyone looked awful under Bylsma. All three make within 600k of one another, but Bogosian is the most expensive in terms of average cap hit and he has more term left on his contract. Bogo probably has the best odds of rebounding (they're still not good odds), but assuming similar "production" going forward, all three of him, Moulson, and Ennis are extremely replaceable by players that make way less money. Exposing Bogo is not a stupid move, but by all means, continue thinking the bad player who gets paid more money and is on the books for longer is more valuable than the other bad players.
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Mike_V posted:After three cups, finishing atop the West this past year, and teams extending their viability by taking bad contracts off their hands for good returns. Of course, I'm just saying the luck runs out eventually, and that's assuming you have the benefit of dumb teams doing the same for you that they did for Chicago.
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Here ill do who should montreal protect Pacioretty Galchenyuk Gallagher Price Expose everybody else
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Capitals will likely be 7-3-1. My guesses: Forwards Ovechkin Backstrom Kuznetsov Burakovsky Johansson Wilson Eller Defensemen Niskanen Orlov Carlson Goalie Holtby It'll likely be Grubauer or Schmidt that gets selected. Honestly I'd like to see them try to trade Carlson for a good young forward and protect that forward and expose either Eller or Wilson in his place. I really want them to keep Nate Schmidt. He good.
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The Ottawa Hockey Karlssons protect list Erik Karlsson. I'm goin on break.
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Matt Zerella posted:Still no word on if Jeff asked one of the wonder twins to waive? There are apparently "rumors" that the rangers "could" buy out Girardi but good luck finding any reputable corroboration
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So my thought is to go like last season, and to keep this thread up until the draft, at which point we'll put up the Offseason N/V and FA thread.
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I think the parity talk is a little overrated. Like someone said this isn't different from most periods in NHL history, and if you look at the cup runners-up, you see a pretty big list of teams that could have won a cup if the Finals (not entirely a crapshoot, but a 7-game series can still swing by chance) had turned out differently- Nashville, San Jose, Philly, Rangers, Vancouver. e) it's also funny that the "NHL has no parity" evidence is like, "only four teams won over an 8 year period!!!" like, what do you want, two different teams in the Finals every year? Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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I do.
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Vegas/Carolina Stanley Cup Final 2018, book it
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