TG Chat Thread 2017

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Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

Subjunctive posted:

Nah. Any black tea steeped to spec will have detectable tannins, just like any red wine.

I meant so bitter that you need to cut it. I guess people do have different levels of bitterness tolerance, though, so :shrug:

Tekopo posted:

the only way to drink coffee is espresso, no sipping either, just down it like a shot

But (good) espresso is too delicious not to sip and savor!

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# ? May 14, 2024 21:53

Serf: May 5, 2011

Arivia posted:

ew why would you want sweetened tea except for iced tea

sugar is anathema to a good cup of tea

the only tea i have ever experienced is iced tea

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:08

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Serf posted:

the only tea i have ever experienced is iced tea

That's like the d20 of teas. You are seriously missing out! Try different ones!

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:10

Haystack: Jan 23, 2005

Actually, you'll find that the best tea has butter in it. This is true because Tibetans are magic and certainly not just people with lots of cold butter.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:11

Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

That's like the d20 of teas.

A serious accusation :eyepop:

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:12

Arivia: Mar 17, 2011

it's true though, mass-produced and supposedly good for anything when it only works for a very narrow subset

@serf: get over here and I'll make you a good cuppa of builder's tea. it doesn't count if it can't stain your dishes

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:16

Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

Arivia posted:

it's true though, mass-produced and supposedly good for anything when it only works for a very narrow subset

I never said it was wrong :v:

However I will defend iced tea, but I won't defend d20. I got nothin' nice to say about d20 really.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:19

Alien Rope Burn: Dec 5, 2004; _{I wanna be a saikyo HERO!}

I'll have whatever kind of tea annoys purists. Sweet tea with lemon, maybe.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:28

Haystack: Jan 23, 2005

I love green tea with milk in it. Skim milk. And honey. And lemon.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:37

dwarf74: Sep 2, 2012; Buglord

Harrow posted:

However I will defend iced tea, but I won't defend d20. I got nothin' nice to say about d20 really.

I have nothing ice to say about d20 or tea.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:38

Serf: May 5, 2011

https://twitter.com/dril/status/473706394009759744

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:38

Haystack: Jan 23, 2005

I'm a two thirds coffee one thirds red tea sort of man, with a nice melty marshmallow floating in it.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:44

Waffleman_: Jan 20, 2011; I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I don't like tea period.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:45

Rockopolis: Dec 21, 2012; I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird

Yerba Mate sweetened with the blood of capitalists.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:49

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

Tea is for Anglos and Argies.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:55

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Hot chocolate

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:56

Evil Mastermind: Apr 28, 2008

gradenko_2000 posted:

That's like the d20 of teas. You are seriously missing out! Try different ones!

TG Chat Thread: You drink tea and don't like iced?

# ? Jun 12, 2017 17:59

Cease to Hope: Dec 12, 2011

so we jumped up on the table and we shouted anarchy

# ? Jun 12, 2017 18:03

Anniversary: Sep 12, 2011; I AM A SHIT-FESTIVAL

Rockopolis posted:

Yerba Mate sweetened with the blood of capitalists.

Mate straight up goes down easy.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 18:15

Garl_Grimm: Apr 13, 2005

Cease to Hope posted:

so we jumped up on the table and we shouted anarchy

And someone played a Beach Boys song on the jukebox

# ? Jun 12, 2017 18:28

Helical Nightmares: Apr 30, 2009

Evil Mastermind posted:

TG Chat Thread: You drink tea and don't like iced?

TG Chat Thread: Tea and Baggins'

# ? Jun 12, 2017 18:29

Rip_Van_Winkle: Jul 21, 2011; "When life gives you ghosts, you make ghost-robots"

I think this is a philosophy we can all aspire to.

Rockopolis posted:

Yerba Mate sweetened with the blood of capitalists.

Mate but served in the traditional way, out of a gourd, with your friends.

Not bein pretentious, poo poo's amazing

# ? Jun 12, 2017 18:33

Anniversary: Sep 12, 2011; I AM A SHIT-FESTIVAL

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

Mate but served in the traditional way, out of a gourd, with your friends.

Having done zero research into this. Does anyone know how easy it is to get a gourd / straw / loose Mate in the US?

Yerba Mate served like any other tea just isn't the same.

e: Or rather, does anyone know of a quality gourd / bombilla source? Seeing lots of mixed results.

Anniversary fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Jun 12, 2017

# ? Jun 12, 2017 18:36

My Lovely Horse: Aug 21, 2010

You guys get these teabags that claim to taste of blueberry pie or strawberry cheesecake, or is that a German thing? Cause showing up to the tea ceremony with those would have to be, I don't even know, would you even still allow a roll?

# ? Jun 12, 2017 18:43

slap me and kiss me: Apr 1, 2008; You best protect ya neck

After two solid months of work, I've just launched Let Thrones Beware's playtest 005.

Cool new updates:

Ability scores are dead and its rotting corpse has been totally excised from the game
Desperation, an escalation style mechanic that encourages the tactical combat to end quickly rather than drag on for hours
A new team-based initiative system based on collectively bidding powers rather than roll+stat
Rewritten adversaries with rudimentary built-in Desperation-based AI and an evolving power set

You might want to take a look at this if...

... you enjoy tactical combat, but dislike having nothing to do in between taking your turns;
... you want a mechanically interesting non-combat resolution system;
... you enjoy gradated success in modern games like Fate and Dungeon World, but want a tactical component to your gameplay;
... you like the character building of D&D 4e, but dislike the item treadmill and fiddly feat choices; and
... you like the simplicity of D&D 5e's advantages and disadvantages ... but 5e

Download the GM content for Playtest Packet 005
Download the Player content for Playtest Packet 005

slap me and kiss me fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jun 12, 2017

# ? Jun 12, 2017 18:47

Alien Rope Burn: Dec 5, 2004; _{I wanna be a saikyo HERO!}

Garl_Grimm posted:

And someone played a Beach Boys song on the jukebox

It was California dreamin
So we started screamin
On such a winter's day

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

Mate but served in the traditional way, out of a gourd, with your friends.

Not bein pretentious, poo poo's amazing

Mate gave me such a bad allergic reaction I could barely breathe after two in one day. One of the worst days in my life.

Sucked so much.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 18:50

LuiCypher: Apr 24, 2010; Today I'm... amped up!

Alien Rope Burn posted:

I'll have whatever kind of tea annoys purists. Sweet tea with lemon, maybe.

When I lived in Japan I was addicted to Gogo no Kocha's Lemon Tea. That stuff is flat-out amazing and I am so sad that I can never get anything like it in America unless I try to recreate it personally.

What I'm saying is - I don't shame on love for lemon tea.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 19:07

NorgLyle: Sep 20, 2002; Do you think I posted to this forum because I value your companionship?

Yawgmoth posted:

They're also the most iconic example of ability bloat; so many really high-level encounters have so many loving abilities that even knowing them all and what they do is a task unto itself; being able to use any significant part of them in a fight requires either an all-day combat or throwing multiples at your players. It's weird and slightly annoying, like why have a few flavorful abilities when you can have a list of 15 spell-likes? I generally just pluck ~3 interesting abilities out of the list and put them on my spreadsheet for quick access, then maybe list the rest in a single cell just in case.

Dragons are another terrible offender. I don't think I've ever given a dragon its spell list; it's usually just a couple buff spells (e.g. resist energy [type they're vulnerable to], maybe a buff to dexterity and/or a deflection bonus to AC, that sort of thing) and if asked the rest are noncombat spells. It's a smug flying battleship, why would it use magic to fight?

Yeah, I've never exactly understood how, in post-2E D&D anyway (after the point that people actually had begun to think about game design) you'd end up with things like

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At will�alter self, deeper dark- ness, desecrate, fear (DC 18), gaseous form, invisibility, 
prying eyes, ray of enfeeblement (+22 ranged touch), ray of exhaustion (+22 ranged touch), 
scorching ray (+22 ranged touch), scrying, see in- visibility, suggestion (DC 18), wall of fire;
3/day�binding(DC 23), enervation (+22 ranged touch), geas/quest (DC 21),
mass suggestion (DC 21);1/ day�symbol of death (DC 22).

Dragons as powerful spellcasters with a giant laundry list of per day tricks is a weakness that comes from the whole idea of the Monster Manual. I have a hard time thinking of any legends where the hero fights four different dragons in separate individual tales. It's not like the storytellers were sitting around telling eye-rolling teenage peasants 'no, no... last time I told you the story of Hercules fighting a dragon it was a blue dragon but the one in this story is a red dragon so it's a lot scarier and more dangerous so listen close!' Dragons in the fiction that inspired D&D were all like unique special individual things so you might get a story where a dragon, in addition to all of its usual dragon-ness also wove a magical song that enchanted the listener and it was exciting and special and cool.00 Unfortunately when you start hard coding the features of 'generic' dragons into a book of stats you end up with the laundry list of '1/day - Flaming Arrows' or whatever.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 19:08

Moriatti: Apr 21, 2014

So I'm aware of Die, Vecna, Die! and The Apocalypse Stone, but are there any other modules that are written as a canonical end to an edition?

# ? Jun 12, 2017 19:11

Haystack: Jan 23, 2005

Didn't Deadlands have a really godawful one?

# ? Jun 12, 2017 19:13

Evil Mastermind: Apr 28, 2008

Not D&D, but System Failure was designed to be the end of 3rd edition Shadowrun. It tied up some threads that ran through the edition and destroyed the old direct-connection Matrix to make way for 4e's wireless Matrix.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 19:13

Len: Jan 21, 2008; Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!

Old World of Darkness had a ton of end times books didn't it?

# ? Jun 12, 2017 19:19

Rip_Van_Winkle: Jul 21, 2011; "When life gives you ghosts, you make ghost-robots"

I think this is a philosophy we can all aspire to.

Anniversary posted:

Having done zero research into this. Does anyone know how easy it is to get a gourd / straw / loose Mate in the US?

Yerba Mate served like any other tea just isn't the same.

e: Or rather, does anyone know of a quality gourd / bombilla source? Seeing lots of mixed results.

The mate itself, most trader joes/fresh thyme/coop places will sell mate in big ol bags.

As for the gourds, can't help much there, at least not outside of going by amazon reviews and googling stuff that anybody can do. I've got two mate sets, one I don't remember where from but it's a simple wooden gourd/bombilla thing, and then one red metal set that my family's owned since 1993. So, haven't been shopping for any in a long time. I have no experience with the silicone ones so I can't say whether they're good or not.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 19:19

The Lore Bear: Jan 21, 2014; I don't know what to put here. Guys? GUYS?!

Haystack posted:

Didn't Deadlands have a really godawful one?

I believe Deadlands had multiple really bad ones: The one for Deadlands proper and the one for Hell on Earth. It's possible the Lost Colony one also had a terrible end to the metaplot of that game.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 19:19

Evil Mastermind: Apr 28, 2008

Haystack posted:

Didn't Deadlands have a really godawful one?

Oh lord yes. One of the worst adventures ever written.

thelazyblank posted:

I believe Deadlands had multiple really bad ones: The one for Deadlands proper and the one for Hell on Earth. It's possible the Lost Colony one also had a terrible end to the metaplot of that game.

Believe it or not, Lost Colony didn't have an ending. Deadlands Classic and HoE did, but LC just stopped after one supplement.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 19:23

Helical Nightmares: Apr 30, 2009

Len posted:

Old World of Darkness had a ton of end times books didn't it?

The Wraith line ended with Ends of Empire. This was way before White Wolf published their Time of Judgement series, which was and ending for all of their main lines (Vampire, Werewolf, Mage, Changeling, Hunter, Demon, Mummy, and Kindred of the East).

http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Time_of_Judgment

The Orpheus Series was designed to end with six books iirc. A sort of Wraith rebooted.

Helical Nightmares fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jun 12, 2017

# ? Jun 12, 2017 19:46

Reene: Aug 26, 2005

I am late to teachat but if you're not drinking straight zavarka and vibrating into six new dimensions before your heart stops I don't know what you're doing with your life

# ? Jun 12, 2017 20:41

Arivia: Mar 17, 2011

Moriatti posted:

So I'm aware of Die, Vecna, Die! and The Apocalypse Stone, but are there any other modules that are written as a canonical end to an edition?

The Avatar trilogy for 1e Realms. The Cormyr/Shadowdale/Anauroch trilogy for the 3e Realms.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 20:45

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Scyther posted:

Teaching kids indie RPGs before they get the chance to play D&D seems like a powerful technique.

I came to RPGs in a kind of weird way. The first RPG property I played was AD&D: Pool of Radiance. Not even the PC game, but the NES port! Some of the mechanics are in the manual and the text of the game, and I understood them but they are unintuitive as hell. Because I was a stupid kid, I bought the AD&D Book of Artifacts thinking that would be useful somehow. The rules contained therein made me resolve to never, ever play D&D. Some time later I started reading Shadowrun novels. The first RPGs I owned were Street Fighter and Vampire 2e, but I think the first one I actually got to play was Shadowrun 2e. Welp, that's my story.

Brother Entropy posted:

^^^ dungeon world definitely needs a 2nd edition to fix its issues if it's gonna stand along the great pbta games that have been made since it first came out

What are the best PbtA games besides Monsterhearts, one of the greatest games ever?

Evil Mastermind posted:

[*]The setting takes place a century after a galaxy-wide war wipes out the progenitor race (who were killed off by their own creation). The remaining races are crawling out of the rubble and trying to rebuild. In some cases, this means creating their own cultures from scratch because they were designed to do nothing but fight.
[*]The races that were designed solely to fight each other have chosen to not keep fighting on behalf of the dead race that created them or the being that abandoned them, and in a total gently caress YOU DAD moment are working together(ish) for survival.

Fragged Empire does the "the world is rising from the ashes of a Great War..." thing better than pretty much any game, ever, despite that being the oldest trope in campaign setting design.

inklesspen posted:

nah, we don't have nsfw warnings. we have "this content is literally terrible poo poo written by horrible people" warnings though.

Hey, I censored all the tentacle porn victim tits in Carcosa with emoticons. What more do you want?

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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

The mate itself, most trader joes/fresh thyme/coop places will sell mate in big ol bags.

As for the gourds, can't help much there, at least not outside of going by amazon reviews and googling stuff that anybody can do. I've got two mate sets, one I don't remember where from but it's a simple wooden gourd/bombilla thing, and then one red metal set that my family's owned since 1993. So, haven't been shopping for any in a long time. I have no experience with the silicone ones so I can't say whether they're good or not.

Fair enough, thanks for the info. (To continue the derail: how do you like metal compared to gourd? If you have PMs feel free to just PM.)

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Mate gave me such a bad allergic reaction I could barely breathe after two in one day. One of the worst days in my life.

Sucked so much.

slap me and kiss me posted:

Download the GM content for Playtest Packet 005
Download the Player content for Playtest Packet 005

Looking into this. I found the previous editions a little difficult to follow so not sure if I'll be able to provide any worthwhile feedback.

# ? Jun 12, 2017 21:43

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