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The_Rob posted:I think Cody has had some pretty drat good matches and all he needs is someone like Okada to bring a great match out of him. I think a lot of people could have a great match with Okada without being anything special themselves though.
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Jun 12, 2017 05:30
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Cody's main problem is that his wrestling name is Cody.
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Jun 12, 2017 05:38
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So many great parts to the match last night, but my favorite subtle bit is in the post match where Okada looks beaten and unexcited. When the gold confetti goes off he lies in the ring, celebrating nothing.
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Jun 12, 2017 06:33
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Is that the actual bracket? If so, holy poo poo, Kenny v Naito in the semis and Juice almost certainly going to the finals, that's dope. On the other hand, I find it really hard to believe they would put Juice over either of those guys, yet also really hard to believe they would put the US belt on either of them when putting it on Juice would make a ton of sense.
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i wouldn't be so sure that Kenny is beating Elgin
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If Kenny has a trios match, he's not winning his first round match.
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ROH's new Champ losing to New Japan's Champion on US soil will make me so happy. Jubs posted:If Kenny has a trios match, he's not winning his first round match. Hmmm
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Cody "3*" Rhodes
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G1 US cards US title tournament single elimination. First round: Lethal/Hangman Page, Juice/ZSJ, Ishii/Naito, Elgin/Omega Semifinals/finals on Night 2 Okada/Cody main events Night 1, Night 2 will be Tana's first IC title defense against Billy Gunn Tag title rematches: Night 1 is GOD/War Machine, Night 2 Young Bucks/RPG Vice Kizuna Road shows happening before G1 US. These smaller shows (that'll set up the G1) will all be on New Japan World sans English commentary. First show will reveal G1 participants, second will reveal blocks, third will reveal matchups. Title matches on all 3 shows: June 20: LIJ defend NEVER trios titles against Taguchi, Juice, and KUSHIDA June 26: Suzuki defends NEVER title against YOSHI-HASHI June 27: KUSHIDA defends IWGP Jr title against BUSHI
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Jun 12, 2017 13:52
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After watching Okada-Omega II i still think the first one was better but that was magnificent. All the shout outs to the first match were great but i preferred Omega in the first match using EVERYONES finisher and the kitchen sink. Its purely aesthetics there vs this matches story of v triggers v dropkicks. My main nitpick that took me out was that Omega by the end had taken five rainmakers and i'm conditioned to view it as a one hit KO (or at worst three). By the third rainmaker i said to myself "by wrestling law Omega should be clinically dead." Towards the end i was shouting PIN HIM HE IS DEAD. The protection of the One Winged Angel was brilliant.
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http://www.f4wonline.com/wrestling-observer-radio/wor-new-japan-dominion-okada-vs-omega-long-beach-matches-tons-more-237131quote:Dave says that if Cody won after Kenny couldn't do it, it could be a wonderful story, as he "took Kenny's win". Please stop trying to make Cody a thing...
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The short arm clothesline isn't a Rainmaker unless he spins them, is it? I thought it was only a death sentence if he spins them.
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No spin Rain Maker only makes you mostly dead.
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Sanguinia posted:Is that the actual bracket? If so, holy poo poo, Kenny v Naito in the semis and Juice almost certainly going to the finals, that's dope. On the other hand, I find it really hard to believe they would put Juice over either of those guys, yet also really hard to believe they would put the US belt on either of them when putting it on Juice would make a ton of sense. I could see Kenny and/or Naito losing their quarterfinal matches. It seems like NJPW doesn't want to give any really big matches away on this show, and they can get their wins back during G-1. Juice beating Naito in the finals would be a great payoff to their spring feud, though. Also, Billy Gunn in a NJPW main event is hilarious to me.
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Food Court Druid posted:Also, Billy Gunn in a NJPW main event is hilarious to me. "Okada got a four star match out of Bad Luck Fale" "Hold my beer"
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Food Court Druid posted:I could see Kenny and/or Naito losing their quarterfinal matches. It seems like NJPW doesn't want to give any really big matches away on this show, and they can get their wins back during G-1. Juice beating Naito in the finals would be a great payoff to their spring feud, though. I'm assuming the US title match is the main event of Day 2.
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Baron Corbyn posted:I'm assuming the US title match is the main event of Day 2. I'd assume semi-main since the IC is like a half-step behind the IWGP title and so it generally tops one of the cards during two-day events.
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The Cameo posted:I'd assume semi-main since the IC is like a half-step behind the IWGP title and so it generally tops one of the cards during two-day events. yeah, but usually those matches don't have Billy Gunn in them and these shows are being booked around the tournament.
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Jun 12, 2017 17:31
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I can't get over the Kenny collapsing spot to dodge the Rainmaker. SO unbelievably good.
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YourHumbleMessiah posted:I can't get over the Kenny collapsing spot to dodge the Rainmaker. SO unbelievably good. I also thought about how good it was that the one time Kenny is able to hit the one winged angel and it was just too close to the ropes. That was so cool.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:44
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Lid posted:After watching Okada-Omega II i still think the first one was better but that was magnificent. All the shout outs to the first match were great but i preferred Omega in the first match using EVERYONES finisher and the kitchen sink. Its purely aesthetics there vs this matches story of v triggers v dropkicks. It takes like 3 Rainmakers to put away every challenger these days.
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MassRafTer posted:It takes like 3 Rainmakers to put away every challenger these days. there was some maybe-overly-marky blog post I kinda liked that basically was like "the day Okada loses is the day he lets go of the wrist, because the whole point isn't the Rainmaker itself, it's his ability to do them repeatedly"
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Jun 12, 2017 19:48
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I just can't get into any 60 minute draws. I can acknowledge, holy gently caress that was an incredible display of the sport and also feel sort of underwhelmed. There's long-term storytelling and then there's just kind of delaying things for the sake of it. That said if any feud deserves to be extended, it's Okada/Omega.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I just can't get into any 60 minute draws. I can acknowledge, holy gently caress that was an incredible display of the sport and also feel sort of underwhelmed. There's long-term storytelling and then there's just kind of delaying things for the sake of it. That said if any feud deserves to be extended, it's Okada/Omega. Did you know the result before you watched it? I think that makes a huge difference.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Did you know the result before you watched it? I think that makes a huge difference. Granted, I did. Heard about it before I watched it. That said, they telegraphed it to gently caress with the dropkick staggers in the last few minutes. Even watching it live I'd have known they were gonna do the draw by about three minutes left.
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Yeah, admittedly around the time they were openly saying "x minutes left" it was pretty clear where it was going
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Chris James 2 posted:Yeah, admittedly around the time they were openly saying "x minutes left" it was pretty clear where it was going They always say that though.
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i watched it live and with 30 seconds remaining, i still thought omega was going to win for sure. but i'm an optimist. kushida/takahashi 1 was my moty before but watching kenny/omega 2 was one of my favorite wrestling experiences in years. as someone who is planning on going, the announced stuff for g1 in long beach really bums me out.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Granted, I did. Heard about it before I watched it. That said, they telegraphed it to gently caress with the dropkick staggers in the last few minutes. Even watching it live I'd have known they were gonna do the draw by about three minutes left. If you didn't know they were going to do a draw until 57 minutes in a 60 minute match that is pretty impressive on their part. I went in assuming draw, then when the Bullet Club came out had my mind changed, then around 50 I assumed draw again. Not sure why knowing a draw is happening is any different than knowing a guy is going to win. In the end the story is still has a great arc and to me felt satisfying at the end. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Taichi is working the AJPW Sumo Hall show and Kitamura and Oka are working the next AJPW rookie show against Akiyama and Omori. People are wondering if there might be an AJPW guy in the G1 but while it's possible i'm kind of skeptical. It's probably leading to Nagata/Nakanishi vs. Akiyama/Omori on AJPW's October Yokohama show to celebrate all their 25th years in wrestling. Who knows what more may come of the relationship in future.
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I knew how it ended and I still bit on that loving One-Winged Angel, drat. That dropkick from Okada on the floor with Kenny going into the barrier, too, gently caress. And that last Rainmaker was loving death. Wrestling! It's good. I don't know why I listened to the English broadcast though, man, Kelly and Corino are the loving worrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrst.
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I was positive it was gonna be a draw before the match started, I can spot a finisher-near-the-ropes spot from a mile away, I said to myself "Kenny, you're too close to the ropes." when he had him up and I bit so loving hard anyway. I guess that means they built up his finisher pretty good? This was my first Omega match and when he hit it I thought Okada was just loving dead.
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one winged angel is supposed to be instakill, yeah. which is good because otherwise its such a convoluted setup it'd be absurd to not be a super move. I was lucky and kept myself from spoilers for Omega okada, tanahashi naito, and Takahashi kushida. my sweet sweet perfect boy ticking time bomb was unjustly robbed by the thug kushida. I totally thought okada was gonna beat the time limit on that last rainmaker too.
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Jun 12, 2017 22:13
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I liked KUSHIDA/Takahashi more than Omega/Okada.
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Deathlove posted:
Corino has been with WWE since after WK. But yeah English commentary is terrible. Like it threatens to be good at points, but then it reverts to jokes Jerry Lawler stopped doing 2 decades ago
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Thrifting Day! posted:Corino has been with WWE since after WK. Yeah, I meant Callis, I just keep writing Corino. Gimme Striker over Callis, drat.
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Deathlove posted:Yeah, I meant Callis, I just keep writing Corino. Gimme Striker over Callis, drat. No
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