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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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BigHandsVince posted:Indeed, everything's a little backward but it suits me. Yeah I'm still adjusting to the six-toed cannibals since I moved over. Still, the rent is cheaper! 
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Can't wait for her to bitch and moan and complain again at the first sight of a single lost council seat that 'Corbyn is unelectable'.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:31
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Gerry Adams says Tory-DUP deal 'not in the best interests of Ireland' but 'positive' that people are being educated about the DUP Something tells me Gerry Adams is enjoying this quite a bit
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Jun 12, 2017 20:32
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I'm so glad that the Tories have managed to gently caress up the election and manifesto so badly that it's going to be the new cultural touchpoint as the nastiest suicide note in history with the hilarious kicker that they're technically in power but won't actually be able to do most of it if they even wanted to.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:33
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Do party defections ever happen? I seem to remember a Tory defecting to UKIP. Would a Tory --> Labour or Tory --> Lib Dem defection be inconceivable if someone felt they shackled their cart to the wrong horse?
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Jun 12, 2017 20:33
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Acaila posted:Yeah I'm still adjusting to the six-toed cannibals since I moved over. Still, the rent is cheaper! Yeah, I like the cheapness, the amazing views from my new place, and not being a million miles away from Edinburgh. Best move so far.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:35
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Yes. Churchill famously changed parties twice, and there have been numerous more recent examples. Wikipedia as always obliges. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_politicians_who_have_crossed_the_floor Looking at that list, it's actually even more common than I had thought. Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 20:37
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Halisnacks posted:Do party defections ever happen? I seem to remember a Tory defecting to UKIP. Theoretically it's possible and did happen more commonly before the party system became more rigid. It's probably electoral suicide though unless you're in the perfect situation of a) having a slim majority and go to the second place party and b) have confidence that the second parties support would accept you. Much more likely is to see someone become a rebel and just vote against the whip or an independent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_politicians_who_have_crossed_the_floor Quentin Davies is the last MP to go from Conservative to Labour. He lost his seat in the next election.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:39
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Captain Fargle posted:I have a very hard time believing enough Tories will defect to get a 2/3rds majority. Or 50%+1 to pass a vote of no-confidence and keep down a vote of confidence. Or 50%+1 to vote down a Money Bill and trigger a colossal constitutional crisis (because they somehow missed that possibility when hurriedly drafting the bill) Or 50%+1 to repeal FTPA - an actual pledge that May made before the election (although it never made it into the manifesto)
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Jun 12, 2017 20:39
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Fans posted:The New Statesman podcast for me is the best UK one I've found. Both the hosts are pretty great and their reaction to the latest election was great too. Seconding this. They're both so giddy about the result, it's fun.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:39
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I'm the part where she declares that the most important thing is that nobody mentions how dead wrong she and her ilk was.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:40
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dispatch_async posted:Here's the DUP version of kustomkarkommando's fanfic: I look forward to the formation of government being delayed indefinitely after getting stuck in a procedural infinite loop.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:42
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Halisnacks posted:Do party defections ever happen? I doubt we will see anyone go Tory-Labour just at the moment.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:42
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The last person to manage to have anything remotely like a career after crossing the floor from one of the major parties to the other was Shaun Woodward, who went from Tory to Labour, and the only reason he did was because he was parachuted into a safe seat at the next election.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:44
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BigHandsVince posted:I need to apologise to Forkboy, he forced me to reconsider my options for this election. I ended up voting for the Labour candidate because of Corbyn, even though the odds were like 6:1 of her winning. I'm just jealous you had a Labour candidate worth voting for.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:47
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ThomasPaine posted:There are more than ten Catholic/lgbt Tories This is the kind of insane sectarian poo poo Jacob Rees-Mogg lives for. He may have some unusual allies this time around, though.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:48
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Cerebral Bore posted:Tories seem to be getting real desperate. I don't really think that they're going to be able to sell a PM who has obviously lost all authority to the public even if they try to act all loyal. Remove Tories and this could have been applicable to Corbyn a few weeks ago
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Jun 12, 2017 20:51
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TACD posted:So, if this is correct, what happens if the Queen's Speech gets voted down? Does it trigger a specific confidence vote before Labour get a go? Oh yeah, that's another glaring hole in that ridiculous loving law - voting down the Queen's Speech is no longer an automatic vote of no-confidence so it would then have to go to one, so a fairly small number of MPs could trap the chamber in legislative hysteresis by voting against both.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:51
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Looke posted:Remove Tories and this could have been applicable to Corbyn a few weeks ago Corbyn never lost the public. The media just said he did.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:53
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Looke posted:Remove Tories and this could have been applicable to Corbyn a few weeks ago Corbyn was never PM. A precarious situation with an unruly backbench is a whole lot more toxic when you're trying to hold on to a paper-thin majority with a questionable alliance with religious extremists. Also what he said ^
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Jun 12, 2017 20:54
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I subbed to the new statesmen podcast fans. They are great and I really enjoyed election ep. Are there any other political casts that are cool?
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Jun 12, 2017 20:54
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Looke posted:Remove Tories and this could have been applicable to Corbyn a few weeks ago Not really, Corbyn did his own selling in spite of much of his party. E: wooo gang tag.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:55
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Yeah I know, I'm just saying don't count them out lol They said Corbyn was unelectable, that even with his MP's pretending to be behind him the damage was already done and look how that turned out
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Jun 12, 2017 20:55
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Looke posted:Remove Tories and this could have been applicable to Corbyn a few weeks ago Regarde Aduck posted:Corbyn never lost the public. The media just said he did. All May has to do is reveal a hitherto unseen warm and unaffected side and argue for policies that are deeply popular with sections of the electorate previously discounted by pollsters. I'm worried now guys 
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Jun 12, 2017 20:56
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I enjoyed this tweet https://twitter.com/NyeBeverage/status/874281994120835072
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Jun 12, 2017 20:57
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Someone defected at the last election from the SNP to the Scottish Greens in the Scottish Parliament and kept a seat, but then we have a voting system that doesn't totally blow chunks so
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Jun 12, 2017 20:57
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If you don't find this endearing and electable then SMH
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Jun 12, 2017 20:57
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TACD posted:So, if this is correct, what happens if the Queen's Speech gets voted down? Does it trigger a specific confidence vote before Labour get a go? If May's Queen's Speech doesn't get passed then Corbyn has a go, and if his doesn't get passed either we have another election.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:59
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I don't know which of you caught Frankie Boyle's new BBC show / election special, but it was magic, especially the bit at the end about Paul Nuttal's magic-realist dad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMRWUu9WvyM
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Jun 12, 2017 21:00
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Oh yeah, that's another glaring hole in that ridiculous loving law - voting down the Queen's Speech is no longer an automatic vote of no-confidence so it would then have to go to one, so a fairly small number of MPs could trap the chamber in legislative hysteresis by voting against both. *hurriedly dials Sinn Fein* hey I know you guys like not taking your seats but listen, you know what would be hilarious
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Jun 12, 2017 21:00
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Oh wow, Jess Philips did something cool & good: https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/874339938367680512 E: loving LOL: https://twitter.com/Stewart4Pboro/status/874295448923779072
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Jun 12, 2017 21:01
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Angepain posted:*hurriedly dials Sinn Fein* hey I know you guys like not taking your seats but listen, you know what would be hilarious Also, you'll never believe what a oval office your son is.
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Jun 12, 2017 21:01
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forkboy84 posted:I'm just jealous you had a Labour candidate worth voting for. I'm still very annoyed my option was Blair McDougall, couldn't stomach it in the end.
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Jun 12, 2017 21:05
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Uhhhhhh, this guy appears to be melting down quite hard https://twitter.com/Stewart4Pboro/status/874304374998265856
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Jun 12, 2017 21:06
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TheRat posted:Uhhhhhh, this guy appears to be melting down quite hard Whatever you do don't point out that he just lost his seat and is hardly in a position to be calling out anybody else's lack of popularity.
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Jun 12, 2017 21:07
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Japanese cartoonist Masaaki Sato has May warning Japan’s prime minister, Shinzo Abe, not to delay an election too long. I would watch this show.
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Jun 12, 2017 21:08
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Jippa posted:I subbed to the new statesmen podcast fans. They are great and I really enjoyed election ep. Are there any other political casts that are cool? Any Questions? is Question Time for the radio with a lot of what makes Question Time poo poo (The crowd and panel playing for the cameras, jeering, applause) toned down a lot and far more listenable for me. It still has Tories on it who say stuff that will make you hate. The Private Eye podcast (Page 94) is worth going through the backlogs because a lot of them are deep dives into obscure political topics like licensing laws or how Trident ACTUALLY works. Talking Politics is the more serious UK political podcast and if you're in for that it's good. It can be a little dry sometimes, but I've enjoyed it. The best of James O'Brien is good if you can stand James O'Brien. He bounces between enjoyable and annoying to me, he's a bit too eager to argue just for the sake of it on the radio but occasionally he hits on something good. The podcast is better than listening to the Radio for me because it's an occasional roundup of the good stuff with a lot of the stupid poo poo cut out. The British History podcast isn't a political podcast exactly but it is a good listen. Beyond that there's a thin amount of UK podcasts. The US are the ones spoiled for choice. Over there I'd recommend Common Sense for a weird lefty with a mix of good and bad ideas that are at least interesting. Pod Save America for a weekly update on American Politics and how Trump is a gently caress up, it's ran by former Obama Staffers so they're pretty knowledgable about just how bad Trump is loving up the White House and where he's obviously lying. Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill is good for some very obviously bitter Democrats doing a deep dive into something America related. A special mention for the US one for the Five Thirty Eight podcast, which is mainly focused on Polling and has done some recent stuff on why the UK polls are just a bit poo poo and also why our polls were so wild (Spoilers: People were using some very 'unique' methods) Reveal is a very good investigative reporting podcast that's usually US focused but still very interesting. Their prison stuff was harrowing. Oh and if you're not listening to The Bugle you're missing the best British bullshit/political podcast of all time. I have a long drive to work! Podcasts help!
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Jun 12, 2017 21:12
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Time to revive the idea of a UKMT podcast.
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Jun 12, 2017 21:13
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namesake posted:Time to revive the idea of a UKMT podcast. I'll guest-host with Drunk Pissflaps.
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Jun 12, 2017 21:15
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I feel like you can probably just go down the WMC or something if you want to hear people say "tory cunts" over and over again.
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