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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Lol. I can already tell which ones of my "liberal" colleagues and friends will be Fox News republicans in 30 years. If "Fox news Republican" is still a thing in 30 years, then we're pretty much all screwed.
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Lol. I can already tell which ones of my "liberal" colleagues and friends will be Fox News republicans in 30 years. This. The professional world of engineering can be insanely alienating and you can end up thinking only of getting yours and fall into the "I can do it, why can't everyone pull themselves up by their bootstraps" trap.
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Jun 12, 2017 22:54
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I'd actually say I have more libertarian engineer friends than liberal ones.
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Jun 12, 2017 22:57
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Duckbag posted:If "Fox news Republican" is still a thing in 30 years, then we're pretty much all screwed. I keep reading articles about how millennials are killing applebees and bar soap, so I really got to hope that Fox News is on the chopping block some time before 2050.
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Skyscraper posted:I keep reading articles about how millennials are killing applebees and bar soap, so I really got to hope that Fox News is on the chopping block some time before 2050. Young people dont use soap anymore? 
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got any sevens posted:Young people dont use soap anymore? They use liquid soap more than the bar. *bar4life
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I get the feeling from most engineers I know that they would indulge in the worst sort of oppression if you gave them a scientifically plausible excuse for why certain groups of Others were untermenschen, like full on Buck v. Bell sterilization campaigns.
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Jun 13, 2017 01:36
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Burning_Monk posted:They use liquid soap more than the bar. Liquid soap just gets washed out of my hands too quickly in a shower to get a good lather over my body
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got any sevens posted:Liquid soap just gets washed out of my hands too quickly in a shower to get a good lather over my body Use a cloth or a plastic loofah.
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got any sevens posted:Liquid soap just gets washed out of my hands too quickly in a shower to get a good lather over my body Turn off the water, use a loofah.
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Admiral Ray posted:Use a cloth or a plastic loofah. Lol if you use anything other than dial soap (4 for 99 cents at the 99 cent store) and your own fingernails to scrape the filth from your body.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Lol if you use anything other than dial soap (4 for 99 cents at the 99 cent store) and your own fingernails to scrape the filth from your body. I usually just go outside and find some sand. It's an abrasive cleaner!
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Pretty sure "hygiene" is just a social construct perpetuated by the patriarchal capitalist globalist hegemony to rob women and poor people of agency over their own bodies. Using soap is morally equivalent to owning slaves imho.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:20
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Ron Jeremy posted:This. The professional world of engineering can be insanely alienating and you can end up thinking only of getting yours and fall into the "I can do it, why can't everyone pull themselves up by their bootstraps" trap. I'd argue that it begins in college.
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are the dems running anybody worthwhile in 48 anyways or is it too early or is it """""conventional wisdom"""" that nobody can unseat rohrabacher and they're not gonna try
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stone cold posted:are the dems running anybody worthwhile in 48 anyways or is it too early or is it """""conventional wisdom"""" that nobody can unseat rohrabacher and they're not gonna try There's already two Democratic candidates declared for that district.
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Forceholy posted:I'd argue that it begins in college. Yeah, Engineering and a lot of other STEM majors tend to have incredibly rigorous course loads and top ranked schools, in particular, treat hideously overworking their students as a point of pride. This doesn't leave much time for broadening of horizons, liberal education, a normal social life, or anything else that resembles the stereotypical "college experience" and tends to produce stunted, sleep-deprived Type A robots who've Stockholm'd themselves into thinking that that's the way life is supposed to be. My brother went to ~Harvey Mudd~ and I recall him horribly resenting the few general ed requirements he did have because that left less time to sleep and have a normal life. So he took random crap like "graphic novels as literature," "music appreciation," and "history of the crusades" (whatever seemed like an easy A or actually fit his schedule), and resented when they actually expected him to do real work. I don't think he actually got much out of any of them. He came back an entitled proto-libertarian rear end in a top hat expecting the world to recognize his hard work and give him his dream job on a silver plate, but a couple years of Great Recession job hunting straightened that out and he's since turned back into a normal person. I can only imagine how insufferable the engineers who did get great jobs right out of college must be.
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Burning_Monk posted:They use liquid soap more than the bar. You don't get soap scum in your tub if you use liquid soap instead of bar. Liquid4lyfe
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Gnossiennes posted:You don't get soap scum in your tub if you use liquid soap instead of bar. They made me use liquid in the navy fornjust this reason. gently caress that, bars for ever, hollywood showers for life.
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Duckbag posted:Yeah, Engineering and a lot of other STEM majors tend to have incredibly rigorous course loads and top ranked schools, in particular, treat hideously overworking their students as a point of pride. This doesn't leave much time for broadening of horizons, liberal education, a normal social life, or anything else that resembles the stereotypical "college experience" and tends to produce stunted, sleep-deprived Type A robots who've Stockholm'd themselves into thinking that that's the way life is supposed to be. My brother went to ~Harvey Mudd~ and I recall him horribly resenting the few general ed requirements he did have because that left less time to sleep and have a normal life. So he took random crap like "graphic novels as literature," "music appreciation," and "history of the crusades" (whatever seemed like an easy A or actually fit his schedule), and resented when they actually expected him to do real work. I don't think he actually got much out of any of them. He came back an entitled proto-libertarian rear end in a top hat expecting the world to recognize his hard work and give him his dream job on a silver plate, but a couple years of Great Recession job hunting straightened that out and he's since turned back into a normal person. I hated my GEs becuase they made me less able to fit the interesting classes outside of my major into my schedule. I still regret not getting to take History of California. Though some of my GEs were great, I had one that was about analyzing early detective and horror novels/movies. I got a good job out of college, but I understand how much my situation growing up helped me not be a complete fuckup until I was able to actually able to get my poo poo together.
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I took a 400 level history of California class because it checked a bunch of boxes for graduation. Ended up really enjoying it. I also really considered a history major until my adjunct professor begged me not to.
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Ron Jeremy posted:I took a 400 level history of California class because it checked a bunch of boxes for graduation. Ended up really enjoying it. I also really considered a history major until my adjunct professor begged me not to. your adjunct professor is a dick though it probably was the right call 
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Ron Jeremy posted:I took a 400 level history of California class because it checked a bunch of boxes for graduation. Ended up really enjoying it. I also really considered a history major until my adjunct professor begged me not to. same I also took a California Wildlife and Wildlands class that was super interesting and now when we've visiting national parks in CA with the kids I can point at cool poo poo and tell them what it is and why it's here 
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Ron Jeremy posted:They made me use liquid in the navy fornjust this reason. gently caress that, bars for ever, hollywood showers for life. So being in the Navy made you prefer to create more cleaning work for yourself? 
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SMDH if you aren't using pine tar soap like your grandfather before you and using sandpaper on a stick to get your back clean.
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The Glumslinger posted:I hated my GEs becuase they made me less able to fit the interesting classes outside of my major into my schedule. I still regret not getting to take History of California. I had several that were like that such as Art History over the summer which was a nice excuse to relax in dark air conditioned room blazed out of my mind watching ye olde slides of the instructor's euro/africa trips he took in the 60s but otherwise just had 1 paper and 1 final. That was a fun class even if it may be easy. For upper div GE requirements, I had American Pop Culture which was surprisingly difficult but interesting, and Globalzation as an upper-div Anthro that was mostly just watching movies like Lord of War and at least 2/3rds class was just on their laptops with facebook open which I thought was kind of disrespectful but I guess the instructor and TA never noticed or cared. I think I would have liked GE's more if college wasn't so loving expensive and I could spend another quarter or even two just taking more in-depth GE classes that were interesting without worrying about everything else instead of trying to cram as much in each quarter as I could to save money and get out asap. Xaris fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jaxyon posted:I'd actually say I have more libertarian engineer friends than liberal ones.
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I dunno, I used to think that, but lately I've been seeing the darker side of it, like the whole gimmick of 'Disruption' and the encouragement of a gig economy and many of the labor-unfriendly practices of the tech sector. Its one thing to get excited about piecework when it is augmenting an $80,000 wage, its another thing when the only available jobs to an unemployed person are 'piecework' that never gets them decent health benefits or steady hours. I had thought software engineers were more on the libertarian side; if you are a workaholic and feel like you are being directly rewarded your your talent/skill/effort, it becomes really easy to blame other people for 'not trying hard enough'. Upthread someone mentioned overhearing technbros whining that the Muni bus drivers make about what they make, as if that was somehow unreasonable. If they were so liberal, why would they care what someone else makes, vs maybe asking for a raise if they really think they deserve more?
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Panfilo posted:I dunno, I used to think that, but lately I've been seeing the darker side of it, like the whole gimmick of 'Disruption' and the encouragement of a gig economy and many of the labor-unfriendly practices of the tech sector. Its one thing to get excited about piecework when it is augmenting an $80,000 wage, its another thing when the only available jobs to an unemployed person are 'piecework' that never gets them decent health benefits or steady hours. Muni drivers "just drive in circles all day" and deal with poor people. They don't deserve the same benefits as degree-having tech ubermensch.
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FMguru posted:Exactly. California stands in direct opposition to the received right-wing wisdom about taxes and regulation and immigration and tolerance of diversity. A state full of married gay couples, high taxes, gun control laws, strict environmental regulations, Democrats running things at every level, sanctuary cities, renewable energy mandates, and taco trucks on every corner should, by their logic, be a collapsed Road Warrior wasteland. The fact that California is thriving, with a budget surplus and the creation of new Fortune 500 companies seemingly every single day is a direct challenge to the core tenets of conservative orthodoxy (especially compared to Republican laboratories of democracy like Kansas and Wisconsin). Sorry for the late reply to this post but is California actually a budget surplus? I thought the governor was saying it's a deficit and was gonna slash a bunch of spending earlier in the year, but I'm not super familiar with California and their situation.
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TrixR4kids posted:Sorry for the late reply to this post but is California actually a budget surplus? I thought the governor was saying it's a deficit and was gonna slash a bunch of spending earlier in the year, but I'm not super familiar with California and their situation. 
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TrixR4kids posted:Sorry for the late reply to this post but is California actually a budget surplus? I thought the governor was saying it's a deficit and was gonna slash a bunch of spending earlier in the year, but I'm not super familiar with California and their situation. Did you by chance hear this from someone who also called it a socialist Mad Max-style hellhole?
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TrixR4kids posted:Sorry for the late reply to this post but is California actually a budget surplus? I thought the governor was saying it's a deficit and was gonna slash a bunch of spending earlier in the year, but I'm not super familiar with California and their situation.  Jerry Brown was elected in 2010 and he managed to turn around the Schwarzenegger-era budget problems. This coming year is projected to have a small deficit according to Brown's budget his revenue projections are really conservative
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When are we going to get ourselves a sweet California
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CPColin posted:When are we going to get ourselves a sweet California about the same time trump refuses to leave office and we get the second civil war
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Raskolnikov38 posted:about the same time trump refuses to leave office and we get the second civil war Or he tells us to lay down and die and we get the second civil war. Which I actually wouldn't put past him and his cabinet these days.
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Instant Sunrise posted:
Gotcha, thanks for the replies guys.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:about the same time trump refuses to leave office and we get the second civil war People said this exact thing about Obama
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Cup Runneth Over posted:People said this exact thing about Obama Yeah, it's the same red vs blue rahowa crap, but it does make marginally more sense to think it might be the guys who love guns, God, and fascism what start it. Not much more sense though, mind you.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:People said this exact thing about Obama Except, Obama is a calm normal dude, and Trump is fundamentally unable to be wrong or lose at anything Not that it's likely, but it's quite a bit more believable under Trump.
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