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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
| Total: | 1817 votes | ||
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im the falling tax revenue caused by having an educated workforce e:441 seats won by the whigs in 1832 stomping all over the tory party's 175 clear eyes full farts fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Spangly A posted:they're about to lose the Brexit voters and the LGBT community and die a nasty spiteful death as a party did you know being an electrician isn't real work either?
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How many of these "universities just make people socialists and provide safe spaces" people have ever been to one?
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Red Oktober posted:I mean, where do you even start? Each and every point in that looks to be either wrong, or show a massive misunderstanding of economics. And all the comments are of 50+ year olds going "Well said", "Here here!", "Pity there aren't more sane people like you". 
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Jun 13, 2017 12:42
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Thanks Ants posted:How many of these "universities just make people socialists and provide safe spaces" people have ever been to one? My dad 
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Jun 13, 2017 12:42
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The DPRK posted:And all the comments are of 50+ year olds going "Well said", "Here here!", "Pity there aren't more sane people like you". you should tell them that they're dumb, and that it's "Hear, Hear!"
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Jun 13, 2017 12:44
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MikeCrotch posted:My dad Ask him why he's not a socialist then?
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You can't, like, own money, man. It belongs to the system. It is the system! Feed the magic money tree.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:you should tell them that they're dumb, and that it's "Hear, Hear!" Shame there ain't no link to the facebook page so we can say "Well Said" "Here here!" to the responce.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:46
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The DPRK posted:Tell me if you're getting bored of these. Just ask him why he hates Social Equality. It's even better if he's Christian, because they are supposed to love thy neighbour.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:49
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I'm getting genuinely disturbed at how many olds seem to think being the sole deciders of who holds the reins on the political system is their god-given right and that young people need to be disenfranchised and punished for voting "wrong".
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Thanks Ants posted:How many of these "universities just make people socialists and provide safe spaces" people have ever been to one? I teach at a university in a field that touches upon social and economic issues, and can confirm that socialist arguments are disproportionately accepted whereas conservative arguments tend to be firmly bebutted because that's what happens when you apply a degree of critical reasoning and examine the evidence e:seriously, how do people notice that educated people who spend their lives thinking about this poo poo disproportionately tend to disagree with them and jump to the conclusion that obviously they must all be biased. The DPRK posted:Tell me if you're getting bored of these. "You could apply the same slippery slope argument to literally any public spending. Should we not have an NHS, or schools? The problem is that you do run out of money if you don't invest in the economy and education and instead let all the wealth aggregate in a few hands where it does no good for anyone." <- shortest & most convincing answer I could come up with. Borrovan fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 12:51
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Fans, I too would like a Jam Tag. I'd PM but awful app innit
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Jun 13, 2017 12:51
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i hope they're filled with dread, i genuinely hope they now feel the precarity and despair they've happily shoveled onto us for the past 7 years
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Jun 13, 2017 12:52
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spectralent posted:I'm getting genuinely disturbed at how many youngs seem to think being the sole deciders of who holds the reins on the political system is their god-given right and that old people need to be disenfranchised and punished for voting "wrong". Everyone thinks they're right.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:52
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If the poors get more money then they'll only spend it, which means that it disappears from the economy entirely. And they'll all stop working, because only the rich are incentivized by more money, proles are content with Tennent's Super and a pittance from the Post Office.
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Had a chat with the Chief Exec (mid 60s) of the organisation I work at today who said that, after a lifetime of voting Conservative, he voted Labour for the first time. He said he was absolutely horrified by their manifesto and said Corbyn's appearance on Question Time convinced him he could be PM. Also I found out my Grandad voted Labour, which isn't a huge surprise as he's been a wavering Tory/Labour voter for a while. But he did also despise Corbyn up until a month ago and likes him now.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:54
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spectralent posted:I'm getting genuinely disturbed at how many olds seem to think being the sole deciders of who holds the reins on the political system is their god-given right and that young people need to be disenfranchised and punished for voting "wrong". It's the loss of the primacy that's really bothering them. You see this in various places, people going "well leftists were mean to me so if anything I'm MORE conservative now!" which is a legitimate threat when you're the only voting bloc that matters: as soon as there's a bloc with parity it becomes utterly meaningless. You're an older person, it's a given that you'll vote Conservative (and show up). People will stop chasing that now. This is part of what hosed May so bad.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:54
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Had a chat with the Chief Exec (mid 60s) of the organisation I work at today who said that, after a lifetime of voting Conservative, he voted Labour for the first time. He said he was absolutely horrified by their manifesto and said Corbyn's appearance on Question Time convinced him he could be PM. What a difference balanced air time makes.
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sassassin posted:Everyone thinks they're right. Correct.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:56
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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If we make the rich more rich then they will buy more yachts. Then the poor can all open yacht shops.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:56
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Regarde Aduck posted:If we make the rich more rich then they will buy more yachts. Then the poor can all open yacht shops. the horse and the sparrow, my friend
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Jun 13, 2017 12:56
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spectralent posted:I'm getting genuinely disturbed at how many olds seem to think being the sole deciders of who holds the reins on the political system is their god-given right and that young people need to be disenfranchised and punished for voting "wrong". To be fair there were youngs saying 'disenfranchise the pensioners!' before the election as well.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:56
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CoolCab posted:It's the loss of the primacy that's really bothering them. You see this in various places, people going "well leftists were mean to me so if anything I'm MORE conservative now!" which is a legitimate threat when you're the only voting bloc that matters: as soon as there's a bloc with parity it becomes utterly meaningless. You're an older person, it's a given that you'll vote Conservative (and show up). People will stop chasing that now. the amount of older conservatives on friends FB I've seen claim Labour are bad people because some yoofs were rude to them is genuinely astonishing. The idea that we need to give the slightest poo poo about their pride when they vote for people to die really makes it hard to feel sympathy for their fully deserved total political abandonment, and worse, hard to feel sympathy for the older people who aren't caricatures of hate.
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Tesseraction posted:What a difference balanced air time makes. Even then...
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Jun 13, 2017 12:58
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CoolCab posted:It's the loss of the primacy that's really bothering them. You see this in various places, people going "well leftists were mean to me so if anything I'm MORE conservative now!" which is a legitimate threat when you're the only voting bloc that matters: as soon as there's a bloc with parity it becomes utterly meaningless. You're an older person, it's a given that you'll vote Conservative (and show up). People will stop chasing that now. Yeah that's a big part of it. This is a generation which is used to having its voice heard on everything, and which has used its demographic power to bend the system to its will for decades. Now they're suddenly not the sole arbiters of What Just Makes Sense to do and they're furious about it.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:59
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Oh dear me posted:To be fair there were youngs saying 'disenfranchise the pensioners!' before the election as well. Well come on they voted for the worst campaign in British history and a Tory Manifesto that might as well have just read "we will make you eat poo poo until you choke to death" Not to say I agree with disenfranchising them but those fuckers vote with such goddamn malice.
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Jun 13, 2017 12:59
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WeAreTheRomans posted:the horse and the sparrow, my friend
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auld cunts are a land of contrasts imo and while the vote was clearly divided by age, i'd argue that stark delineation remains primarily a product of relative socioeconomic status don't turn it into a war of the generations when really it's still a class war in every way that counts
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Jun 13, 2017 13:00
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All warfare is class warfare.
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The DPRK posted:And all the comments are of 50+ year olds going "Well said", "Here here!", "Pity there aren't more sane people like you". Weird. This 50+ old's first thought was "Christ, you need a hard slap." I would apologise for my generation but like gently caress am I acknowledging any connection between them and me.
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Regarde Aduck posted:If we make the rich more rich then they will buy more yachts. Then the poor can ftfy e: The DPRK posted:"Here here!"
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Had a chat with the Chief Exec (mid 60s) of the organisation I work at today who said that, after a lifetime of voting Conservative, he voted Labour for the first time. He said he was absolutely horrified by their manifesto and said Corbyn's appearance on Question Time convinced him he could be PM. But my mate spoke to a chief executive and he said that it was bad for business and bad for britain?  Oh dear me posted:To be fair there were youngs saying 'disenfranchise the pensioners!' before the election as well. I wasn't seeing that showing up with universality on facebook and even appearing in national papers, though. Also context, someone who's traditionally not represented saying they hate a given system is venting. People with plenty of representation saying they hate it is alarming.
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spectralent posted:I'm getting genuinely disturbed at how many olds seem to think being the sole deciders of who holds the reins on the political system is their god-given right and that young people need to be disenfranchised and punished for voting "wrong". The winter shall be a cold one
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spectralent posted:Sadly, this is a real-life person who I actually have to talk to. Today I learnt I'm pushing a hard left socialist agenda when teaching FdSc Health studies. Also I teach Sociology at degree level - social inequality and globalisation. Despite giving equal airtime to right wing functionalist views most students come round to more left wing views. Odd that. haakman fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 13:04
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CoolCab posted:It's the loss of the primacy that's really bothering them. You see this in various places, people going "well leftists were mean to me so if anything I'm MORE conservative now!" which is a legitimate threat when you're the only voting bloc that matters: as soon as there's a bloc with parity it becomes utterly meaningless. You're an older person, it's a given that you'll vote Conservative (and show up). People will stop chasing that now. It's this. A lot of Boomers have coasted on the idea that they're right by default for so long that they've fogotten how to actually defend their opinions, hence they get super mad when proven wrong and retreat into condescension and denial. EDIT: And hey-o, gangtag.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Other: 68.58333333 nice
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Jun 13, 2017 13:05
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My 60+ y/o dad all but said he voted tory because he "couldn't bring himself to vote for Corbyn", for the most part because he thought Putin would love Corbyn winning. Not really sure what to make of that.
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Also about the only time I ever thought uni was overly-PC was the one time a lecturer got really mad at me for saying that HIV prevention and care was a gay issue. She kept insisting it was offensive because "anyone can get HIV".
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PST posted:That somehow looks less weird than the original. The original guy has a really hosed up weird looking face.
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