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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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spectralent posted:Also about the only time I ever thought uni was overly-PC was the one time a lecturer got really mad at me for saying that HIV prevention and care was a gay issue. She kept insisting it was offensive because "anyone can get HIV". hosed up if true.
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Bed chat: We have a 7ft square bed and it's the best thing we ever bought. Loads of space even if the kid climbs in too. All the benefits of bedsharing but with the ability to gently caress off to our own sides and sleep without unwanted touching. Has made house hunting slightly trickier though, not all staircases can deal with an enormo-mattress.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:09
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Guavanaut posted:If you spend all the money on a solarium for the horse, then the sparrow can use it too even though the sparrow doesn't want or need a solarium? Well yes, that too, but I meant more like quote:The economist John Kenneth Galbraith noted that "trickle-down economics" had been tried before in the United States in the 1890s under the name "horse and sparrow theory." He wrote, "Mr. David Stockman has said that supply-side economics was merely a cover for the trickle-down approach to economic policy—what an older and less elegant generation called the horse-and-sparrow theory: 'If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.'"
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Jun 13, 2017 13:09
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Firos posted:My 60+ y/o dad all but said he voted tory because he "couldn't bring himself to vote for Corbyn", for the most part because he thought Putin would love Corbyn winning. Not really sure what to make of that. Did he vote for brexit?
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Jun 13, 2017 13:11
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spectralent posted:Also about the only time I ever thought uni was overly-PC was the one time a lecturer got really mad at me for saying that HIV prevention and care was a gay issue. She kept insisting it was offensive because "anyone can get HIV". Uh... But they were correct?
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Jun 13, 2017 13:12
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Samovar posted:Uh... But they were correct? sounds like they both had a point and were both expressing it stupidly. Which is to be expected of students but a little more concerning from a lecturer
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Jun 13, 2017 13:13
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Party Boat posted:Did he vote for brexit? He voted against it. A large part of that, again, because he thought Brexit would be what Putin wanted. We used to go on holiday to europe a lot too, and as a result we both strongly consider ourselves Europeans 
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Jun 13, 2017 13:13
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The DPRK posted:Tell me if you're getting bored of these. England, 2029. As we prepare to enter the third glorious decade of Jam Socialism, many are concerned at the British Isles being largely covered by a still-increasing number of datacentres. Land prices have skyrocketed, severely threatening damson production and in turn the 60% GDP provided from jam exports. Unfortunately due to the reinvigorated NHS, baby boomer life expectancy is now projected well into the next century. Their relentless diatribes of anti-socialism Facebook posts continues day and night, sustained by universal basic income and free nationalised high-speed Internet access. Dozens of new datacentres open daily but still cannot support the tirade. In the end there can only be one result; an island left desolate as a monument to the dangers of socialism and containing more "I told you so" posts than stars in the night sky.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:13
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spectralent posted:Also about the only time I ever thought uni was overly-PC was the one time a lecturer got really mad at me for saying that HIV prevention and care was a gay issue. She kept insisting it was offensive because "anyone can get HIV". She's right and you're really dumb Edit: maybe half dumb depending on what stupid point you were trying to make Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 13:14
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Speaking of family and chatting with people. My family was historically Tory but then turned Labour or SNP at the somewhere between the 50/60s so I don't have to worry too much about them turning Tory anytime soon. Trying to keep my non-relative Aunt from being swayed by her posh brother. She voted for Corbyn because he was a nice man and seems human but then she started asking about the typical right-wing poo poo she's been spewed about money and poo poo from her Brother. Thankfully my mum did tell her a few things that made her think twice about a few things when she visited her. My other Aunt who is clueless about politics didn't vote because she was in a SNP/Labour constituency in Glasgow and wasn't sure but would of voted Corbyn. She really dosen't keep up with the current times I've noticed and is a bit 'dim' but she's very nice to people to the point she offered me a £20 for fuel so maybe she might vote in the next election if I pressure her. My Uncle who is a middle-class former banker turned Catholic is no doubt having a fit right now. Not sure who he votes for as he never really mentions it but his son is part of a union if I remember correctly plus he hates Thatcher so I imagine that he isn't Tory thankfully. My mum goes from Labour, SNP or Green and likes Corbyn a whole lot so no worries. I haven't had much interactions with Tories thankfully as one can tell.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:16
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Samovar posted:Uh... But they were correct? Yeah, but it's an issue that's disproportionately impactful on GLBT folks, primarily because of homophobic reasoning. I should stress I said that it's an issue the GLBT community's particularly concerned with, not that it's some magic gay-hating disease that only GLBT people are concerned with.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:17
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spectralent posted:Also about the only time I ever thought uni was overly-PC was the one time a lecturer got really mad at me for saying that HIV prevention and care was a gay issue. She kept insisting it was offensive because "anyone can get HIV". in the US, about 70% of HIV cases are gay men. 25% are straight; 5% are drug users. it is most definitely not just a gay issue and she was right to shut you down, if only because it's a really dangerous opinion
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Jun 13, 2017 13:17
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WeAreTheRomans posted:sounds like they both had a point and were both expressing it stupidly. Which is to be expected of students but a little more concerning from a lecturer Yeah, that's what I mean. Maybe I worded that really badly; she was saying that it wasn't something GLBT charities are concerned with because anyone can get it, and kept talking over me when I tried to mention stuff like the Terrence Higgins trust.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:19
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Butterfly Valley posted:She's right and you're really dumb HIV isn't a gay issue in the same way that social housing in America isn't a race issue (i.e., it is) e: coffeetable posted:if only because it's a really dangerous opinion http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...a-a7787441.html David Trimble to Sinn Fein: grow up and face to bloodshed
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Jun 13, 2017 13:19
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Extreme0 posted:Speaking of family and chatting with people. My family was historically Tory but then turned Labour or SNP at the somewhere between the 50/60s so I don't have to worry too much about them turning Tory anytime soon. Would have voted Corbyn.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:20
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HIV prevention and care is both a gay (and MSM and African and injecting user) issue and a public health issue. It's vital that those communities are at the heart of education and prevention with the support of public health services who are willing to listen to feedback. Saying that HIV is purely a gay issue is wrong, but so is using 'anyone can get HIV' as an excuse to ignore the input of the gay community in public health campaigns because 'it's a human issue', and health services have been guilty of both.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:21
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actually holy poo poo,quote:Of the 88,769 people accessing HIV treatment in the UK in 2015, 41,945 were men and women who had acquired HIV through heterosexual sex and 41,016 were men who had acquired HIV through homosexual sex.13 i just picked up the US stats because they were top on google and i thought they'd be similar. nooope. e: i mean as a fraction of the gay/straight communities it's still obv a much bigger risk factor for gay people than straight, but still
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Jun 13, 2017 13:22
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My mum doesn't like Corbyn but still voted Labour (and helped me deliver some Labour leaflets for the assembly and council elections). Dad didn't vote (last time he voted in a general election was 1997, voted Remain in the referendum), wasn't a Corbyn fan either, but cheerfully admitted he was wrong after being impressed by how well he did in the election/how well he got the youth vote out. Most of the older people I know vote Labour, but that's probably an artifact of where I live. Interesting to see something like 23% of over 65s voted Labour in the end, as opposed to the 10-odd% the polls predicted. Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 13:22
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Borrovan posted:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...a-a7787441.html As a nominal supporter of Irish nationalism, I would be quite happy for American influence in NI politics to be curtailed. I'd also like it if the UK wasn't forming a Unionist coalition though 
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Jun 13, 2017 13:24
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Borrovan posted:Fair point.
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coffeetable posted:i just picked up the US stats because they were top on google and i thought they'd be similar. nooope.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:24
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My parents didn't like Corbyn and I'm not sure how they voted but they seem to have changed their minds on him. Hopefully they're reflective of a larger trend among their generation.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:24
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Paul.Power posted:My mum doesn't like Corbyn but still voted Labour. I think we're from the same constituency (Swansea East?) and yeah, most people in general vote Labour around here.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:25
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Most of the older staff where I work voted Tory. I work in Education and the majority of staff teach health care related subjects....
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Jun 13, 2017 13:26
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coffeetable posted:actually holy poo poo, Terrence Higgins Trust also estimates 1/6 gay men are going to be diagnosed with HIV in their lives if current infection rates continue. It's absolutely right that GLBT charities are concerned with it and that there's as much diagnostic support and treatment available as is possible, specifically because it affects a minority community. Out of curiosity, what is the US rate like? I assume it's either really good or really bad. Basically failing on HIV care is failing the GLBT community which was where I was coming from in the comment I made and I was kind of surprised she didn't accept that because it was in epidemiology.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:26
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Baron Corbyn posted:I think we're from the same constituency (Swansea East?) and yeah, most people in general vote Labour around here. But yeah, don't give up on older generations, there are still still plenty of good lads in them. Heck, just look at a certain MP for Islington North  .
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Jun 13, 2017 13:30
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Most of my relatives are older and dedicated Tory voters. My aunt, who loves May, texted me on Friday saying "I can't believe what happened"  But I also attend a church where the congregation is mostly older, and I think there's a few Labour voters amongst them.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:32
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Borrovan posted:https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz...0k1.wQFPmyTC9HM My sister helps run one of the biggest sexual health organisations in this country I am aware of who it affects The way spectralent's original post was worded implied it was exclusively a gay issue but I can see that's not what they meant now
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Jun 13, 2017 13:32
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Paul.Power posted:Aye, Swansea East. My personal, 100% anecdotal experience is that after 80 olds become cool. It seems like living through WW2 gives you non-lovely opinions, somehow. I had way more "lively debates" with people in the 60-70 bracket than I did 80+, who were universally wonderful.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:33
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Butterfly Valley posted:My sister helps run one of the biggest sexual health organisations in this country I am aware of who it affects No worries, I can see where I fluffed up by omitting context so I kind of deserved it.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:35
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an angry penguin posted:Most of my relatives are older and dedicated Tory voters. My aunt, who loves May, texted me on Friday saying "I can't believe what happened" Soontm. 
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David Trimble. Hmmm, where do I recognise that name from? Ohhhhh, that's right, he's an Orange bellend notoriously seen walking hand in hand with Paisley, triumphantly down the Garvaghy Road after negotiations where residents were told if they let the march go by with no music this year they'd not have to put up with it next year. Shock horror, the Orange Order & the RUC lied! Utter fanny. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 13:36
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Extreme0 posted:Shame there ain't no link to the facebook page so we can say "Well Said" "Here here!" to the responce. Have at it. gently caress me, just dug a bit deeper and found this post from 2 days ago, same guy: quote:An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Corbyn's vision of socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equaliser. The DPRK fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 13:36
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spectralent posted:My personal, 100% anecdotal experience is that after 80 olds become cool. It seems like living through WW2 gives you non-lovely opinions, somehow. I had way more "lively debates" with people in the 60-70 bracket than I did 80+, who were universally wonderful. Harry Leslie Smith is a pretty good example. He's 94 and yet is still very politcally active social media. He recently made a podcast to record his experiences from the past and today for people to not forget everything that's happened and to inspire others.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:40
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My ultra conservative, climate change denying, Trump loving, Tory voting dad avoided all media and discussion before the election because he didn't want to have an aneurism. I have not looked at his Facebook because he's going to be going absolutely nuts. 90% of these batshit insane facebook posts could be written by him, the 10% that aren't are ones that contain the word "free" because he refuses to acnowlage it as a word in the financial sense, as apparently it's "freedom" and "free" as in "I set the dogs free so that they could chase that fox"
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Jun 13, 2017 13:41
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The DPRK posted:Have at it. lol wtf this is one of those right-wing "just so" stories about how stopping socialism is vital that goes in chain emails
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Jun 13, 2017 13:42
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Borrovan posted:ftfy The correct response is "where?" Firos posted:My 60+ y/o dad all but said he voted tory because he "couldn't bring himself to vote for Corbyn", for the most part because he thought Putin would love Corbyn winning. Not really sure what to make of that. Do people really not realise that Russia has changed immeasurably over the last 25 years? Putin's cult of personality repression-fueled oligarchy has way more in common with May and the Tories than with Corbyn.
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Jun 13, 2017 13:42
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are all y'all Tory parents actually rich
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Jun 13, 2017 13:43
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coffeetable posted:are all y'all Tory parents actually rich Yes. Also immigrants who are conveniently ignoring that fact because apparently if you are from Australia then sending them all home does not apply to you.
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spectralent posted:No worries, I can see where I fluffed up by omitting context so I kind of deserved it. Sorry, I should have assumed the positive meaning of what you said, but evidently I've had too many arguments with people in the parochial village I used to live in explaining and defending my sister, her job and the organisation's mission
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